Will black people be shut out of the Nobel prizes yet again?
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allreasoned_out
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It's that time of year again. Starting next week Nobel prizes will be awarded in Medicine, Chemistry, etc.
Blacks have only won one Nobel Prize that wasn't in Peace or Literature. And that was in 1979. I believe this is far less than any other race, with the possible exception of indigenous peoples.
I have no reason to believe that the committees that award the prizes are discriminating.
The whole thing is humiliating. We should be dominating this, or at least getting our proportional share.
Blacks have only won one Nobel Prize that wasn't in Peace or Literature. And that was in 1979. I believe this is far less than any other race, with the possible exception of indigenous peoples.
I have no reason to believe that the committees that award the prizes are discriminating.
The whole thing is humiliating. We should be dominating this, or at least getting our proportional share.
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Nobody has any thoughts on this?
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why don't you go win one then? Otherwise ? .
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why don't you go win one then? Otherwise ? .
At least I care, which is more than I can say about you and many others on here. BTW, Nobel Prizes aren't available in every field. -
? ? if u want one so bad why dont u win one
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allreasoned_out wrote: »At least I care, which is more than I can say about you and many others on here. BTW, Nobel Prizes aren't available in every field.
but the ones available in literature and peace are worthless to you right? -
I see the game hahabut the ones available in literature and peace are worthless to you right? -
at least the prez won one last year...now after that...who cares *ye shrug*
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I'm not sure people grasp what it takes or how distinguishing it is to win one. Some people only recognize the Nobel Peace Prize because of Dr. MLK... most do not know they come for mathematics and economics etc..
It is sad that more blacks are not recognized..
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ether-i-am wrote: »do you mean black people as a group?
Yes. No blacks at all have won since 1979, which was the only time a black won.but the ones available in literature and peace are worthless to you right?
The Peace one is ridiculous. It means nothing now. A good case can be made that the Literature one has become politicalized. Anyway, we can do more than write well. -
I'm not sure people grasp what it takes or how distinguishing it is to win one. Some people only recognize the Nobel Peace Prize because of Dr. MLK... most do not know they come for mathematics and economics etc..
It is sad that more blacks are not recognized..
smh
it's sad that more blacks aren't achieving at that level. -
allreasoned_out wrote: »it's sad that more blacks aren't achieving at that level.
My point is.. i'm sure there are some achieving... but you have to be nominated if i'm not mistaken. If no one moves to nominate you.. that means you are not being recognized. -
ether-i-am wrote: »Jay-z is nominated for the bp3.
What? ? off that BP3 is so overrated -
My point is.. i'm sure there are some achieving... but you have to be nominated if i'm not mistaken. If no one moves to nominate you.. that means you are not being recognized.
I don't think that is how it works. I think you have to be nominated for Peace, but not the other prizes. -
A white man has won the Nobel Prize in Medicine.
UK pioneer of in vitro fertilization wins medicine honour.
By Alison Abbott
Very few scientists can say that four million people are alive because of their work, but Robert Edwards is one of those few. His development of the technique at the heart of that claim — in vitro fertilization (IVF) — has won him this year's Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
To make IVF possible, Edwards had to solve numerous problems in basic biology — some of which opened the door for embryonic stem-cell research — while facing bitter opposition from churches, politicians and even some of his eminent colleagues at the University of Cambridge, UK. An outgoing yet thoughtful personality who eagerly engaged in public debate, Edwards was hurt by charges that his work was unethical.
But thanks also to his collaboration with another outsider, Patrick Steptoe, an obstetrician at the Oldham and District General Hospital, the world's first test-tube baby, Louise Brown, was born in 1978. Within five years, 150 test-tube babies had been born worldwide. Since then, IVF has become mainstream, and Edwards and Steptoe have been lauded for helping give life to millions. Had he not died in 1988, Steptoe would probably have shared the prize...
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101004/full/467641a.html -
? ain't checkin' for science.
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There are much more important problems that are deep rooted and plague the black community than not being nominated for a Nobel Prize. I'm shocked the OP left this out (as you constantly make these bookish, brainy threads). Pretty sure if these problems (especially educational) were fixed I don't think you would've made this thread. I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just sayin'.......
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they dont award Nobel prizes for rapping, playing basketball, or selling ?
OH YEAH, WENT THERE -
KTULU IS BACK wrote: »they dont award Nobel prizes for rapping, playing basketball, or selling ?
OH YEAH, WENT THERE
u would probably ? yourself if the internet ever suffered a blackout. -
but the ones available in literature and peace are worthless to you right?
this is what i was going to say, so instead im dropping this.
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KTULU IS BACK wrote: »they dont award Nobel prizes for rapping, playing basketball, or selling ?
OH YEAH, WENT THERE
No you di'int
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allreasoned_out wrote: »It's that time of year again. Starting next week Nobel prizes will be awarded in Medicine, Chemistry, etc.
Blacks have only won one Nobel Prize that wasn't in Peace or Literature. And that was in 1979. I believe this is far less than any other race, with the possible exception of indigenous peoples.
I have no reason to believe that the committees that award the prizes are discriminating.
The whole thing is humiliating. We should be dominating this, or at least getting our proportional share.
Who chooses who wins the Nobel prizes? -
There are much more important problems that are deep rooted and plague the black community than not being nominated for a Nobel Prize. I'm shocked the OP left this out (as you constantly make these bookish, brainy threads). Pretty sure if these problems (especially educational) were fixed I don't think you would've made this thread. I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just sayin'.......
I agree with this. But arguably part of the problem is what is considered important; for example, is it more important that black people do well in sports or in fields like Medicine or Chemistry? There are plenty of people out there subtly reinforcing the idea that sports and entertainment are what's important. I'm trying to counter that. There are also some delusional folks out there that will tell you blacks are doing just fine in these areas. I also want to tell this group that they're wrong. -
You act like its owed to a black person out of some idea of fairness instead of based on merit. Do this. Take the winners of past years and then take an achievement from a black person that you think is significantly better and then we can have a discussion on whether blacks are discriminated against or simply do not do anything to warrant it at least compared to other races. Until then, you have no argument except your observation that blacks are underrepresented and that says nothing since it could be that they are not meeting the standards and also they are underrepresented in chemistry/math/physics to begin with. More black guys are worried about being a rapper more than being a chemist and this is the consequence of that. Fix the source of the problem.
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allreasoned_out wrote: »I agree with this. But arguably part of the problem is what is considered important; for example, is it more important that black people do well in sports or in fields like Medicine or Chemistry? There are plenty of people out there subtly reinforcing the idea that sports and entertainment are what's important. I'm trying to counter that. There are also some delusional folks out there that will tell you blacks are doing just fine in these areas. I also want to tell this group that they're wrong.
Please divulge the significant actions that you commit yourself to. -
allreasoned_out wrote: »I agree with this. But arguably part of the problem is what is considered important; for example, is it more important that black people do well in sports or in fields like Medicine or Chemistry? There are plenty of people out there subtly reinforcing the idea that sports and entertainment are what's important. I'm trying to counter that. There are also some delusional folks out there that will tell you blacks are doing just fine in these areas. I also want to tell this group that they're wrong.
Let me ask you a question. Do you think it is much harder for blacks to obtain the same quality of education as whites?
