Ron Paul: Left and the Right Demagogue Mosque, Islam

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bornnraisedoffCMR
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edited August 2010 in The Social Lounge
LAKE JACKSON, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Congressman Ron Paul today released the following statement on the controversy concerning the construction of an Islamic Center and Mosque in New York City:

“There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to ? us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?”

“Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery?

“It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.”

“The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque.

“Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.”

“Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom?

“In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

“They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers from in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice.

“The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems.

“The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11.

“Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.

“This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.

“There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to ? us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred?

“If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable.

“The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer.

“Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.

“Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam--the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

“It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.

“The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservative’s aggressive wars.

“The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.

“This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

“We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended.

“Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.”

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100820005843&newsLang=en

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  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
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    Ron Paul is that ? .
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    did u for real post a ron paul article in 2010?
  • glowy
    glowy Members Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭
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    Ron Paul hit the nail on the head.
  • theillestrator
    theillestrator Members Posts: 1,085 ✭✭
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    I wish people had taken Ron Paul seriously during the 2007-08 campaign season. Not a big fan of politicians, but I do like Ron Paul.
  • BethlehemBill
    BethlehemBill Members Posts: 140
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    ron paul is pretty out there on some issues, but he got this one right. especially this one: “We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended."

    obama knows this more than anyone, he can speak out about the freedom of religion, but then the next morning retract his statement because its a controversial issue and people are sensitive.
  • dirty pigeon
    dirty pigeon Members Posts: 33
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    Ron Paul is that ? .


    Ron Paul 2012? lol
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Let's not mince words: Ron Paul killed that ? and aired out those fake-ass "libertarians" that want to use the Gov't they whine about to oppress minority rights.
  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
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    did u for real post a ron paul article in 2010?
    sonned into oblivion

    THREADSTARTER ADMITS TO SUCKING ? EVERY DAY
  • white people like me
    white people like me Members Posts: 171
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    I'm not a libertarian at all but what Ron Paul said in this piece was beautiful no ? .
  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
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    What was the point of this thread though? Just to let us know Ron Paul's position on the mosque?

    1. Couldn't we all have guess it?
    2. Are we going to do this for every member of congress?

    We got enough threads on the subject by now.
  • Focal Point
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    Cot Damyum nice drop, he kicked some real truth there, wish ? on Fox and MSN and such had of talked to him
  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
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    c1up wrote: »
    Cot Damyum nice drop, he kicked some real truth there, wish ? on Fox and MSN and such had of talked to him

    He didn't say anything new lol. In fact, I highly doubt this thread would have even been made if Ron Paul wasn't worshiped across the country by virgins at state universities who just finished their freshman year.
  • Focal Point
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    shootemwon wrote: »
    He didn't say anything new lol. In fact, I highly doubt this thread would have even been made if Ron Paul wasn't worshiped across the country by virgins at state universities who just finished their freshman year.

    I'm saying it in the sense of him getting to a broader audience, you got a lot folks out here who apply terrorist to Islam as a whole and perhaps a guy who is considered conservative could perhaps make some sense to those without any and hell the NJ Gov recently said something similar about politicians using this as a platform to leap from
  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
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    c1up wrote: »

    I'm saying it in the sense of him getting to a broader audience, you got a lot folks out here who apply terrorist to Islam as a whole and perhaps a guy who is considered conservative could perhaps make some sense to those without any and hell the NJ Gov recently said something similar about politicians using this as a platform to leap from

    Ron Paul is a libertarian, so the right loves all his "defend the constitution" talk until it comes to something like this, still it was obvious what side Ron Paul would come out on for this issue. Chris Christie showed more courage than most, but I was still disappointed that he seemed to ultimately be using the issue to bash Obama more than anything else. I see your point about showcasing some guys who aren't progressives defending religious freedom though. Nonetheless, he's still not saying anything new.
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    "replace the mosque with purestrain GOLD!"
    ---ron paul