The Seven Cardinal Sins

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BiblicalAtheist
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edited November 2010 in R & R (Religion and Race)
Did the seven cardinal sins enter the world in any particular order? Does one have to occur before another?

Sins: Pride, gluttony, anger, sloth, greed, ? and envy
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    I think envy came first.
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  • Chike
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    They're all characteristics of human emotion. There was no particular order they came about. But I know Pride is the most destructive, because it takes no outside materials to manifest.
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  • ThaChozenWun
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    Envy certainly would not have been able to come first, the rest I am thinking about for a lil bit.
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  • Chike
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    Yea you would have to be prideful first before becoming envious I would think. so maybe some of them have an order....
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    Chike wrote: »
    They're all characteristics of human emotion.

    There was no particular order they came about. But I know Pride is the most destructive, because it takes no outside materials to manifest.

    They're part of human something that's for sure lol

    Idk, from my perspective in order to have pride, you'd have to have the other sins. If I had none of those other things, what could I be 'prideful' about?
    ThaChozenWun wrote: »
    Envy certainly would not have been able to come first, the rest I am thinking about for a lil bit.

    I totally think envy came first. We wanted something we didn't/couldn't have. We wanted that fruits goodness damn it! We even chose it over the tree of life, which we were allowed to eat from.
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  • Chike
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    They're part of human something that's for sure lol

    Idk, from my perspective in order to have pride, you'd have to have the other sins. If I had none of those other things, what could I be 'prideful' about?



    I totally think envy came first. We wanted something we didn't/couldn't have. We wanted that fruits goodness damn it! We even chose it over the tree of life, which we were allowed to eat from.



    That wouldn't be envious, that would be ? . Envious requires someone else to have something you can't or will never have.
    PRide is basically. I'm better than you, nananana booboo. Basically nay rap song you hear on the radio would be the perfect example of pride. You don't really need anything other than a big head. But having things does help boost that ego.
    Choosing to eat from the fruit in the adam/eve story would pretty much be ? and curiosity and their lack of will to resist those feelings. I don't think Eve ate the apple out of envy, because there was noone else able to eat the fruit either. Basically, Adam and Eve were void of those deadly sins, until they ate the apple. Then those sins were brought to their awareness, and they were then able to be influenced by those sins.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    Chike wrote: »
    That wouldn't be envious, that would be ? . Envious requires someone else to have something you can't or will never have.
    PRide is basically. I'm better than you, nananana booboo. Basically nay rap song you hear on the radio would be the perfect example of pride. You don't really need anything other than a big head. But having things does help boost that ego.
    Choosing to eat from the fruit in the adam/eve story would pretty much be ? and curiosity and their lack of will to resist those feelings. I don't think Eve ate the apple out of envy, because there was noone else able to eat the fruit either. Basically, Adam and Eve were void of those deadly sins, until they ate the apple. Then those sins were brought to their awareness, and they were then able to be influenced by those sins.

    We could of been envious of ? , we would become like gods by having what they had(knowledge of good and evil). The gods had to have had the 'fruit' of that tree. The 'fruits' were the knowledge, the knowledge of good and evil. Then we became lustful for that knowledge, and took the fruit.
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  • ThaChozenWun
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    I totally think envy came first. We wanted something we didn't/couldn't have. We wanted that fruits goodness damn it! We even chose it over the tree of life, which we were allowed to eat from.

    I think we lusted for the forbidden fruit, we weren't envious of it
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    ThaChozenWun wrote: »
    I think we lusted for the forbidden fruit, we weren't envious of it

    Yeah, we were envy the gods had knowledge of good and evil, and we didn't. Ahh maybe they came into together? Envy for the knowledge, and the ? for the 'fruit'. Could ? and envy be tided together?
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  • Chike
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    We could of been envious of ? , we would become like gods by having what they had(knowledge of good and evil). The gods had to have had the 'fruit' of that tree. The 'fruits' were the knowledge, the knowledge of good and evil. Then we became lustful for that knowledge, and took the fruit.



    True, but I dont think it mentions that in the story, about Eve or Adam being envious, does it? It's more of a "I'm not listening to ? anymore" type attitude if I remember, just for that short moment after Eve was manipulated by the serpent. If anything, they could have experienced pride for that moment, maybe envy could have been a little in there somewhere if so.


    Come to think of it, I think almost all of the deadly sins might have played a part in that whole scenario.


    Pride; "? it, I'm not listening to ? anymore, I can do whatever I want."
    Gluttony; "I have a whole garden, but I just have to have more, I have to have that tree."
    Anger; (I don't think anger played a part in this, but if so, it could have been like-) "? lied to me? wtf!"
    Sloth: (again, doesn't seem to play a role unless-) "I don't feel like going over to that other tree, this forbidden tree is closer anyways" LOL
    Greed; again... same as gluttony- "Even though I have this whole garden... I want that forbidden tree!"
    Envy: (you could be right) "Why does ? have all the powers, he just doesnt want us to have any fun!, I'm eating the fruit!"
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    Chike wrote: »
    True, but I dont think it mentions that in the story, about Eve or Adam being envious, does it? It's more of a "I'm not listening to ? anymore" type attitude if I remember, just for that short moment after Eve was manipulated by the serpent. If anything, they could have experienced pride for that moment, maybe envy could have been a little in there somewhere if so.


    Come to think of it, I think almost all of the deadly sins might have played a part in that whole scenario.


    Pride; "? it, I'm not listening to ? anymore, I can do whatever I want."
    Gluttony; "I have a whole garden, but I just have to have more, I have to have that tree."
    Anger; (I don't think anger played a part in this, but if so, it could have been like-) "? lied to me? wtf!"
    Sloth: (again, doesn't seem to play a role unless-) "I don't feel like going over to that other tree, this forbidden tree is closer anyways" LOL
    Greed; again... same as gluttony- "Even though I have this whole garden... I want that forbidden tree!"
    Envy: (you could be right) "Why does ? have all the powers, he just doesnt want us to have any fun!, I'm eating the fruit!"

    Lol nice break down
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