Boycott Israel: Yay or Nay?
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boycotts are a joke
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definetly yay. BDS is successful strategy. It workedin South Africa and it is making Israeli's shiver, and really upsetting the settlers. If it had no power to affect change, israel would not be passing laws to make it illegal. If it did not worry Israeli's, there would not be such pressure from the lobby to prevent Universities, church groups and others from divesting from Israel
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It workedin South Africa
because there was that much support for it, South Africa wasn't even allowed in the Olympics -
I say Yay. Boycott Hebrew Beef Franks during the month of October.
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Why are you boycotting Israel?
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Maximus Rex wrote: »Why are you boycotting Israel?
10 characters. you would have to stop aid and weapon sales to israel if u want to make some impact -
? a boycott. Stop playing big brother to Israel when they ? or people and commit human rights violations.
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Maximus Rex wrote: »Why are you boycotting Israel?
to pressure Israel to recognize the Palestinian people's inalienable right to self-determination and fully comply with international law
to end the occupation of Gaza and West Bank
The Second class citizen status of Israeli arabs
The belligerent acts of the IDF
The violation of Palestinians Human Rights
The current ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel, and the West Bank -
Swiffness! wrote: »because there was that much support for it, South Africa wasn't even allowed in the Olympics
The Boycott Movement against South African Apartheid started in the late 1950s with small groups of activists and exiles in Britain and Sweden. It took years, if not decades, before it became a global movement and before churches, trade unions, and political parties became directly involved in the struggle. But once it was initiated, this movement helped lead eventually and inevitably to the overthrow of apartheid in South Africa. -
to pressure Israel to recognize the Palestinian people's inalienable right to self-determination and fully comply with international law
to end the occupation of Gaza and West Bank
The Second class citizen status of Israeli arabs
The belligerent acts of the IDF
The violation of Palestinians Human Rights
The current ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel, and the West Bank
Thanks for the clarification
I think yay/nay, Israel has been in turmoil for centuries so whether we boycott or not I believe these actions will continue to take place. -
to pressure Israel to recognize the Palestinian people's inalienable right to self-determination and fully comply with international law
The current ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel, and the West Bank
ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel -
ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel
you really wanna argue this point Bus? do you not know what is happening to the Bedouins in the Negev or East Jerusalem (which Israel annexe, illegaly in 67) where home demolitions and evictions happen daily, where people are forcibly removed to Gaza?
I see you haven't changed you blind support for Israeli actions -
ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel
Yep. They're even digging up Arab graves. But what I don't understand is why the Palestinian refugees haven't been granted the right to work in neighboring countries like Jordan and Lebanon? They've been refugees since 1948. -
Yep. They're even digging up Arab graves. But what I don't understand is why the Palestinian refugees haven't been granted the right to work in neighboring countries like Jordan and Lebanon? They've been refugees since 1948.
lebanon this week just passed some laws giving more rights to Palestinian refugees. Palestinians were granted citizenshp in Jordan, but many dont' want it, they want to exercise their right to return as affirmed in U.N resolution 194
another part of the probelm is that Palestinians don't want these rights; the reason for this is that they don't want this to prevent or undermine their claims to the right of return -
I'd like to but it seems rather tough. So many prominent companies and products in America seem to have business ties in some way or another with Israel. I feel like I'm being an irresponsible consumer all the time but don't even know when I'm doing it.
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shootemwon wrote: »I'd like to but it seems rather tough. So many prominent companies and products in America seem to have business ties in some way or another with Israel. I feel like I'm being an irresponsible consumer all the time but don't even know when I'm doing it.
If the first three numbers of the bar code are 729, the product was made by Israel, within the Green Line or in one of the Israeli-controlled industrial zones built illegally inside the West Bank. However, there are also products made by Israel which do not have a bar code or use another number. There are also product components that are made by Israel but do not carry the 729 bar code; among these are computers and clothing. -
I say Yay. Boycott Hebrew Beef Franks during the month of October.
LMAO This dude gets post of the day -
The Israelis did withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza. Those are autonomous regions. As a matter of fact, Hamas usurped the government in Gaza and is running that muthfucka.
Israeli Arabs have the same rights are any over Israeli citizen. They vote, have members in the Knessest, own businesses etc. The thing that Israeli Arabs don't have to do is fulfill the military requirement. That's only because they're suspect.The Second class citizen status of Israeli arabsThe belligerent acts of the IDF
Since when defending your homeland against acts of war from a hostile people considered a "belligerent act?"The violation of Palestinians Human Rights
The current ethnic cleansing taking place in Israel, and the West Bank
This is ? and isn't happening.
