Cam'ron - Swagger Jacker (Jay-Z Diss) ...Im not a writer.. Im a biter !!!

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Ear2DaSt
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Im not a writer ... Im a biter
This is a thread I got from somewhere else what are your thoughts? ...
https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A
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  • qawshun
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    tompetrez3 wrote: »
    Yall gotta admit he did steal alot of biggie rhymes

    He quoted a lot of biggie bars. A song is usually 32 you 48 bars so outta all that rap'n 44 bars were his. That jay a bitter argument is weak imo
  • qawshun
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    tompetrez3 wrote: »
    Yall gotta admit he did steal alot of biggie rhymes

    He quoted a lot of biggie bars. A song is usually 32 you 48 bars so outta all that rap'n 44 bars were his. That jay a bitter argument is weak imo
  • CeLLaR-DooR
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    Didn't understand what the problem was when this first came out, don't understand now.
  • DarthRozay
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    tompetrez3 wrote: »
    Yall gotta admit he did steal alot of biggie rhymes

    that just shows the strength of big's lyrics
  • BenjaminE
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    I remember Jay sayin he has to pay Biggie's estate everytime he does it and that's why he does it...
  • BedStuy
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    BenjaminE wrote: »
    I remember Jay sayin he has to pay Biggie's estate everytime he does it and that's why he does it...

    For as popular as jigga is and being from the same borough and friend of Biggie, it is the only acceptable reason to do it. I remember an old interview from the early 2000's Bumpy Knuckles did with HipHopGame.

    "A lot of these guys are going into the studio trying to sound like someone else. That's one of the biggest don't-do's in hip-hop. When I first started hearing rappers saying other people's rhymes, I knew hip-hop was going in the wrong direction. We used to beat ? up in the park for that ? . I used to hear so much Biggies quotes, it's disgusting.

    Do you buy the excuse that they're "paying tribute"?

    Man, listen. (laughs) How do you pay tribute to a ? by spitting his rhymes? That's not a tribute, that's biting. A lot of people say Biggie and 2Pac are the best rappers ever. This is some real ? . Sometimes people praise the dead to insult the living. They don't have the ? to say someone wasn't as good as Biggie. Who cares? Biggie was a don. He did what he did, but you do what you do. Why are you saying Biggie's rhymes? Biggie had his ? . 2Pac and Freaky Tah had their ? . They still got what they got, but it doesn't make any sense for people to take from their work. When we sample a record and chop a record up, we're good at that and that's publishing for them. You're not paying anybody for saying his rhymes. They're biting his whole verse and just chopping it into pieces, but nobody's hitting his mom or kids off."
  • themadlionsfan
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    Ear2DaSt wrote: »
    Im not a writer ... Im a biter
    This is a thread I got from somewhere else what are your thoughts? ...
    https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A

    Camron didn't even make this...he found it on the internet
  • Built 4 cuban linx
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    BedStuy wrote: »
    BenjaminE wrote: »
    I remember Jay sayin he has to pay Biggie's estate everytime he does it and that's why he does it...

    For as popular as jigga is and being from the same borough and friend of Biggie, it is the only acceptable reason to do it. I remember an old interview from the early 2000's Bumpy Knuckles did with HipHopGame.

    "A lot of these guys are going into the studio trying to sound like someone else. That's one of the biggest don't-do's in hip-hop. When I first started hearing rappers saying other people's rhymes, I knew hip-hop was going in the wrong direction. We used to beat ? up in the park for that ? . I used to hear so much Biggies quotes, it's disgusting.

    Do you buy the excuse that they're "paying tribute"?

    Man, listen. (laughs) How do you pay tribute to a ? by spitting his rhymes? That's not a tribute, that's biting. A lot of people say Biggie and 2Pac are the best rappers ever. This is some real ? . Sometimes people praise the dead to insult the living. They don't have the ? to say someone wasn't as good as Biggie. Who cares? Biggie was a don. He did what he did, but you do what you do. Why are you saying Biggie's rhymes? Biggie had his ? . 2Pac and Freaky Tah had their ? . They still got what they got, but it doesn't make any sense for people to take from their work. When we sample a record and chop a record up, we're good at that and that's publishing for them. You're not paying anybody for saying his rhymes. They're biting his whole verse and just chopping it into pieces, but nobody's hitting his mom or kids off."

