80's rap era was the best era in rap

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juelz21
juelz21 Members Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭
edited January 2011 in The Reason
u had kool g rap big daddy kane krs one rakim and so many other mc's it was about creativity and originality and lyrics. u could'nt bite nobody style. now and days everybody sound alike.
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  • Scholar Jaw
    Scholar Jaw Members Posts: 498
    edited December 2010
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    juelz21 wrote: »
    u had kool g rap big daddy kane krs one rakim and so many other mc's it was about creativity and originality and lyrics. u could'nt bite nobody style. now and days everybody sound alike.

    There was a lack of substance back then. Majority of MCs used to rap about how great they were. Apart from a few like Chuck D.
  • MastaAceTheGOAT
    MastaAceTheGOAT Members Posts: 724
    edited December 2010
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    co sign

    kool g rap
    run dmc
    beastie boys
    slick rick
    krs one
    marley marl
    big daddy kane
    biz markie
    mc shan
    masta ace
    rakim
    ice t
    geto boys
    de la soul
    bran nubian
    ll cool j
    kool moe dee
    melle mel
    public enemy
    too short

    dayum, best era by far
  • MastaAceTheGOAT
    MastaAceTheGOAT Members Posts: 724
    edited December 2010
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    There was a lack of substance back then. Majority of MCs used to rap about how great they were. Apart from a few like Chuck D.

    i agree, but at the time it was fun original and now atleast they could set a scene. nowadays, a love song contains random metaphors about big fat ? , at least theyre was a flowing story in the golden era
  • Puff-A-Lot
    Puff-A-Lot Members Posts: 143
    edited December 2010
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    90's > 80's

    Yall grandpa's need to ?
  • juelz21
    juelz21 Members Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    There was a lack of substance back then. Majority of MCs used to rap about how great they were. Apart from a few like Chuck D.
    u had ice cube scarface krs-one and pe. so disagree
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    85 was the year when the deals started coming for those Artists, so it's tough to say a 5 year period of rap is better than a decade.

    But there were definitely talented Artists around then and without the pioneers of this era, it wouldn't have been as easy for all the records of the 90's to drop. But Rap music evolved from these days and from the storytelling of Slick Rick to the flows of BDK to the emceeing of G Rap; it become deeper/more complex as more lyrical rhymes developed beginning with Rakim to 94 Nas. It evolved and therefore I find it hard to state that the 80's are better than the 90's.
  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    edited December 2010
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    co sign

    kool g rap<<Biggie
    run dmc<<Outkast
    beastie boys<<Wu-Tang
    slick rick<<Nas
    krs one<<Scarface
    marley marl<<Raekwon
    big daddy kane<<Jay Z
    biz markie<<Busta Rhymes
    mc shan<<Lauryn Hill
    masta ace<<Eminem
    rakim<<3000
    ice t<<Ice Cube
    geto boys<<Bone Thugs
    de la soul<<Outkast
    bran nubian<<Goodie Mobb
    ll cool j<<Ghostface
    kool moe dee<<AZ
    melle mel<< Method Man
    public enemy<<The Roots
    too short<< Big Boi

    dayum, best era by far

    <<90s........
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    hlf wrote: »
    <<90s........

    lol dope post but it's harsh when those artists had the opportunity to build upon those before them, but it's also a reason why the 90's are better than the 80's. Agreed.
  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    edited December 2010
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    RuffDraft wrote: »
    lol dope post but it's harsh when those artists had the opportunity to build upon those before them, but it's also a reason why the 90's are better than the 80's. Agreed.

    That's life. NBA and NFL, same way. They built off their predecessors and became better. Only natural but at the same time the 00's took a slight step back in both music and sports imo.
  • genocide_cutter
    genocide_cutter Members Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    Its all about the early 90's. the 80's were cool though
  • ChuckieInDaMurderAve
    ChuckieInDaMurderAve Members Posts: 1,787 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    hlf wrote: »
    <<90s........

    Bone Thugs better than Geto Boys? Biggie better than Kool G Rap? The Roots better than Public Enemy? Heeeeeeell no to all three!

    And I never have a 'best decade' in hip-hop. To me it's 1986-1996 that I consider the best 'era'. That decade in itself contains classics upon classics.
  • MastaAceTheGOAT
    MastaAceTheGOAT Members Posts: 724
    edited December 2010
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    hlf wrote: »
    <<90s........

