The Kobe vs MJ debate is over
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Tommy Billfiger
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This is the last time this debate will be addressed
Kobe is a great scorer let his legacy be his own stop wit the unwarranted comparisons to the GOAT
Its a reason why he's called the goat
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Koe haS more range but mj is better.
Kobe is playing in a tougher era tho... -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »
Kobe is playing in a tougher era tho...
you seriouss??? Like MJ said, he would easily score 100 points if he played in this era. -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Koe haS more range but mj is better.
Kobe is playing in a tougher era tho...
I gotta disagree with the bolded, I think MJ played in a tougher era -
Ahhh ? .... Here we go
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Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Koe haS more range but mj is better.
Kobe is playing in a tougher era tho...
lol what the hell? -
you seriouss??? Like MJ said, he would easily score 100 points if he played in this era.
Excpet for center every posiition in the NBA is stacked right Now in terms of talent. Look how many great pg sgs sf there are. In mj's era it wasn't this stacked. The defense is less phsyical but players weren't as talented as they are today -
I don't know. That Nutella sponsorship makes this a close race.
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Tommy Billfiger wrote: »
This is the last time this debate will be addressed
Kobe is a great scorer let his legacy be his own stop wit the unwarranted comparisons to the GOAT
Its a reason why he's called the goat
Cosign!! Kobe aint no where near MJ. Tho Kobe wuz an integral part to the Laker team that won 3 ships, it stil wuz Shaq's team. Kobe playd 2nd Fiddle to Shaq but MJ never did that. MJ won 5 regular season MVPs, 6 Finals MVP but Kobe has 1 season MVP, 2 Finals MVPs. MJ never playd with an Elite Big, the same cant be said for Kobe -
Cosign!! Kobe aint no where near MJ. Tho Kobe wuz an integral part to the Laker team that won 3 ships, it stil wuz Shaq's team. Kobe playd 2nd Fiddle to Shaq but MJ never did that. MJ won 5 regular season MVPs, 6 Finals MVP but Kobe has 1 season MVP, 2 Finals MVPs. MJ never playd with an Elite Big, the same cant be said for Kobe
I still think MJ wouldve dominated the same or probably better in this era too
MJ is a better defender then Kobe -
T. Sanford wrote: »I still think MJ wouldve dominated the same or probably better in this era too
MJ is a better defender then Kobe
To me this is the only clear advantage MJ has. -
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If the debate was over u wouldn't feel threatened enough to continuously compare the two and say the same ? over and over and over.....
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Cosign!! Kobe aint no where near MJ. Tho Kobe wuz an integral part to the Laker team that won 3 ships, it stil wuz Shaq's team. Kobe playd 2nd Fiddle to Shaq but MJ never did that. MJ won 5 regular season MVPs, 6 Finals MVP but Kobe has 1 season MVP, 2 Finals MVPs. MJ never playd with an Elite Big, the same cant be said for Kobe
To be fair, you need an elite big to win a chip in today's NBA. This ain't the 90's.... -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »To be fair, you need an elite big to win a chip in today's NBA. This ain't the 90's....
Bruh you lucky that dumb quotes thread is closed -
Tommy Billfiger wrote: »Bruh you lucky that dumb quotes thread is closed
word? who close that? -
To me this is the only clear advantage MJ has.
Kobe is definitely the closest thing to MJ but still far off. It's clear that Kobe has patterned his game after MJ. For him to be better than MJ, he would have to do a lot more than equal Jordan and outdo Jordan and I don't see that happening.
The one thing that gives MJ the edge for me is this.
Jordan played with Luc Longley, Carthright as his bigs; Kobe played with Shaq and now Gasol. What Gasol is doing now is def. the best big man in the league. Pippen = Odom in my opinion. With, Pippen, Maybe MJ made him look better than he actually was. Good but not great. No disrespect to Pip, because he was an essential part of the Bulls. But if MJ and Kobe were to trade their respective teams, I think MJ has 10 titles or more and Kobe has 1 at best. -
Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »To be fair, you need an elite big to win a chip in today's NBA. This ain't the 90's....
so ben wallace is a an elite big? -
Tommy Billfiger wrote: »Bruh you lucky that dumb quotes thread is closed[/QUOTEGIG me a team this deacde that eons chip without Give me team that won a chip this decade without an elite big man
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Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »Tommy Billfiger wrote: »Bruh you lucky that dumb quotes thread is closed[/QUOTEGIG me a team this deacde that eons chip without Give me team that won a chip this decade without an elite big man
the detroit pistons -
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Kobe is definitely the closest thing to MJ but still far off. It's clear that Kobe has patterned his game after MJ. For him to be better than MJ, he would have to do a lot more than equal Jordan and outdo Jordan and I don't see that happening.
The one thing that gives MJ the edge for me is this.
Jordan played with Luc Longley, Carthright as his bigs; Kobe played with Shaq and now Gasol. What Gasol is doing now is def. the best big man in the league. Pippen = Odom in my opinion. With, Pippen, Maybe MJ made him look better than he actually was. Good but not great. No disrespect to Pip, because he was an essential part of the Bulls. But if MJ and Kobe were to trade their respective teams, I think MJ has 10 titles or more and Kobe has 1 at best.
Excellent post my ? I been sayin this for years
@mr cj millz put in the fof -
Rasheed and big Ben were great players. That pistons team was an anomoly anyway. Every other year tho a team has one with a great big. Jordan won titles with Luc longley at center. That's not happening in today's NBA. Look at the heat, they have scrubs at center and they not winning right nowMvpbrodie93 wrote: »
the detroit pistons -
Pippen is WAY better then odom lolz.Kobe is definitely the closest thing to MJ but still far off. It's clear that Kobe has patterned his game after MJ. For him to be better than MJ, he would have to do a lot more than equal Jordan and outdo Jordan and I don't see that happening.
The one thing that gives MJ the edge for me is this.
Jordan played with Luc Longley, Carthright as his bigs; Kobe played with Shaq and now Gasol. What Gasol is doing now is def. the best big man in the league. Pippen = Odom in my opinion. With, Pippen, Maybe MJ made him look better than he actually was. Good but not great. No disrespect to Pip, because he was an essential part of the Bulls. But if MJ and Kobe were to trade their respective teams, I think MJ has 10 titles or more and Kobe has 1 at best. -
Why do mj fans underate pippen to prop up mike?
And I'm a mike fan but this is crazy -
Kobe is definitely the closest thing to MJ but still far off. It's clear that Kobe has patterned his game after MJ. For him to be better than MJ, he would have to do a lot more than equal Jordan and outdo Jordan and I don't see that happening.
The one thing that gives MJ the edge for me is this.
Jordan played with Luc Longley, Carthright as his bigs; Kobe played with Shaq and now Gasol. What Gasol is doing now is def. the best big man in the league. Pippen = Odom in my opinion. With, Pippen, Maybe MJ made him look better than he actually was. Good but not great. No disrespect to Pip, because he was an essential part of the Bulls. But if MJ and Kobe were to trade their respective teams, I think MJ has 10 titles or more and Kobe has 1 at best.
Pippen= Odom WTF????????? 4Real Man anybody ever watched Pippen play Pippen made Jordan look good b/c he did everything Jordan didnt have 2 like shutdown the best player on the other team, run the point do all the ? Pippen WAS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE 2ND BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE AT THE TIME. HE ALMOST WON WITHOUT JORDAN. 93-94 season where blown call lost that game against the knicks LO=Pippen #youmustgotthatkush
