The Gaining of Knowledge...

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toktaylor
toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
edited December 2010 in R & R (Religion and Race)
Genesis 3:21

"The LORD ? made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD ? said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the LORD ? banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life."

Based on the above scripture, there is nothing left for man to learn, the day we partook of the fruit (tree of knowledge) all knowledge was bestowed unto us..and we became like GODS. The problem is how do we choose to use this knowledge...we have chosen to enslave ourselves with materialistic desires...just imagine how much we can achieve if we seek spiritual enlightenment, especially 'service to others' instead of 'service to selves'. It is time to remove the veil of deception that have been placed before us (by others and by ourselves) and fulfill our true destinies.

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  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    that story is made up bro, dunno if you heard
  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
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    "The man has now become like one of us"

    Who is they?
  • toktaylor
    toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
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    i had posted this in some other thread before....

    ALL KNOWLEDGE COMES FROM ? …I AM… BECAUSE… HE IS.
    WE WERE MADE IN HIS IMAGE AND IS GIFTED WITH AN IMMORTAL SOUL (OUR INNER LIGHT) THAT WAS MADE TO WORSHIP AND PRAISE THE CREATOR (JEHOVA).
    MAN HAS THE ABILITY TO DO ALL THAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE BECAUSE THE MIND IS DIRIVED FROM THE SOUL…WHICH IS NOT LIMITED BY PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES.

    ALL IS POSSIBLE, TRAVELLING TO OTHER PLANETS, WORLD PEACE, BENDING TIME AND SPACE; ANTI-GRAVITY…THERE IS NO LIMIT.

    THE RESULT OF MAN SHORTFALL CAME ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TRICKED BY THE “SERPENT” IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN. WE BECAME AWARE, AND STARTED PLACING EMPHASIS ON THE PHYSICAL BODY. WHETHER IT WAS THOROUGH THE EATING AF AN APPLE OR THE ACT OF SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, OUR FOCUS WAS NO LONGER SPRITUAL AND WE BECAME SHACKLED TO THE HUMAN BODY AND THE NEED FOR PLEASURE AND SELF GRATIFICATION.

    THINK ABOUT IT…THE BIBLE RECOUNTED THAT THE CREATOR ASKED, “WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE NAKED?” WE WERE NAKED BUT WE NEVER KNEW IT…THE HUMAN BODY WAS NOT OF IMPORTANCE TO US.

    THE PUNISHMENT THEN BECAME, THE IMMORTAL SOUL WAS TRAPPED IN THE HUMAN PHYSICALLITY FOR A LIMITED TIME.

    WHEN WE ARE BORN THE SOUL/MIND IS ERASED AND WE ARE LIMITED IN OUR KNOWLEDGE TO WHAT WE ARE TAUGHT OR HAVE LEARNED IN OUR LIFETIME. EACH GENERTATION UNLOCKS A BIT MORE TO REACHING TOTAL KNOWLEDGE, SO WE MOVE FFROM THE “STONE-AGE” TO THE “AGE OF THE COMPUTER” TO INTERSTELLAR FLIGHT AND BEYOND BUT BECAUSE WE ARE MISLED BY THE BODY WE ALWAYS ONLY MANAGE TO SELF-DESTRUCT.

    THERFORE, THE KEY TO UNLOCKING THE SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE IS THEREFORE BY REGAINING THE SPIRITUAL AWARENESS WE ONCE HAD, BY ACKNOWLEDING THAT ? EXISTS AND THAT WE ARE SOMEHOW SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED, THAT THE PHYSICAL BODY IS ONLY A TEMPORARY VESSEL FOR THE SOUL. THAT WE SHOULD NOT GET SO CAUGHT UP WITH PHYSICAL ACHIEVMENT THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT WE ARE PART OF THE OMNIIPOTENCE, THE CREATOR, THE ONE AND ONLY, ? , JEHOVAH OR WHATEVER YOU CONCEIVE THE DIETY OF THE UNLIMITED POWER OF THE MIND AND SOUL TO BE.