    Biggie does get payed for that tho cause if you look in the album credits, he always gives big the writers credit or sampling credit
  • BedStuy
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    BedStuy wrote: »
    BenjaminE wrote: »
    I remember Jay sayin he has to pay Biggie's estate everytime he does it and that's why he does it...

    For as popular as jigga is and being from the same borough and friend of Biggie, it is the only acceptable reason to do it. I remember an old interview from the early 2000's Bumpy Knuckles did with HipHopGame.

    "A lot of these guys are going into the studio trying to sound like someone else. That's one of the biggest don't-do's in hip-hop. When I first started hearing rappers saying other people's rhymes, I knew hip-hop was going in the wrong direction. We used to beat ? up in the park for that ? . I used to hear so much Biggies quotes, it's disgusting.

    Do you buy the excuse that they're "paying tribute"?

    Man, listen. (laughs) How do you pay tribute to a ? by spitting his rhymes? That's not a tribute, that's biting. A lot of people say Biggie and 2Pac are the best rappers ever. This is some real ? . Sometimes people praise the dead to insult the living. They don't have the ? to say someone wasn't as good as Biggie. Who cares? Biggie was a don. He did what he did, but you do what you do. Why are you saying Biggie's rhymes? Biggie had his ? . 2Pac and Freaky Tah had their ? . They still got what they got, but it doesn't make any sense for people to take from their work. When we sample a record and chop a record up, we're good at that and that's publishing for them. You're not paying anybody for saying his rhymes. They're biting his whole verse and just chopping it into pieces, but nobody's hitting his mom or kids off."

    Biggie does get payed for that tho cause if you look in the album credits, he always gives big the writers credit or sampling credit
    I wasn't denying when i replied and posted other info.
  • Ear2DaSt
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    RickyRich wrote: »

    that man said you ugly dawg then starts laughing .... ahahahahha
  • Ear2DaSt
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    How can u be considered 1 of the greatest mcs if your material is copied

    to me that's worse then having a ghost writer

    yeah Jay-Z has a ghost writer all right his name is Big,Pac and Snoop ....
  • Built 4 cuban linx
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    BedStuy wrote: »
    BedStuy wrote: »
    BenjaminE wrote: »
    I remember Jay sayin he has to pay Biggie's estate everytime he does it and that's why he does it...

    For as popular as jigga is and being from the same borough and friend of Biggie, it is the only acceptable reason to do it. I remember an old interview from the early 2000's Bumpy Knuckles did with HipHopGame.

    "A lot of these guys are going into the studio trying to sound like someone else. That's one of the biggest don't-do's in hip-hop. When I first started hearing rappers saying other people's rhymes, I knew hip-hop was going in the wrong direction. We used to beat ? up in the park for that ? . I used to hear so much Biggies quotes, it's disgusting.

    Do you buy the excuse that they're "paying tribute"?

    Man, listen. (laughs) How do you pay tribute to a ? by spitting his rhymes? That's not a tribute, that's biting. A lot of people say Biggie and 2Pac are the best rappers ever. This is some real ? . Sometimes people praise the dead to insult the living. They don't have the ? to say someone wasn't as good as Biggie. Who cares? Biggie was a don. He did what he did, but you do what you do. Why are you saying Biggie's rhymes? Biggie had his ? . 2Pac and Freaky Tah had their ? . They still got what they got, but it doesn't make any sense for people to take from their work. When we sample a record and chop a record up, we're good at that and that's publishing for them. You're not paying anybody for saying his rhymes. They're biting his whole verse and just chopping it into pieces, but nobody's hitting his mom or kids off."

    Biggie does get payed for that tho cause if you look in the album credits, he always gives big the writers credit or sampling credit
    I wasn't denying when i replied and posted other info.

    I feel you, I'm just saying that about dudes comment. My response was mostly for him
  • Preach2Teach
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    Lol that video didn't even catch all the times Jay has bitten, I know there was at least one more he took from 2Pac.
  • Preach2Teach
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    On the "some people hate" song Jay started his verse with a Pac bite.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    wasnt there a Cam version to this also
  • Ear2DaSt
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    probably not only J-Z does all the biting
  • themadlionsfan
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    wasnt there a Cam version to this also

    yeah there was

    https://youtu.be/TmOQ8FDOLJg
  • Ear2DaSt
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    one thing i noticed is that they would only show where camron bit like 3 words while jay-z would bite the whole verse

    on top of that they threw juelz santanna in there and his biting

    that's not fair comparing 2 to 1
  • Ear2DaSt
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    Not only that Cam would switch it up but j-z would bite it word for word