Who should be higher on a GOAT list, Jay Z or Ghostface?

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Mvpbrodie93
Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
edited October 2010 in The Face Off Forum
Both are generally in top tens , and 20's of greatest rappers of all time, who deserves to be higher?

Both have classics

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  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
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    Catologue-
    Originality-
    Concepts-
    Versatility-
    Vocabulary-
    Substance-
    Flow-
    Freestyle-
    Vocal Presence-
    Live Performance-
    Poetic Value-

    Industry Impact-

    Longevity-
    Lyrics-
    Battle Skills-
    Songwriting -
  • CJ
    CJ Members Posts: 15,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
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    Jay

    10 characters
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
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    ghoSt has the edge in catalogue
  • birdcall89
    birdcall89 Members Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭
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    ghost is higher imo.
  • P. Town
    P. Town Members Posts: 27,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
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    Jay-z of course
  • Lil Face
    Lil Face Members Posts: 242
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    Catologue- Jay-z
    Originality- Ghostface(Jay stole alot of Bigs Rhymes)
    Concepts- Ghostface
    Versatility- Jay-z
    Vocabulary- Jay-z
    Substance-Ghostface(Jay only rap about that rich ? ? )
    Flow- Jay-z
    Freestyle- Jay-z he dont write none of his rhymes
    Vocal Presence- Jay-z
    Live Performance- never been to neither one of their concerts
    Poetic Value- Ghostface

    Industry Impact- WU-Tang as a whole will be remembered for generations

    Longevity- Jay-z
    Lyrics- Jay-z
    Battle Skills- Jay-z
    Songwriting - Ghostface

    Jay-z- 9 Ghostface - 6
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ghostface is way higher on my GOAT list.

    Catologue- Ghostface, not even close
    Originality- Ghostface, "How much of Biggie's rhymes is going to come out your fat lips."
    Concepts- Ghostface
    Versatility- Ghostface, he released an R&B album in Ghostdini
    Vocabulary- Ghostface
    Substance- Ghostface
    Flow- JayZ
    Freestyle- Idk, probably JayZ
    Vocal Presence- Ghostface
    Live Performance- Ghostface, Jay can't perform
    Poetic Value- Ghostface

    Industry Impact- Ghostface, because of Wu Tang... he also fathered a lot of people's styles

    Longevity- Ghostface, his pen game didn't fall off a cliff like Jay's did
    Lyrics- Ghostface
    Battle Skills- Idk
    Songwriting - Ghostface by far

    Ghostface - 13 JayZ- 2 Undecided- 1
  • Migz.
    Migz. Members Posts: 590
    edited October 2010
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    Jay Z without a doubt...Ghost couldn't compare to Jay on Jay's worst day.
  • Smo-King Locs
    Smo-King Locs Banned Users Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
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    wtf r u talkin about ??????????


    Pac
    Jay
    Big

    "he's been compared 2 big n pac already"....
    they compare ppl 2 him now...

    Hov done passed rakim nas kane kr1, and all them guys he done passed big done passed pac...
  • Tommy Billfiger
    Tommy Billfiger Banned Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭
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    Catologue-Jigga
    Originality-Ghost
    Concepts-Ghost
    Versatility-Ghost
    Vocabulary-Definitely Ghost
    Substance-Ghost
    Flow-Jigga
    Freestyle-Jigga
    Vocal Presence-Jigga
    Live Performance-Ghost
    Poetic Value-Ghost

    Industry Impact-Jigga

    Longevity-Ghost
    Lyrics-Tie
    Battle Skills-Jigga
    Songwriting -Ghost


    These 2 of my favorite rappers of all time Ghost dont get his due respect but homie is nice always has been

    Apollo kids december 14th
  • SOWETO
    SOWETO Members Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭✭
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    you hear this ? ? what jigga got on this, really?
  • great l
    great l Members Posts: 393
    edited October 2010
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    Jay and it's not even close. GF is one of the most overrated cats on the IC.
  • drsnappple
    drsnappple Members Posts: 185 ✭✭
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    Well who killed this beat better Jay or Ghost?

    The answer is Ghost.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    wtf r u talkin about ??????????


    Pac
    Jay
    Big

    "he's been compared 2 big n pac already"....
    they compare ppl 2 him now...

    Hov done passed rakim nas kane kr1, and all them guys he done passed big done passed pac...

    Jay z isn't better then nas...
  • Knightryder
    Knightryder Members Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    lol @ the ? who said gostface over jayz for longevity, even ghost would smack u for saying some dumb ? like that
  • jonlakadeadmic
    jonlakadeadmic Members Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2010
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    jay-z.................
  • isayas
    isayas Confirm Email Posts: 2,972 ✭✭
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    LOL@ Jay Z being better than Nas.
  • jonlakadeadmic
    jonlakadeadmic Members Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭
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    isayas wrote: »
    LOL@ Jay Z being better than Nas.

    well thats opinion, and to me, he is
  • Lil Face
    Lil Face Members Posts: 242
    edited October 2010
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    Jay way better than Nas that ? not even close
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    Lil Face wrote: »
    Jay way better than Nas that ? not even close

    Jay z is my dude but nas is better lyrically, better storyteller, better catalogue, vocabualry, substance and ether>>>>>>>>>>>> takeover
  • coolc31
    coolc31 Members Posts: 517 ✭✭✭
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    I can't be mad at anyone's opinion, but seriously comparing Jay to Ghostface is like comparing Dominique to Jordan. Dominique was ill in his time, but Jordan had all the titles, awards, & love from the fans. You can't front on that. I understand if you like Ghostface better than Jay, but you have to be objective when you're talking about G.O.A.T. Ghost's stats (i.e. accomplishments) don't add up. This is just my opinion though. It's not the gospel.
  • TheFix
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    Ghost is dope, but on the cool, he ain't even on Jay's level...
  • TheFix
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    coolc31 wrote: »
    I can't be mad at anyone's opinion, but seriously comparing Jay to Ghostface is like comparing Dominique to Jordan. Dominique was ill in his time, but Jordan had all the titles, awards, & love from the fans. You can't front on that. I understand if you like Ghostface better than Jay, but you have to be objective when you're talking about G.O.A.T. Ghost's stats (i.e. accomplishments) don't add up. This is just my opinion though. It's not the gospel.

    Na homie, that ? is gospel what you mean, accomplishments(classics, sales, advancement of culture) tell the story better than anything you could say would.