"A white male child of perfect innocence and intelligence makes the most suitable....

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bankrupt baller
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edited January 2011 in R & R (Religion and Race)
victim"
what do you think about this quote?
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  • Chike
    Chike Members Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    victim of what?
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  • bankrupt baller
    bankrupt baller Members Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Chike wrote: »
    victim of what?

    thats the quote...i didnt make it up...you tell me what you think
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  • 1of1
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    edited January 2011
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    Catholic Priest ? ? up in here
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  • bankrupt baller
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    mostvigorousone wrote: »
    Catholic Priest ? ? up in here

    thats what i was shootin for
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  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    what is the context of this quote?


    not that it really matters, i guess... but, it does make sense in that it definitely has a better chance of being a bigger media story.
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  • Chike
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    bankrupt baller wrote: »
    thats the quote...i didnt make it up...you tell me what you think



    The quote by itself means absolutely nothing to me.... It's irrelevant by itself.
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  • bankrupt baller
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    Chike wrote: »
    The quote by itself means absolutely nothing to me.... It's irrelevant by itself.

    gottcha...
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  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    I heard that quote somewhere before.....Im not sure where, but I think it was in a documentary. I know it was something evil behind it though.
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  • bankrupt baller
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    vboy513 wrote: »
    I heard that quote somewhere before.....Im not sure where, but I think it was in a documentary. I know it was something evil behind it though.

    yes the dude who said it was said to be evil
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    edited January 2011
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    Of for pete's sake, google the damn quote, apparently Aleister Crowley said it.
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  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    bankrupt baller wrote: »
    yes the dude who said it was evil

    *Fixed* I know who it was now. Im not going to say who though. But he had followers such as Helena Blavatsky......
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  • bankrupt baller
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    Of for pete's sake, google the damn quote, apparently Aleister Crowley said it.

    i know that lol.....im asking what people think about the quote
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  • BiblicalAtheist
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    bankrupt baller wrote: »
    i know that lol.....im asking what people think about the quote

    I know you knew, I was talking to the other people.

    As far as what I think about it, I think it's ? that he said it.
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  • bankrupt baller
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    BiblicalAtheist wrote: »
    I know you knew, I was talking to the other people.

    As far as what I think about it, I think it's ? that he said it.

    it makes sense if you think about it
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  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    bankrupt baller wrote: »
    it makes sense if you think about it

    Why do you think this.....???
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  • alissowack
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    I could be reading too much into it, but the quote seem to suggest a racial bias; that because of what being "white" represented...innocence. The mentality that because you are white, you are innocent.
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  • kingblaze84
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    Chike wrote: »
    The quote by itself means absolutely nothing to me.... It's irrelevant by itself.

    That's how I feel. Either way, white male childs haven't grown up to be victims for the most part......
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  • kingblaze84
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    alissowack wrote: »
    I could be reading too much into it, but the quote seem to suggest a racial bias; that because of what being "white" represented...innocence. The mentality that because you are white, you are innocent.

    Yeah I caught that too...since when have most white male children grown up to be innocent?
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  • fiat_money
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    What's "perfect intelligence"?
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  • whar67
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    alissowack wrote: »
    I could be reading too much into it, but the quote seem to suggest a racial bias; that because of what being "white" represented...innocence. The mentality that because you are white, you are innocent.

    The quote does not represent that since it states 'of perfect innocence'. This means a 'white male child' could range from pure evil to pure innocence but to choose the best 'sacrifice' to pull from the end of the pure innocence spectrum. What is racist and sexist about the quote is a black female is not as good a sacrifice even if she possesses the same traits of intellect and innocence as a white male.

    However this was not Crowley's intent. First off Crowley was a fraud. His shtick was to produce outrage and anger by mainstream americans and in turn appeal to growing counter culture of the time. He very specifically choose white male children as American was very 'white' and very patriarchal at the time. Females are often portrayed as victim in story and literature (the damsel in distress thing). We are 'comfortable' with those stories due to our familiarity with them, however swap in some WASP daddies first born son as the victim and it strikes a different cord. The quote was specifically crafted to rattle 'white' america's cage and it work quite well as people still take about Crowley to this day.

    *EDIT* Ignore this post. I got this crazy nut confused with Anton Levay, a different crazy nut.
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