    Eminem better than ace?
    Roots better than public enemy?
    3000 better than rakim?
    Cmon son. What's your reasoning
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    90's...............
  • Drgoo0285
    Drgoo0285 Members Posts: 513 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    most 80's artist dropped better stuff in the 90's
  • Drgoo0285
    Drgoo0285 Members Posts: 513 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    most
    Bone Thugs better than Geto Boys? Biggie better than Kool G Rap? The Roots better than Public Enemy? Heeeeeeell no to all three!

    And I never have a 'best decade' in hip-hop. To me it's 1986-1996 that I consider the best 'era'. That decade in itself contains classics upon classics.

    most of those artist had better songs in the 90s
  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    edited December 2010
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    Eminem better than ace?
    Roots better than public enemy?
    3000 better than rakim?
    Cmon son. What's your reasoning

    You and Chuckie only came up 3 matchups worth discussing? Your pretty much proving my point. I couldve mixed the matchups around a few times and still the 90's would have the edge. No disrespect to the 80's at all, Im a 80's baby I just feel like the 90's was the pinnacle of Hip Hop
  • ChuckieInDaMurderAve
    ChuckieInDaMurderAve Members Posts: 1,787 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    Drgoo0285 wrote: »
    most

    most of those artist had better songs in the 90s

    Yep, but ain't no way Bone Thugs is better than Geto Boys for instance. Kool G Rap's best album is "Live and Let Die" (1992) and Public Enemy's best is "Fear of a Black Planet" (1990). To me, the best era in hip-hop is not from the start of a decade to it's end, it's from the mid-to-late 80s to early-to-mid 90s. And the best Geto Boys album is "Grip It! On That Other Level" (1989). But yeah, they dropped lots of dope stuff in the 90s too. There are only a couple of exceptions like Big Daddy Kane and Rakim who's 90s stuff and onwards can't match their two 80s albums.

    Jungle Brothers is the perfect example of a 80s act that lost it entirely when the 90s entered.

    And speaking of only 3 matches worth discussing. Ain't no way Jay-Z > Big Daddy Kane or Andre 3k > Rakim. And definitely not Ghostface > LL Cool J. Also N.W.A > any other group out there except Public Enemy.

    Even though hip-hop has come a long way since the 80s, 1988 will always remain the best year of hip-hop IMO.

    Name me another hip-hop year that has as many classic albums as 1988.

    Straight Outta Compton
    It Takes a Nation of Millions
    Long Live the Kane
    Strictly Business
    Follow the Leader
    By All Means Necessary
    Goin' Off
    The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
    Tougher Than Leather
    Life Is... Too $hort
    Critical Beatdown
    Eazy-Duz-It
    Power
    He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper
    In Full Gear
    In Control, Vol. 1
    Straight Out the Jungle
  • MastaAceTheGOAT
    MastaAceTheGOAT Members Posts: 724
    edited December 2010
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    hlf wrote: »
    You and Chuckie only came up 3 matchups worth discussing? Your pretty much proving my point. I couldve mixed the matchups around a few times and still the 90's would have the edge. No disrespect to the 80's at all, Im a 80's baby I just feel like the 90's was the pinnacle of Hip Hop

    Okay fair enough, I understand what your saying. The ? began to creep in 97/98
  • ChuckieInDaMurderAve
    ChuckieInDaMurderAve Members Posts: 1,787 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    Okay fair enough, I understand what your saying. The ? began to creep in 97/98

    That's what I'm saying. I refuse to say the 90s was the best era because it might make someone think ? years like 97 is better than "the year of classics" like 88 and 89. Therefore I'm somewhere in the middle and always consider 86-95/96 the best years.
  • Hatter
    Hatter Members Posts: 2,451 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    I prefer 90's hiphop you still had the 80's rappers, they were just better.
  • master_mentor
    master_mentor Members Posts: 222
    edited December 2010
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    86-89 best rest rap era/golden age
    90-93 post golden era
    94-96 gangsta/? rap era
    97-99 bling-bling era

    From 2000 to now = ? !
  • Scholar Jaw
    Scholar Jaw Members Posts: 498
    edited December 2010
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    juelz21 wrote: »
    u had ice cube scarface krs-one and pe. so disagree

    I said majority, not all
  • tupacfan35
    tupacfan35 Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    80's and 90's were much better eras of rap than they are after biggie and pac died (with the exception of a few good ones).
  • tupacfan35
    tupacfan35 Members Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    86-89 best rest rap era/golden age
    90-93 post golden era
    94-96 gangsta/? rap era
    97-99 bling-bling era

    From 2000 to now = ? !

    Actually from 1997-onward ? .
  • Drgoo0285
    Drgoo0285 Members Posts: 513 ✭✭
    edited December 2010
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    1997 had some great albums from rawkus.