According the original partition plan the Palestinians were suppose to get a country. They didn't want it. Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria responded by attacking Israel and told the residents of the area to leave because they thought they would kick the Israelis ass. It didn't happen. As a matter of fact Israelis beat these muthafuckas back on three other occasions. During the Six Day War, The Israelis won East Jerusalem. Everything the Israelis got they got through the right of conquest. The Israelis gave back the Sinai Peninsula to the Egyptians, they gave the Golan Heights back to the Syrians, and withdrew from southern Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip. The Israelis were going to give the Palestinians back some land but Arafat rejected that plan and the Arabs rejected another land swap deal in 2004. All these people do is make war upon the Israelis, then have nerve enough to want the same thing they rejected 60 plus years ago. The sudden give these muthafuckas a ? thing should make them all go to neighboring countries. Whenever the Israelis defend themselves there always seem to be a problem. Name me another country in the war that would live in a perpetual state of war and tolerate a hostile people constantly making war upon them. To support the Palestinians is to support anti Semitism pure and simple. The Israelis should slaughter those ? . -
If the first three numbers of the bar code are 729, the product was made by Israel, within the Green Line or in one of the Israeli-controlled industrial zones built illegally inside the West Bank. However, there are also products made by Israel which do not have a bar code or use another number. There are also product components that are made by Israel but do not carry the 729 bar code; among these are computers and clothing.
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Maximus Rex wrote: »The Israelis did withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza. Those are autonomous regions. As a matter of fact, Hamas usurped the government in Gaza and is running that muthfucka.
Israeli Arabs have the same rights are any over Israeli citizen. They vote, have members in the Knessest, own businesses etc. The thing that Israeli Arabs don't have to do is fulfill the military requirement. That's only because they're suspect.
Since when defending your homeland against acts of war from a hostile people considered a "belligerent act?"
This is ? and isn't happening.
According the original partition plan the Palestinians were suppose to get a country. They didn't want it. Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria responded by attacking Israel and told the residents of the area to leave because they thought they would kick the Israelis ass. It didn't happen. As a matter of fact Israelis beat these muthafuckas back on three other occasions. During the Six Day War, The Israelis won East Jerusalem. Everything the Israelis got they got through the right of conquest. The Israelis gave back the Sinai Peninsula to the Egyptians, they gave the Golan Heights back to the Syrians, and withdrew from southern Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip. The Israelis were going to give the Palestinians back some land but Arafat rejected that plan and the Arabs rejected another land swap deal in 2004. All these people do is make war upon the Israelis, then have nerve enough to want the same thing they rejected 60 plus years ago. The sudden give these muthafuckas a ? thing should make them all go to neighboring countries. Whenever the Israelis defend themselves there always seem to be a problem. Name me another country in the war that would live in a perpetual state of war and tolerate a hostile people constantly making war upon them. To support the Palestinians is to support anti Semitism pure and simple. The Israelis should slaughter those ? .
The same way the ? slaughterd a million jews? Are you saying the Isrealis are the innocent ones in all this? Just a question. -
They shouldn't round them up and gas them, but give them war they've been wanting since Israel's founding. It requires two parties to make peace and it's obvious the Palestinians don't want peace. Use your superior military might to your advantage, and ? those muthfuckas until they give up or they're all dead.
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Maximus Rex wrote: »They shouldn't round them up and gas them, but give them war they've been wanting since Israel's founding. It requires two parties to make peace and it's obvious the Palestinians don't want peace. Use your superior military might to your advantage, and ? those muthfuckas until they give up or they're all dead.
Not taking sides but it has been reported that Israel always instigated attacks in the past and then Hamas/Gaza had no choice but to attack back. It has been reported as recently as several days ago that they launched a rocket into their own city of Eliat. -
WOW, look at this ? hasbara. Someone is an ardent zionist buying into the propaganda spewedMaximus Rex wrote: »The Israelis did withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza. Those are autonomous regions. As a matter of fact, Hamas usurped the government in Gaza and is running that muthfucka.