    WE ARE CONSTANTLY IN A CYCLE OF TRYING TO LIVE FOREVER THAT WE DO NOT REALISE THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS NOW BEING INVENTED WAS ACTUALLY DONE BEFORE. ALL THAT WE CONSIDER NEW TECHNOLOGY IS SECRETS THAT ARE BEING REDISCOVERED AND WHENEVER WE ATTAIN THE CRITICAL LEVEL OF DISCOVERY WE SELF DISTRUCT AND HAVE TO START ANEW…THINK ABOUT IT,… MAN HAS TRIED TO LEAVE FOOT PRINTS AND CLUES OF HIS ACHIEVEMENT, BUT THE PROOF CAN ONLY BE LEFT IN A PHYSICAL FORM THAT CANNOT LAST FOREVER. IF I SHOULD TRY TO LEAVE THIS MESSAGE FOR MAN TEN THOUSAND YEAR FROM NOW IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. FIRSTLY, THE PAPER THAT THIS WOULD BE PRINTED ON WOULD ROT, THE HARDDRIVE WOULD EVENTUALLY DECAY OR BE RECYCLED OR EVERYTHING WOULD BE DESTROYED BY A MAN-MADE HOLOCAST (GLOBAL WARMING OR NUCLEAR) THAT IS ENIVITABLE IF WE CONTINUE ON THIS PATH.
  • ThaChozenWun
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    Global Warming isn't really man made. The Earth has always had cycles between extreme drought and heat, periods of normality, and then an ice age and the cycle repeated. We just sped up the process

    And again as I always say, do you know how many nukes would have to be dropped and detonated to wipe out mankind?
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    toktaylor wrote: »
    ALL KNOWLEDGE COMES FROM ? …I AM… BECAUSE… HE IS.

    ? isn't.

    You are, unfortunately.
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
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    toktaylor wrote: »
    Genesis 3:21

    "The LORD ? made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD ? said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the LORD ? banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life."

    Based on the above scripture, there is nothing left for man to learn, the day we partook of the fruit (tree of knowledge) all knowledge was bestowed unto us..and we became like GODS. The problem is how do we choose to use this knowledge...we have chosen to enslave ourselves with materialistic desires...just imagine how much we can achieve if we seek spiritual enlightenment, especially 'service to others' instead of 'service to selves'. It is time to remove the veil of deception that have been placed before us (by others and by ourselves) and fulfill our true destinies.

    Another problem that may exist is...whether or not we have "ultimate" authority to determine what we do with knowledge; how knowledge is used.
  • Hyde Parke
    Hyde Parke Members Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭
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    so what is the purpose of this thread?:confused:
  • VIBE
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    "The man has now become like one of us"

    Who is they?

    ? and his angels? Some can argue Jesus and the Holy Spirit is included, that being the Trinity but that cannot be. Jesus wasn't created nor was he even a thought (from my readings). The "Holy Spirit" could be possible, I'd have to read more and see though...
  • toktaylor
    toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
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    Hyde Parke wrote: »
    so what is the purpose of this thread?:confused:

    the purpose of this thread is to examine, exactly what is this knowledge that we obtained...and how should it used in this reality and beyond. My quest is to obtain the truth of our existence from the knowledge that we gained.

    Truth when broken down into its basic elements comprises of Logic, Common Sense and Circumstantial Evidence.
    Logic is the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning. Common sense is sound judgment. Circumstantial evidence is relating to, or dependent on circumstances or physical evidence. All three elements have to coincide with each other for it to be the truth.
  • toktaylor
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    My time on this forum and other materials i have read, especially in 2010 has led me to the following observation/conclusion about the gaining of knowledge:

    Ancient texts, including the Bible, and other cultures mentions the conflict between "? " and the Serpent. "? " was trying to keep a certain type of knowledge away from Mankind and the Serpent was trying to teach Mankind that knowledge. The victor of that conflict would be the ones (yes plural!) who controlled earth. In Eden the members of "? " made it a sin to eat of the fruit. The fruit is an apple and it is symbolic for a certain kind of knowledge. To help keep Man away from that knowledge they taught that if Man learned it he would die.
    Ask the question, "Why should learning knowledge be a sin?" (the original sin) and comparing it to modern day observations ought to wake you up to the fact that you live within societal system that was engineered by the members of "? " to empower themselves while keeping those who live within it ignorant. Do you want to test this theory?

