Was Adam Really the First Man?

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toktaylor
toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
edited January 2011 in R & R (Religion and Race)
Let us explore something that is one of the greatest lies ever forced
upon mankind. we all know the story of adam and his boo eve? yes well we
are told that they were the first people on the earth. this is easy to
disprove as there are lots of skeletons,fossils,remains that shows that
man has been around for millions of years. thanks to the power of
religious brainwashing, this is ignored and as usual we are forced to use
the bible to prove what most politicians,religious leaders already know.
i find it remarkable that a christian can look at a skeleton that is
100,000 years old and come up with a variety of excuses because it
clearly shows that man was around long before adam.
For those of you, who have a free mind just take a look at your local
museum or do a quick search on google. for the die hearted christians i
invite you to yet another post that will make you come up with some fine
excuses, but i wont dwell on the skeletons instead i will use the bible
to try and open a few eyes(TRY). lets start with genesis 1 vs28;And ?
blessed them, and ? said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and
replenish the earth, and subdue it.now we also see genesis 9vs 1; And
? blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth”as we all see there, the word is
re-plenish, plenish means fill so we see them being told to replenish.
So its clear that ? told noah to re-plenish because the world and the
people in it were destroyed, so he has to fill it up again. so its clear
that adam was given the same orders so he couldnt be the first man ever
if he was told that. This was where i left it last time but what happen
when i dont go all out is that it allows gaps which can be filled with
weak excuses, i will attempt to fill those gaps today. we all know the
story of cain and abel right? cain killed abel, but listen to the
conversation he has with ? . genesis 14-15;Surely You have driven me
out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your
face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will
happen that anyone who finds me will ? me.”
15 And the LORD said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance
shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest
anyone finding him should ? him. Notice here that cain says that
anyone who finds him will ? him? at this point the bible clearly
states that the only people on the earth were ADAM,EVE,CAIN,ABEL(dead
now). this leaves 3 people but yet still cain is saying anyone who finds
him will ? him, this causes ? to put a mark on him to protect him
from these people that might ? him. When i put this to christians
they usually say that he was talking to his brothers and sisters, but
the bible clearly states that the next child is seth who isnt born until
adam was 130. but lets use our brains for a second, cain needed a mark
to show the other people that they shouldnt touch him. ? wouldnt have
to do this if they were cains brother and sis because they would have
heard the warning from ? and know to leave him alone.

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  • Chike
    Chike Members Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    No, I don't think so. Maybe he was the first 'Earth" made man.. but I don't think he was the first 'man' on Earth.... actually I don't think Adam was actually just one man, but a story of the first type of man.
  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
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    Chike wrote: »
    No, I don't think so. Maybe he was the first 'Earth" made man.. but I don't think he was the first 'man' on Earth.... actually I don't think Adam was actually just one man, but a story of the first type of man.

    Pretty much, Adam came from the word Adamu, which means original man.
  • dreadlock rasta
    dreadlock rasta Members Posts: 1,322 ✭✭
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    Yea i believe ? had already made men and women before Adam and Eve. They were just the ones in the Garden of Eden, the ones ? chose to take care of, but we all know what happened with them
  • Rock_Well
    Rock_Well Members Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    lol what nonsense is this yall up in here talking now? it's clear the bible teach Adam was the first man. Anyone teaching there was man before Adam is just another subscriber of evolution-istic teaching and beliefs.

    First off, MOST of the translation DON'T say 'replenish'. Second, the original Hebrew word that 'replenish' is translated from is 'mala'. The word 'mala' in it's original language is NOT being used in the way the t/s insists it is being used. In other words there is no implication in the context that the world was once, before Adam, 'FILLED' with humans. Adam was told to fill the earth - something that had not happened prior to Adam.

    Also you ignore the clear implication here: "In the beginning ? created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1)".
    Jesus also said "And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' " (Matthew 19:4).
    The beginning means the beginning. If it was not the first time that such has happened, then it would not say the 'beginning', duhh.

    Also, look up the definition for the Hebrew word that is translated in english as 'created'. It means to create something that never existed before - a word only used in connection with YAH.

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  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    lol what nonsense is this yall up in here talking now? it's clear the bible teach Adam was the first man. Anyone teaching there was man before Adam is just another subscriber of evolution-istic teaching and beliefs.