Israel is in fact occupying both the West Bank and Gaza. In the West Bank, they are still controlled by the military, still subjected to over 400 checkpoints. The military controls almost every aspect of their life. Land is being stolen daily to make room for more settlments and expanding settlements. Palestinians are denied acces to their water and lands. Villages are being destroyed, like the recent one in the Jordan Valley. To argue that the west bank is not occupied is preposterous. But I see from the rest of your post that facts will not mean anythign to you
as for Gaza. First of all, they won fair election, as admitted to by Jimmy Carter. The violence insued when Fatah tried to reclaim power undemocratically in a coup sponsered by Israel and the U.S here is a link for you to read http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804
The 1907 Hague Regulations (hague IV, Art 42) "territory is considered occupied when it is actually place under the authority of the hostile army. THe occupation applies only to the territory when such authority is establish, and in a postion to assert itsefl" Israel ceertainly is in position to assert itself as we witnessedi n the Massacre of Gaza in 08-09. Thus, under the terms of the Hague regulations, there is no question that Israel is still an occupying power as it contiues to exericise effective control: Israel control the borders and access inot and out of Gaza, including the sea and air space; Israel has all reserved (and exercised) the right to intervene militarily in Gaza, and israel continues to control Gaza's infrastructure(water and electricity, fuel, imports/exports, radio and tv frequencies)Maximus Rex wrote: »Israeli Arabs have the same rights are any over Israeli citizen. They vote, have members in the Knessest, own businesses etc. The thing that Israeli Arabs don't have to do is fulfill the military requirement. That's only because they're suspect.
Arab-Israeli's are treated as second class citizens. They hvae troubles buying land, have inferior education, are not given the same amount of money to imporve their communities. They have never onced been asked to be a part of a coalition government. Are threatened with expulsion if they dont' follow the zionist line.Maximus Rex wrote: »Since when defending your homeland against acts of war from a hostile people considered a "belligerent act?"
The recent piratical attack on teh freedom flotilla from turkey was belligerent. It was in international waters, trying to end an ILLEGAL blockade on the population of Gaza. THe masacre in Gaza, was found to be belligerent, the Goldstone report, in which the IDF confirmed Goldstones main findingsMaximus Rex wrote: »This is ? and isn't happening.
According the original partition plan the Palestinians were suppose to get a country. They didn't want it. Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria responded by attacking Israel and told the residents of the area to leave because they thought they would kick the Israelis ass. It didn't happen. As a matter of fact Israelis beat these muthafuckas back on three other occasions. During the Six Day War, The Israelis won East Jerusalem. Everything the Israelis got they got through the right of conquest. The Israelis gave back the Sinai Peninsula to the Egyptians, they gave the Golan Heights back to the Syrians, and withdrew from southern Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip. The Israelis were going to give the Palestinians back some land but Arafat rejected that plan and the Arabs rejected another land swap deal in 2004. All these people do is make war upon the Israelis, then have nerve enough to want the same thing they rejected 60 plus years ago. The sudden give these muthafuckas a ? thing should make them all go to neighboring countries. Whenever the Israelis defend themselves there always seem to be a problem. Name me another country in the war that would live in a perpetual state of war and tolerate a hostile people constantly making war upon them. To support the Palestinians is to support anti Semitism pure and simple. The Israelis should slaughter those ? .
On 22% of the land when they owned 93% of it. Yeah, fair deal. but we are not talking about Israels right ot exist behind the June 67 lines, which is supposed to be the basis of negotiations, but which Israel will not agree too
The residents were not asked to leave, that is an old zionist lie that has been refuted which Israelis dont' even bother to state anymore. THey were forcibly evicted, even before teh fighting started in 48. Israeli historians have refuted this lie for years. Smh at your ignornance. And there is not 'right of conquest'. Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem is illegal under international law and in direct contravention of U.N resolution 242.
The golan heights is still under Israeli control and will never give up.
The Israelis started every war that they have ever entered except the war of 73.
Arafat did not reject the deal, it was the Israeli's who walked away, according to Israel minister SHlomo Ben Ami who was involved in the negotiations and stated "I would have rejected teh deal if I were arafat"
To suppot the palestinians is to supports justice, to support human rights, freedom and dignity. Wow, you are an evil ? person, advocating ethnic cleansing and the massacreing of innocent people, whom want nothing more to leave on their own land and the land of their ancestors. -
well...The Israelis started every war that they have ever entered except the war of 73.
--1948: first off, we're really going to say they started the 1948 Arab-Israeli War? seems like a bit of a reach given that they were invaded;
--1956: for the Suez War, okay, you could argue that they didn't START the war, but they were attacking;
--1967: arguments for the strikes aside, they did start the Six-Day War;
--1967, redux: on the other hand, Egypt started the War Of Attrition. i presume that you are counting these conflicts as one?
--1973: it's agreed that Israeli didn't start the Yom Kippur War;
--1982: let's say Israel invaded in the 1982 Lebanon War;
--2006: i'm actually not going to claim Israel didn't start this, but to be fair, you could argue that Hezbollah started it by attacking Israel prior to the actual invading of Lebanon. i wouldn't claim Israel didn't start it because it's not like every rocket attack has officially started a war with them;
--2008: same thing as above for this "Gaza War"
so... that's 5 of 8 they started? not the best record