    Write down on a piece of paper all the things that you own. Next, for each item ask yourself, "Did I design and manufacture this item?"
    A majority of things within your home you purchased and have no knowledge of how they were designed or built.The social system you live within lies to you. It conditions your mind to think that you are the most advanced human earth has ever seen when in fact, the reverse is true. You are dependant on it for all your basic needs. Everything is already prepare for you. Your clothes come from department stores, your food comes from grocery stores, and your home was most likely not designed and built by you either.

    However, the information they do not want you to learn however is not of the technological kind, it is The Forbidden Knowledge. Methods used to control an entire world and to keep the personalities who live in that world spiritually ignorant and unaware of the prison system they are caught in. Did you learn anything about Freemasonry’s dominate presence on earth in grade school?

    Do you think that is progress? The bottom line is, you can use technology but you cannot design and build your own unless you have a lot of money and who controls the money? Freemasonry. All this is done to create a veil over your eyes, to distract you from the real knowledge, spirtual awakening... The Custodians [? ]/Freemasons/Aliens clearly did not want mankind to begin traveling the road to spiritual recovery, to realise how much power we posses, how close we are to the Infinite Creator.
  • Chike
    Chike Members Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭
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    toktaylor wrote: »
    i had posted this in some other thread before....

    ALL KNOWLEDGE COMES FROM ? …I AM… BECAUSE… HE IS.
    WE WERE MADE IN HIS IMAGE AND IS GIFTED WITH AN IMMORTAL SOUL (OUR INNER LIGHT) THAT WAS MADE TO WORSHIP AND PRAISE THE CREATOR (JEHOVA).
    MAN HAS THE ABILITY TO DO ALL THAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE BECAUSE THE MIND IS DIRIVED FROM THE SOUL…WHICH IS NOT LIMITED BY PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES.

    ALL IS POSSIBLE, TRAVELLING TO OTHER PLANETS, WORLD PEACE, BENDING TIME AND SPACE; ANTI-GRAVITY…THERE IS NO LIMIT.

    THE RESULT OF MAN SHORTFALL CAME ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TRICKED BY THE “SERPENT” IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN. WE BECAME AWARE, AND STARTED PLACING EMPHASIS ON THE PHYSICAL BODY. WHETHER IT WAS THOROUGH THE EATING AF AN APPLE OR THE ACT OF SEXUAL INTERCOURSE, OUR FOCUS WAS NO LONGER SPRITUAL AND WE BECAME SHACKLED TO THE HUMAN BODY AND THE NEED FOR PLEASURE AND SELF GRATIFICATION.

    THINK ABOUT IT…THE BIBLE RECOUNTED THAT THE CREATOR ASKED, “WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE NAKED?” WE WERE NAKED BUT WE NEVER KNEW IT…THE HUMAN BODY WAS NOT OF IMPORTANCE TO US.

    THE PUNISHMENT THEN BECAME, THE IMMORTAL SOUL WAS TRAPPED IN THE HUMAN PHYSICALLITY FOR A LIMITED TIME.

    WHEN WE ARE BORN THE SOUL/MIND IS ERASED AND WE ARE LIMITED IN OUR KNOWLEDGE TO WHAT WE ARE TAUGHT OR HAVE LEARNED IN OUR LIFETIME. EACH GENERTATION UNLOCKS A BIT MORE TO REACHING TOTAL KNOWLEDGE, SO WE MOVE FFROM THE “STONE-AGE” TO THE “AGE OF THE COMPUTER” TO INTERSTELLAR FLIGHT AND BEYOND BUT BECAUSE WE ARE MISLED BY THE BODY WE ALWAYS ONLY MANAGE TO SELF-DESTRUCT.

