Mexican Mayor, Found Dead After Kidnapping

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The Prime Minister
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MONTERREY, Mexico — The kidnapped mayor of a northern Mexican town was found dead Wednesday, extending a rash of deadly attacks on political figures in an area besieged by drug gang battles.

Santiago Mayor Edelmiro Cavazos' body was found near a waterfall outside his town, a popular weekend getaway for residents of the industrial city of Monterrey, said Nuevo Leon state attorney general Alejandro Garza y Garza.

Interior Secretary Francisco Blake Mora traveled to Monterrey and pledged that the army would begin joint patrols with police in "conflictive neighborhoods" in the area.

Police have not determined a motive in the killing, but it bore the hallmarks of drug cartels waging vicious turf battles in northeastern Mexico: Cavazos' hands were bound and his head was wrapped in tape.

Garza y Garza suggested it was a drug gang hit, saying Cavazos participated in state security meetings and was "showing his face in the fight against organized crime."

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  • freshb651
    freshb651 Members Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mexican drug lords gangsta>>>>>all other races gangsta
  • anthony7q
    anthony7q Members Posts: 782
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    It's sad that some Mexicans support the Drug Cartel killings.
  • musicology1985
    musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
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    anthony7q wrote: »
    It's sad that some Mexicans support the Drug Cartel killings.

    It may sound crazy, but a great deal of Mexicans depend on the Cartels for survival. NAFTA messed it up for a lot of rural farmers and industrial development. This is why so many Mexicans are spread out all over the 50 states now. They had to.

    Some other factors:

    Government Corruption on the local and federal level-the Calderon Government is accused of having close ties to the Sinaola Cartel, so many other Cartels are looked at as Revolutionaries.

    U.S. Intrigue-It is a known fact that many cartel members were either trained by the Mexican Military and Police or the U.S. Military. The leaders of Los Zetas and some others were trained at the School of the Americas in Fort Bragg, Georgia, from there going on to be Mexican Special Forces and now, Drug Cartel Leaders. Seems like everyone has their hand in the ? .

    Catholic Countries are notorious for Drug Smuggling-Italy, Southern France, allegedly Spain, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Nicaragua & Mexico. The Southwestern U.S. as well as Texas can easily be considered Greater Mexico. They also contribute a great deal to the U.S. economy.

    U.S. Policy-the Militarization of Mexico through the declared war in 2006 hurts civilians more than the Cartels but hey, that's always been U.S. Policy.
  • anthony7q
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    It may sound crazy, but a great deal of Mexicans depend on the Cartels for survival. NAFTA messed it up for a lot of rural farmers and industrial development. This is why so many Mexicans are spread out all over the 50 states now. They had to.

    Some other factors:

    Government Corruption on the local and federal level-the Calderon Government is accused of having close ties to the Sinaola Cartel, so many other Cartels are looked at as Revolutionaries.

    U.S. Intrigue-It is a known fact that many cartel members were either trained by the Mexican Military and Police or the U.S. Military. The leaders of Los Zetas and some others were trained at the School of the Americas in Fort Bragg, Georgia, from there going on to be Mexican Special Forces and now, Drug Cartel Leaders. Seems like everyone has their hand in the ? .

    Catholic Countries are notorious for Drug Smuggling-Italy, Southern France, allegedly Spain, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Nicaragua & Mexico. The Southwestern U.S. as well as Texas can easily be considered Greater Mexico. They also contribute a great deal to the U.S. economy.

    U.S. Policy-the Militarization of Mexico through the declared war in 2006 hurts civilians more than the Cartels but hey, that's always been U.S. Policy.

    So their country is corrupt and their solution is to flee to the US? Why don't they stay inside their own country and fight for a better government? When Hugo Chavez was booted out of office after a coup in 2002 the people rallied around Chavez and within 48 hours he returned as Venezuela's President. IMO most Mexicans and Drug Cartels only care about getting fast money through drugs. Human life means Nada to those people.
  • musicology1985
    musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
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    anthony7q wrote: »
    So their country is corrupt and their solution is to flee to the US? Why don't they stay inside their own country and fight for a better government? When Hugo Chavez was booted out of office after a coup in 2002 the people rallied around Chavez and within 48 hours he returned as Venezuela's President. IMO most Mexicans and Drug Cartels only care about getting fast money through drugs. Human life means Nada to those people.

    What do you mean why don't they stay? Most of them have. The ones who come here do so to work. The ? criminals are a small percentage of the immigrants.

