Jesus saved you?

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BiblicalAtheist
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edited November 2010 in R & R (Religion and Race)
Thread is for the "believers", but all are welcome to throw in their ideas and opinions....

What has Jesus saved you from? You believe in him, live for etc, what are you saved from?
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  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited November 2010
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    I got "saved" again when I was 12... I was told and ultimately believed that I was saved at that time from my past sins and from the devils temptation.

    Two years later I learned I wasn't saved from ? and women, and so began my journey and my realization that I was only ? not saved.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    ThaChozenWun wrote: »
    I got "saved" again when I was 12... I was told and ultimately believed that I was saved at that time from my past sins and from the devils temptation.

    Two years later I learned I wasn't saved from ? and women, and so began my journey and my realization that I was only ? not saved.

    If being saved from ourselves was that easy, heaven would be on earth already!

    Surely we are "savable" in some way no?
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  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
    edited November 2010
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    If being saved from ourselves was that easy, heaven would be on earth already!

    Surely we are "savable" in some way no?

    Yes, through death.

    A living being cannot resist some form "sin" or temptation. It's all natural, you can only hope to contain it during the right moments.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    edited November 2010
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    ThaChozenWun wrote: »
    Yes, through death.

    A living being cannot resist some form "sin" or temptation. It's all natural, you can only hope to contain it during the right moments.

    Nicely said.
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  • ItzGravitation
    ItzGravitation Members Posts: 7,205 ✭
    edited November 2010
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    No such thing as sin.
    Just a made up term to trick feeble minds into following a man made religion.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    No such thing as sin.
    Just a made up term to trick feeble minds into following a man made religion.

    Are there such things as errors/mistakes?
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  • ItzGravitation
    ItzGravitation Members Posts: 7,205 ✭
    edited November 2010
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    Are there such things as errors/mistakes?

    depends.
    I figure you just live life.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    depends.
    I figure you just live life.

    What do mean depends?
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  • ItzGravitation
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    edited November 2010
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    What do mean depends?

    you can murder someone and consider it a mistake,
    But since everything happens for a reason i see it as fate.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    you can murder someone and consider it a mistake,
    But since everything happens for a reason i see it as fate.

    Indeed...... errors and mistakes are our fate.....
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  • ItzGravitation
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    edited November 2010
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    Indeed...... errors and mistakes are our fate.....

    no.
    We live life.
    Some one told you that a mistake was. if not for that you'd just live life.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    no.
    We live life.
    Some one told you that a mistake was. if not for that you'd just live life.

    Hmmm hard to separate never being told what a mistake was from language.
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  • ItzGravitation
    ItzGravitation Members Posts: 7,205 ✭
    edited November 2010
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    Hmmm hard to separate never being told what a mistake was from language.

    if someo one hadnt told you what right/wrong was you wouldnt feel you made a mistake.
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    if someo one hadnt told you what right/wrong was you wouldnt feel you made a mistake.

    So if no one ever told any one about how lying is a mistake, people would go around lying because they don't feel like they are making a mistake?
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  • ItzGravitation
    ItzGravitation Members Posts: 7,205 ✭
    edited November 2010
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    So if no one ever told any one about how lying is a mistake, people would go around lying because they don't feel like they are making a mistake?

    of course.
    just like if stealing wasnt "wrong" no one would feel "guilty" afterwards
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    of course.
    just like if stealing wasnt "wrong" no one would feel "guilty" afterwards

    I don't think I needed someone to tell me I felt like ? when I lied to someone.
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  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    ThaChozenWun wrote: »
    I got "saved" again when I was 12... I was told and ultimately believed that I was saved at that time from my past sins and from the devils temptation.

    Two years later I learned I wasn't saved from ? and women, and so began my journey and my realization that I was only ? not saved.

    You're only human...flesh, blood, organs and bone...but your human body also consist of a spirit and a soul. When you get saved or the true biblical term "born again", once you confessed your life to Christ, your spirit being(internal) is the main element that's saved, not your flesh(external) unfortunately still has those fleshly desires.
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  • Chike
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    if someo one hadnt told you what right/wrong was you wouldnt feel you made a mistake.



    Would you leave your hand on a burning stove? lol No? Then don't tell us that nature doesn't have ways of telling us what's right or wrong.
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  • ItzGravitation
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    Chike wrote: »
    Would you leave your hand on a burning stove? lol No? Then don't tell us that nature doesn't have ways of telling us what's right or wrong.

    thats physical pain vs something else.
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  • Chike
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    thats physical pain vs something else.



    vs what? PHysical pain is one of the ways someone can tell what is right or wrong. You said we wouldn't know right from wrong unless someone told us... you're dead wrong... dead... wrong.
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  • ItzGravitation
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    Chike wrote: »
    vs what? PHysical pain is one of the ways someone can tell what is right or wrong. You said we wouldn't know right from wrong unless someone told us... you're dead wrong... dead... wrong.

    ppl say premarital sex is wrong and nothing painfully wrong about it.
    Cigarettes and Alcohol feel good but look at the long term effects
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  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    If Chike and I were colleagues in Congress, we'd be on opposite sides of the aisle but work together on one issue, much like McCain-Feingold.
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  • Chike
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    1) ppl say premarital sex is wrong and nothing painfully wrong about it.
    2) Cigarettes and Alcohol feel good but look at the long term effects

    1) Well I guess the people are wrong then.

    2) If it kills us and we know it kills us, then it's wrong. Trial and error. Some things are known right away when they're extremely wrong. Other things kills us slowly and takes time to realize it's wrong.

    shootemwon wrote: »
    If Chike and I were colleagues in Congress, we'd be on opposite sides of the aisle but work together on one issue, much like McCain-Feingold.



    It happens. I'm not a one track mind.
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  • ItzGravitation
    ItzGravitation Members Posts: 7,205 ✭
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    Chike wrote: »
    1) Well I guess the people are wrong then.

    2) If it kills us and we know it kills us, then it's wrong. Trial and error. Some things are known right away when they're extremely wrong. Other things kills us slowly and takes time to realize it's wrong.






    It happens. I'm not a one track mind.

    i'm sorry but i'm too tired for this.
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  • Chike
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    edited November 2010
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    i'm sorry but i'm too tired for this.



    Nah, stay up. You don't need sleep, remember? Ignore your body telling you that if you dont sleep, you'll get exhausted. lol Nothing wrong with not sleeping. right?
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