Why all the Hate for Scottie??

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Copper
Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 2010 in From the Cheap Seats
I see dudes in here saying pip was overrated and MJ made him better...well MJ made everyone better seeing as how he was the greatest player ever...
and as far as overrated...he held his own on the offensive end....he was a lockdown defender
the best al around player in the game when he was in his prime....
can anyone name a weakness in scotties skill set??
can anyone name 10 small fowards better than pip??

Oh and didnt pip lead the bulls to the ECF and one game away from the finals minus Jordan in 94?
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  • birdcall89
    birdcall89 Members Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
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    dont get me wrong, mj is the goat, but he needed scottie.
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    dude had one good year in 94 without mj

    Look at his numbers in houston and portland.....those are role player numbers

    Just saying......
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    Oh and he didnt "take" portland to the wcf......he was a role player on that team. He wasnt even their best player smmfh
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    htowntx wrote: »
    dude had one good year in 94 without mj

    Look at his numbers in houston and portland.....those are role player numbers

    Just saying......

    he was suffering from injuries then and his game was on the decline but he did his thing in portland....
    is he not one of the top SF of all time??
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    he was suffering from injuries then and his game was on the decline but he did his thing in portland....
    is he not one of the top SF of all time??

    Not on just stats because I probably can name 10 SFs with better stats....but on intangibles yes
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    He was past his prime. tha ? was in tha league for ova a decade when he left Chicago. Shaq been puttin up role player numbers for a while now too.

    Yeah but shaq was a beast from the get go..pip wasnt. His first 2 years wasnt amazing and his last 5 or 6 wasnt neither.
  • jay83
    jay83 Members Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Him and Charles barkely weren't the best of friends..........
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    for one year, 94, scottie pippen was the best & most complete player in the league. he did everything for that team
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    jay83 wrote: »
    Him and Charles barkely weren't the best of friends..........

    He still wasnt good without mj and the subsequent years in portland proved that
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    for one year, 94, scottie pippen was the best & most complete player in the league. he did everything for that team

    Olajuwon in 94>>>>>>>
  • radaman
    radaman Members Posts: 11,912 ✭✭✭
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    Oh ? , where's Bilfiger?? But yeah, that ? Scottie was necessary...
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    htowntx wrote: »
    Olajuwon in 94>>>>>>>

    nah olajuwon had a better team. pippen led that bulls team in every stat
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    htowntx wrote: »
    Not on just stats because I probably can name 10 SFs with better stats....but on intangibles yes
    well he played with MJ so his stats are gonna take a hit somewhat...but c/s
    jay83 wrote: »
    Him and Charles barkely weren't the best of friends..........
  • jay83
    jay83 Members Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They interviewed Matt bullard I believe a few years ago.

    And he said When Scottie pippen came to houston all he talked about was how everything wasnt like it was in Chicago.

    Like when Houston lost, he would say "man if this was chicago we would have............... (insert line) ". lol

    Scottie was a good player though. I think he and T-Mac are very similar. They are great, but not good enough to carry a team.


    That Portland team from 1999 had so much talent it was ridiculous.
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    nah olajuwon had a better team. pippen led that bulls team in every stat

    Yeah but u said pip was the best player in 94.......and clearly the dream was better
  • ShencotheMC
    ShencotheMC Members Posts: 26,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ? downplaying Scottie just to big up Mike now? Lmao stans say the darndest things
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    radaman wrote: »
    Oh ? , where's Bilfiger?? But yeah, that ? Scottie was necessary...
    that phagget will try to turn this into a mj vs kobe thread like always......
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    jay83 wrote: »
    They interviewed Matt bullard I believe a few years ago.

    And he said When Scottie pippen came to houston all he talked about was how everything wasnt like it was in Chicago.

    Like when Houston lost, he would say "man if this was chicago we would have............... (insert line) ". lol

    Scottie was a good player though. I think he and T-Mac are very similar. They are great, but not good enough to carry a team.


    That Portland team from 1999 had so much talent it was ridiculous.
    cant blame dude ? was having championship withdrawals
    but yeah portland was stacked
    pippen
    rasheed
    steve smith
    sabonis
    stoudemire
    j. oneal
    bonzi wells
    d. anderson
    detletshrempf
    d. davis

    I remember they were called the Portland Jailblazers also
  • WhoisDonG???
    WhoisDonG??? Members Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The hate for Pippen is funny Like I said again and again Pippen changed the Small Foward position he invented the Point Foward from the wing position ! one of the best defenders ever. You see the Grant Hill's and Tmac cuz of Pippen a real deal all around player. He did things that stat sheets want show. Not only that he was a reliable second option that could control the tempo of the game he guarded 1-4 positions. He was the second best player in the League. Led the bulls to 55 wins when he played solo. And Tommy before you say that he sat out Game 3 because the play wasn't drawn up for him and thats disrespect to him because he was the Man. The second year when hethe Bulls hovering around .500 The Bulls had nobody Loss Grant and Armstrong so your starting 5 was Pippen Pete Myers, Toni Kukoc Will Perdue. and Ron Harper. With a bench of journeyman like Jud Bucheler and Steve Kerr and Larry Kistowiak and who's winning with that bro??? Jordan couldn't even win with that when he cameback LOL.
  • htowntx
    htowntx Members Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭
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    When has scottie pippen EVER been the second best player in the nba?
  • KNiGHTS
    KNiGHTS Members Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There is Pippen hate? If you hate Pippen, you hate life and must've been a 90s baby who didn't comprehend what he was watching.

    As on his own ? as Mike is, he knows every one of his rings is outsourced without Pip.
  • WhoisDonG???
    WhoisDonG??? Members Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    htowntx wrote: »
    When has scottie pippen EVER been the second best player in the nba?

    Bro he was Jordan equal in the aspect of all around player Ofcourse Jordan is the GOAT but as far a a all around player and relentless on the court just like Jordan was.It's like Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig for the Yankees they both was great players just that Ruth was Greater Lou was right behind him though
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    best all-around player for some years but I wouldnt say the best
  • WhoisDonG???
    WhoisDonG??? Members Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    best all-around player for some years but I wouldnt say the best

    Who was then??? Pippen birth the Grant Hills and TMac's he was a stat stuffer. Point Foward was Pippen.