    The Mexican people did all of what you advised in 2006 in support of Andrés Manuel López Obrador of southern Mexico, but lost. Trying to take over Mexico is a lot harder than Venezuela. I'm not condoning the Cartels, but Venezuela is only comparable to Cuba when it comes to Latin American politics. Mexico's political climate is more akin to Colombia's. It's a complex issue because everyone involved, including the U.S.
  • anthony7q
    anthony7q Members Posts: 782
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    anthony7q wrote: »
    So their country is corrupt and their solution is to flee to the US? Why don't they stay inside their own country and fight for a better government? When Hugo Chavez was booted out of office after a coup in 2002 the people rallied around Chavez and within 48 hours he returned as Venezuela's President. IMO most Mexicans and Drug Cartels only care about getting fast money through drugs. Human life means Nada to those people.

    What do you mean why don't they stay? Most of them have. The ones who come here do so to work. The ? criminals are a small percentage of the immigrants.

    The Mexican people did all of what you advised in 2006 in support of Andrés Manuel López Obrador of southern Mexico, but lost. Trying to take over Mexico is a lot harder than Venezuela. I'm not condoning the Cartels, but Venezuela is only comparable to Cuba when it comes to Latin American politics. Mexico's political climate is more akin to Colombia's. It's a complex issue because everyone involved, including the U.S.

    Try harder and come to the US legally like everybody else.
  • musicology1985
    musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
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    anthony7q wrote: »

    Try harder and come to the US legally like everybody else.

    This is easier said than done. The white man was/is an illegal immigrant. Nobody cares about that anymore though.

    There is also considerable illegal immigrants from China and India. Until the U.S. helps to stabilize Mexico instead of Militarize it, we will have these border problems.
  • Reina B
    Reina B Members Posts: 2,190 ✭✭
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    I don't know? Really what can the Mexican Government do?

    As hard as it may be they might need to compromise or have a round table discussion with the Cartel.
  • ckfree
    ckfree Members Posts: 9,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -- Accused drug traffickers and assassins, shackled and bruised from beatings, are regularly paraded before the news media to show that Mexico is winning its drug war. Once the television lights dim, however, about three-quarters of them are let go.

    Records obtained by the Associated Press showed that the government arrested 226,667 drug suspects between December 2006 and September 2009. Less than a quarter of that number were charged. Only 15 percent saw a verdict, and the Mexican attorney general's office won't say how many of those were guilty.

    Cases built by prosecutors and police under pressure to make swift captures unravel from lack of evidence. Innocent people are tortured into confessing. The guilty are set free, only to be hauled in again for other crimes. AP"


    http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/2554896,CST-NWS-mexico01.article

    Felipe Calderon is powerless to stem American demand. These cartels are just killing and bribing their way to power. Several months back the mayor of Cancun was arrested for drug trafficking, money laundering, organized crime and all that other good stuff smh

    it's pretty clear everybody is losing this so called 'war on drugs' and as long as the demand persists, violent crime will follow drug trafficking. So seeing that the United States has the biggest appetite for illicit drugs in the whole world. Over some 30 million people and counting using illicit drugs or abusing prescription drugs here, simple logic says there is only one solution left

    help us help you

    legalize!
  • anthony7q
    anthony7q Members Posts: 782
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    anthony7q wrote: »

    This is easier said than done. The white man was/is an illegal immigrant. Nobody cares about that anymore though.

    There is also considerable illegal immigrants from China and India. Until the U.S. helps to stabilize Mexico instead of Militarize it, we will have these border problems.

    That's the problem. The US shouldn't stabilize or Militarize it. They should just let Mexico handle their own business. The Mexicans are Nationalist. They only care about their people and their people only. They're not just coming into the US to get jobs. They're coming to get their land back.
  • musicology1985
    musicology1985 Members Posts: 4,632 ✭✭
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    @anthony7q

    That's the problem. The US shouldn't stabilize or Militarize it.

    It's too late. First of all, the U.S., Canada and Mexican Government have already passed NAFTA. Second of all, the U.S. and Mexican Governments have already sponsored a Militarization strategy. On top of that, the U.S. depends on Mexico for multiple imports, mainly Manuel & lower wage labor in the U.S., outsourcing in Mexico, fruits, processed foods and narcotics. On the legal end, you're looking at 44% of Mexico's exports, which is more than it has with any other nation. The U.S. needs Mexico for multiple reasons.

    They should just let Mexico handle their own business.

    Not gonna happen. The U.S's main foreign policy role is regulating what goes on in this hemisphere and beyond. They are the world's police.

    The Mexicans are Nationalist. They only care about their people and their people only.

    In most cases this is true, but not all. They contribute a great deal to the U.S., whether people want to admit it or not. They just prefer to stick to themselves for the most part and I see nothing wrong with that.

    They're not just coming into the US to get jobs. They're coming to get their land back.

    If it's meant to be than it's meant to be. No one could beat the white man in war, so what the world's indigenous people decided to do is outlast him. Seems to be working. By 2020 you will be witnessing population wise, the Mexican States of America. As us Moors would call it, North/Norte' Amexem. Hola.