makaveli vs nas

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makaveli3440
makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
edited November 2010 in The Face Off Forum
i say pac because of his syllable usage and rhyme patterns and his albums are clearly better
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  • Aztec_Kang
    Aztec_Kang Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭
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    i think if you're gonna compare them the only way it's fair is if you just compare nas work up until 96.

    i don't compare pac to artists that have had 14 more years to build a legacy than he did.

    that's why fools trying to compare pac to kanye and ? don't make sense to me. you gotta compare him to people from his era imo.
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    Aztec_Kang wrote: »
    i think if you're gonna compare them the only way it's fair is if you just compare nas work up until 96.

    i don't compare pac to artists that have had 14 more years to build a legacy than he did.

    that's why fools trying to compare pac to kanye and ? don't make sense to me. you gotta compare him to people from his era imo.
    i respectfuly disagree pac had enougn unreleased songs to make 30 or 40 more albums the makaveli bootlegs that came out after he passed are my proof of that.
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    Nasty Nas Escobar
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    Nobody touching Nas...
  • Ishi
    Ishi Members Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i say pac because of his syllable usage and rhyme patterns and his albums are clearly better

    You catching Ls wit this post.... Have you even listened to Nas?
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    Ishi wrote: »
    You catching Ls wit this post.... Have you even listened to Nas?

    well u want to debate that we can.
  • Ishi
    Ishi Members Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    well u want to debate that we can.

    In your opinion what is Tupacs strongest album? Me against the world, 7 day theory?
  • CJ
    CJ Members Posts: 15,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    nas

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  • BobOblah
    BobOblah Members Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i say pac because of his syllable usage and rhyme patterns and his albums are clearly better

    what? that would be the argument for Nas>>
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
    edited November 2010
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    Ishi wrote: »
    In your opinion what is Tupacs strongest album? Me against the world, 7 day theory?

    i like all his albums but killumanti the 7 day theory was his best album to me lyrically.
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    BobOblah wrote: »
    what? that would be the argument for Nas>>

    if u know anything about rhyme patterns u would know pac had the most complex rhyme scheme ever he used assonace in his rhymes the broken rhyme technique end rhyme etc.
  • Aztec_Kang
    Aztec_Kang Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭
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    if u know anything about rhyme patterns u would know pac had the most complex rhyme scheme ever he used assonace in his rhymes the broken rhyme technique end rhyme etc.

    can you post examples of what you're calling the broken rhyme technique. that sounds interesting.

    i personally give Pac the edge as an overall artist over nas. but i give nas the slight lyrical edge over pac.

    if pac had lived i think he very well may have gave nas a run for his money as a lyricist.
  • Ishi
    Ishi Members Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i like all his albums but killumanti the 7 day theory was his best album to me lyrically.

    Good choice please do find a verse on that album better verses off the Illmatic from songs like life's a ? or NYC state of mind or Memory lane take your time ill wait...


    I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing
    The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in
    My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it
    One quarter through life some ? -ly like thing created
    Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some
    Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from
    my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain
    Don't go against the grain simple and plain
    When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard
    Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards
    Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash
    and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash
    Now it's all about cash in abundance, ? I used to run with
    is rich or doin years in the hundreds
    I switched my motto -- instead of sayin ? tomorrow
    That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto
    Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks
    I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back
    Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric
    Pack a four-matic that ? your whole cabbage
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    Aztec_Kang wrote: »
    can you post examples of what you're calling the broken rhyme technique. that sounds interesting.

    i personally give Pac the edge as an overall artist over nas. but i give nas the slight lyrical edge over pac.

    if pac had lived i think he very well may have gave nas a run for his money as a lyricist.
    ok here is what it means. But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
    as a ? drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
    eminem rhyme ameri and experi out of the words america and erperiment
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    Ishi wrote: »
    Good choice please do find a verse on that album better verses off the Illmatic from songs like life's a ? or NYC state of mind or Memory lane take your time ill wait...