    First off, MOST of the translation DON'T say 'replenish'. Second, the original Hebrew word that 'replenish' is translated from is 'mala'. The word 'mala' in it's original language is NOT being used in the way the t/s insists it is being used. In other words there is no implication in the context that the world was once, before Adam, 'FILLED' with humans. Adam was told to fill the earth - something that had not happened prior to Adam.

    Also you ignore the clear implication here: "In the beginning ? created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1)".
    Jesus also said "And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' " (Matthew 19:4).
    The beginning means the beginning. If it was not the first time that such has happened, then it would not say the 'beginning', duhh.

    Also, look up the definition for the Hebrew word that is translated in english as 'created'. It means to create something that never existed before - a word only used in connection with YAH.

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    I may be wrong, and I can't find it, but I'm almost positive in the bible it states ? 'renewed' the face of the earth.
  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    lol what nonsense is this yall up in here talking now? it's clear the bible teach Adam was the first man. Anyone teaching there was man before Adam is just another subscriber of evolution-istic teaching and beliefs.

    First off, MOST of the translation DON'T say 'replenish'. Second, the original Hebrew word that 'replenish' is translated from is 'mala'. The word 'mala' in it's original language is NOT being used in the way the t/s insists it is being used. In other words there is no implication in the context that the world was once, before Adam, 'FILLED' with humans. Adam was told to fill the earth - something that had not happened prior to Adam.

    Also you ignore the clear implication here: "In the beginning ? created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1)".
    Jesus also said "And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,' " (Matthew 19:4).
    The beginning means the beginning. If it was not the first time that such has happened, then it would not say the 'beginning', duhh.

    Also, look up the definition for the Hebrew word that is translated in english as 'created'. It means to create something that never existed before - a word only used in connection with YAH.

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    as a Hebrew speaker and reader I can tell u that your understanding is off. the whole book starts of "in A beginning" - not in THE beginning. Adahm refers to a species of man- more specifically the ? -man. Also peep the actual Hebraic usage of "yom". It is mistranslated as day but it can mean a lifetine, a period in time and even a year although "shanah" is usually used for the word "year".

    YAH is eternal. That didnt start 6,000 years ago.

    I suggest to all serious scholars of the Genesis to peep " The Hebraic Tongue Revisited"
  • ThaChozenWun
    ThaChozenWun Members Posts: 9,390
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    VIBE86 wrote: »
    I may be wrong, and I can't find it, but I'm almost positive in the bible it states ? 'renewed' the face of the earth.

    I don't know man, the word renewed is used a few times but I don't ever remember it in genesis.
  • VIBE
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    I don't know man, the word renewed is used a few times but I don't ever remember it in genesis.

    Maybe it's a different word then but I remember reading it and I THINK Isrealites was the one that posted it. I dunno.
  • Rock_Well
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    VIBE86 wrote: »
    I may be wrong, and I can't find it, but I'm almost positive in the bible it states ? 'renewed' the face of the earth.