    THERFORE, THE KEY TO UNLOCKING THE SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE IS THEREFORE BY REGAINING THE SPIRITUAL AWARENESS WE ONCE HAD, BY ACKNOWLEDING THAT ? EXISTS AND THAT WE ARE SOMEHOW SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED, THAT THE PHYSICAL BODY IS ONLY A TEMPORARY VESSEL FOR THE SOUL. THAT WE SHOULD NOT GET SO CAUGHT UP WITH PHYSICAL ACHIEVMENT THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT WE ARE PART OF THE OMNIIPOTENCE, THE CREATOR, THE ONE AND ONLY, ? , JEHOVAH OR WHATEVER YOU CONCEIVE THE DIETY OF THE UNLIMITED POWER OF THE MIND AND SOUL TO BE.

    WE ARE CONSTANTLY IN A CYCLE OF TRYING TO LIVE FOREVER THAT WE DO NOT REALISE THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS NOW BEING INVENTED WAS ACTUALLY DONE BEFORE. ALL THAT WE CONSIDER NEW TECHNOLOGY IS SECRETS THAT ARE BEING REDISCOVERED AND WHENEVER WE ATTAIN THE CRITICAL LEVEL OF DISCOVERY WE SELF DISTRUCT AND HAVE TO START ANEW…THINK ABOUT IT,… MAN HAS TRIED TO LEAVE FOOT PRINTS AND CLUES OF HIS ACHIEVEMENT, BUT THE PROOF CAN ONLY BE LEFT IN A PHYSICAL FORM THAT CANNOT LAST FOREVER. IF I SHOULD TRY TO LEAVE THIS MESSAGE FOR MAN TEN THOUSAND YEAR FROM NOW IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE. FIRSTLY, THE PAPER THAT THIS WOULD BE PRINTED ON WOULD ROT, THE HARDDRIVE WOULD EVENTUALLY DECAY OR BE RECYCLED OR EVERYTHING WOULD BE DESTROYED BY A MAN-MADE HOLOCAST (GLOBAL WARMING OR NUCLEAR) THAT IS ENIVITABLE IF WE CONTINUE ON THIS PATH.
    toktaylor wrote: »
    My time on this forum and other materials i have read, especially in 2010 has led me to the following observation/conclusion about the gaining of knowledge:

    Ancient texts, including the Bible, and other cultures mentions the conflict between "? " and the Serpent. "? " was trying to keep a certain type of knowledge away from Mankind and the Serpent was trying to teach Mankind that knowledge. The victor of that conflict would be the ones (yes plural!) who controlled earth. In Eden the members of "? " made it a sin to eat of the fruit. The fruit is an apple and it is symbolic for a certain kind of knowledge. To help keep Man away from that knowledge they taught that if Man learned it he would die.
    Ask the question, "Why should learning knowledge be a sin?" (the original sin) and comparing it to modern day observations ought to wake you up to the fact that you live within societal system that was engineered by the members of "? " to empower themselves while keeping those who live within it ignorant. Do you want to test this theory?

    Write down on a piece of paper all the things that you own. Next, for each item ask yourself, "Did I design and manufacture this item?"
    A majority of things within your home you purchased and have no knowledge of how they were designed or built.The social system you live within lies to you. It conditions your mind to think that you are the most advanced human earth has ever seen when in fact, the reverse is true. You are dependant on it for all your basic needs. Everything is already prepare for you. Your clothes come from department stores, your food comes from grocery stores, and your home was most likely not designed and built by you either.

    However, the information they do not want you to learn however is not of the technological kind, it is The Forbidden Knowledge. Methods used to control an entire world and to keep the personalities who live in that world spiritually ignorant and unaware of the prison system they are caught in. Did you learn anything about Freemasonry’s dominate presence on earth in grade school?

    Do you think that is progress? The bottom line is, you can use technology but you cannot design and build your own unless you have a lot of money and who controls the money? Freemasonry. All this is done to create a veil over your eyes, to distract you from the real knowledge, spirtual awakening... The Custodians [? ]/Freemasons/Aliens clearly did not want mankind to begin traveling the road to spiritual recovery, to realise how much power we posses, how close we are to the Infinite Creator.




    I like these posts. They're very enlightening.