    I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing
    The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in
    My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it
    One quarter through life some ? -ly like thing created
    Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some
    Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from
    my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain
    Don't go against the grain simple and plain
    When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard
    Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards
    Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash
    and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash
    Now it's all about cash in abundance, ? I used to run with
    is rich or doin years in the hundreds
    I switched my motto -- instead of sayin ? tomorrow
    That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto
    Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks
    I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back
    Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric
    Pack a four-matic that ? your whole cabbage

    Code 3. Attack formation. Pull out your pistols.
    Keep an eye out for the devils cuz they itchin to get you.
    Mercy to this madman screamin kamikaze in tongue.
    Automatic gunfire makin all my enemies run.
    Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin.
    Indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream.
    Dope got me hatin fiends. Scheam wit my team, just a chosen few.
    My foes victim of explosives. Come closer. Exhale the fumes.
    We got memories fadin fast. A slave for cash.
    Accelerate, mash, blast, then dash.
    Don't look now. How you like it, raw.
    ? ain't ready for the wrath of the outlaws. Never surrender.
    Death before dishonor stay free. I'm thugged out.
    ? the world cuz this is how they made me.
    Scarred but still breathin.
    Believe in me and you could see the victory.
    A warrior with jewels. Can you picture me?
    Life of and outlaw. he used the assonace to come up with multi's and he used interal rhyme in this verse
  • Aztec_Kang
    Aztec_Kang Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭
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    ok here is what it means. But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
    as a ? drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
    eminem rhyme ameri and experi out of the words america and erperiment

    i would refer to that as vertical rythm. it's a poetic tehnique.

    america and experiment have the same amount of syllables too but i would still call it vertical rythm.
  • gee757
    gee757 Members Posts: 26,374
    edited November 2010
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    makaveli da DON!

    ^ nas cant make no trak like that but i still like nasir lolllll..
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    Aztec_Kang wrote: »
    i would refer to that as vertical rythm. it's a poetic tehnique.

    america and experiment have the same amount of syllables too but i would still call it vertical rythm.

    eminem does that alot he rhymes words that should'nt rhyme he will bend words use the broken rhyme technique rhyme vowel sounds all that ? that is why he has so many multi's in lines. he finds ways to rhyme words that should'nt rhyme.
  • Aztec_Kang
    Aztec_Kang Members Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭✭
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    eminem does that alot he rhymes words that should'nt rhyme he will bend words use the broken rhyme technique rhyme vowel sounds all that ? that is why he has so many multi's in lines.

    i understand what you're saying but broken rhyme technique sounds like something you named that technique. in poetry its called vertical rythm.
  • makaveli3440
    makaveli3440 Members Posts: 144
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    i did'nt name it that here is where i got it from. http://ladykathleen.com/type-of-rhymes/
  • Ishi
    Ishi Members Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    Code 3. Attack formation. Pull out your pistols.
    Keep an eye out for the devils cuz they itchin to get you.
    Mercy to this madman screamin kamikaze in tongue.
    Automatic gunfire makin all my enemies run.
    Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin.
    Indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream.
    Dope got me hatin fiends. Scheam wit my team, just a chosen few.
    My foes victim of explosives. Come closer. Exhale the fumes.
    We got memories fadin fast. A slave for cash.
    Accelerate, mash, blast, then dash.
    Don't look now. How you like it, raw.
    ? ain't ready for the wrath of the outlaws. Never surrender.
    Death before dishonor stay free. I'm thugged out.
    ? the world cuz this is how they made me.
    Scarred but still breathin.
    Believe in me and you could see the victory.
    A warrior with jewels. Can you picture me?
    Life of and outlaw. he used the assonace to come up with multi's and he used interal rhyme in this verse

    Lol you really like Pac to cloud your judgment of picking that verse or Nas verse
  • Ishi
    Ishi Members Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    gee757 wrote: »
    makaveli da DON!

    ^ nas cant make no trak like that but i still like nasir lolllll..

    Hate me now > Against all odds
  • thesynthesis
    thesynthesis Members Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭
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    ? just do a poll make life easier

    pac won every damn poll on here

    nas is a great lyricist, the greatest

    however in terms of making songs he is below pac, and as a all round artist
  • thesynthesis
    thesynthesis Members Posts: 9,230 ✭✭✭
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    Ishi wrote: »
    Hate me now > Against all odds

    DEAD

    what is ironic is Hate Me Now is the song which ? labeled Nas as a sell out, he was dressed like Pac head to toe and was acting out pacs makaveli concept

    also Against All Odds made Nas cry, that was said from his own mouth

    pac> nas
  • xRapHeadx
    xRapHeadx Members Posts: 155
    edited November 2010
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