    If you not going to give grounds as to what makes your contention right then you have no argument.
  • toktaylor
    toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
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    Let me take you to a verse that is so
    bulletproof that it is completely ignored by the church. jeremiah 4 vs
    23-27;I beheld the earth and lo, it was without form and void; and the
    heavens and they had no light. I beheld the mountains and lo, they
    trembled and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld and lo, there was no
    man and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and lo, the
    fruitful place was a wilderness and all the cities thereof were broken
    down at the presence of the Lord and by His fierce anger. For thus hath
    the Lord said, ‘The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a
    full end.’” wow!!! as i said bullet proof, this verse is a vision
    jeremiah had of what the earth looked like before adam was on it, which
    is clear with the lines without form and void and the heavens and they
    had no light. remember that line? yes in genesis the same lines were
    used, so he is talking about the past and not the future. but look at
    what he is saying he couldnt see any man and the birds were all gone,
    and the CITIES were broken down. clearly there was a civilization
    around. but who could it be?? well plato and other ancient men described
    a place called ATLANTIS, which was said to be a super advanced
    civilization who possessed technology even more advanced than ours.
    legend has it that they were destroyed by a major event which wiped them
    off the earth. Some say its a myth but here we have jeremiah describing
    a place that is destroyed and the mountains trembling. This sounds like
    a earthquake caused the place to sink, but then you might say im crazy
    thats not possible…
  • toktaylor
    toktaylor Members Posts: 612 ✭✭
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    ADAM as in the name given to the first man in the bible is hebrew for
    AW-DAM meaning to show blood in the face. read into that what you want
    but black people dont show blood in our faces, escpecially back then
    before we started to become more light skinned. science proves that the
    black race was around much longer than the white race!! so maybe this is
    why the bible speaks about the ? of israel, because they really are
    his children and would explain why ? in the bible clearly says that
    they are chosen and his favourites. Do we have a different ? ? well i
    dont know seeing that the indigenous people were killed and called
    pagans.Kinda explains why the jews were helped out of slavery while
    blacks and others had to do it themselves, tune in next time while i
    shall look into how religion as we know started, no doubt you shall have
    a good laugh when you see that things that we laugh at now like aliens
    were commonly talked about and worshipped in the old days.
  • rapluva
    rapluva Members Posts: 232
    edited January 2011
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    toktaylor wrote: »
    Let us explore something that is one of the greatest lies ever forced
    upon mankind. we all know the story of adam and his boo eve? yes well we
    are told that they were the first people on the earth. this is easy to
    disprove as there are lots of skeletons,fossils,remains that shows that
    man has been around for millions of years. thanks to the power of
    religious brainwashing, this is ignored and as usual we are forced to use
    the bible to prove what most politicians,religious leaders already know.
    i find it remarkable that a christian can look at a skeleton that is
    100,000 years old and come up with a variety of excuses because it
    clearly shows that man was around long before adam.
    For those of you, who have a free mind just take a look at your local
    museum or do a quick search on google. for the die hearted christians i
    invite you to yet another post that will make you come up with some fine
    excuses, but i wont dwell on the skeletons instead i will use the bible
    to try and open a few eyes(TRY). lets start with genesis 1 vs28;And ?
    blessed them, and ? said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and
    replenish the earth, and subdue it.now we also see genesis 9vs 1; And
    ? blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and
    multiply, and replenish the earth”as we all see there, the word is
    re-plenish, plenish means fill so we see them being told to replenish.
    So its clear that ? told noah to re-plenish because the world and the
    people in it were destroyed, so he has to fill it up again. so its clear
    that adam was given the same orders so he couldnt be the first man ever
    if he was told that. This was where i left it last time but what happen
    when i dont go all out is that it allows gaps which can be filled with
    weak excuses, i will attempt to fill those gaps today. we all know the
    story of cain and abel right? cain killed abel, but listen to the
    conversation he has with ? . genesis 14-15;Surely You have driven me
    out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your
    face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will
    happen that anyone who finds me will ? me.”
    15 And the LORD said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance
    shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest
    anyone finding him should ? him. Notice here that cain says that
    anyone who finds him will ? him? at this point the bible clearly
    states that the only people on the earth were ADAM,EVE,CAIN,ABEL(dead
    now). this leaves 3 people but yet still cain is saying anyone who finds
    him will ? him, this causes ? to put a mark on him to protect him
    from these people that might ? him. When i put this to christians
    they usually say that he was talking to his brothers and sisters, but
    the bible clearly states that the next child is seth who isnt born until
    adam was 130. but lets use our brains for a second, cain needed a mark
    to show the other people that they shouldnt touch him. ? wouldnt have
    to do this if they were cains brother and sis because they would have
    heard the warning from ? and know to leave him alone.
    The earth being millionz/billionz of yearz old iz a white-man'z teachin there 4 it's ? , PERIOD!!!!
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rapluva wrote: »
    The earth being millionz/billionz of yearz old iz a white-man'z teachin there 4 it's ? , PERIOD!!!!

    Well Mr. Earth, tell us, how old is this earth? Since we are always being told lies, history and science is all wrong!!!

    GTFOHWTBS

    I cannot stand people like you who denounce all this ? and say, "Its the white mans lie!!"

    I swear, ? is ridiculous.
  • rapluva
    rapluva Members Posts: 232
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    VIBE86 wrote: »
    Well Mr. Earth, tell us, how old is this earth? Since we are always being told lies, history and science is all wrong!!!

    GTFOHWTBS

    I cannot stand people like you who denounce all this ? and say, "Its the white mans lie!!"

    I swear, ? is ridiculous.
    Just ova 7500 Yearz, do back-track research an u'll c it's the white-man (Masonz) that started that b.s. "Millionz/Billionz of yearz old ? !!
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
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    this isn't well-known, but adam was actually the first macho man

    nh
  • BiblicalAtheist
    BiblicalAtheist Members Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The mind of man started with one man, who then had thought to get himself a woman.

    The conscience started with the woman.