Why Does U-? Get A Bad Rap?

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  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    Unrelated but here's Method Man interviewing U ?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ab-JWriW03E
  • Splackavelli
    Splackavelli Members Posts: 18,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    It's mainly because he's the one with the least amount of charisma

    Well he had charisma on this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJk0p-98Xzc

    Man how the hell did the Wu Tang pull off the whole Kung Fu Karate ? back then while being taken seriously?


    They the goat's lol

    I guess the lyrics overshadowed the gimmick.
  • 90's Era
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    I think it was just by default he was put at the bottom of the list of WU members.

    Which says alot about the group in terms of having dope MC's. Cause if u listen to some of the ? he be spitting he is far from WEAK as a rapper..

    But thats what happens when u run with the Dream Team.
    Somebody has to be Chris Mullin or Clyde Drexler status.And both them nigguhs in the hall.
    So aint no knock being at the bottom tier of the Wu..
  • Kairo
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    Broddie wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    It's mainly because he's the one with the least amount of charisma

    Well he had charisma on this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJk0p-98Xzc

    Man how the hell did the Wu Tang pull off the whole Kung Fu Karate ? back then while being taken seriously?


    They the goat's lol

    Everybody in the hood back then grew up on Shaw Bros. movies and comic books. Even my generation who was younger (1983 baby) and that was their whole style so it was easy. "Kicking rhymes like Jim Kelly" for instance you don't get that ? unless you remember old blaxploitation kung fu joints like Blackbelt Jones which we always used to watch in the saturday afternoon movie and vhs tape days.

    Jim Kelly was in Enter the Dragon fam cmon.
  • Nechesh358
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    U ? is the best singer in the Wu tho.

    https://youtu.be/GAJUewbNqR4
  • king hassan
    king hassan Members Posts: 22,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Broddie wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    It's mainly because he's the one with the least amount of charisma

    Well he had charisma on this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJk0p-98Xzc

    Man how the hell did the Wu Tang pull off the whole Kung Fu Karate ? back then while being taken seriously?


    They the goat's lol

    Everybody in the hood back then grew up on Shaw Bros. movies and comic books. Even my generation who was younger (1983 baby) and that was their whole style so it was easy. "Kicking rhymes like Jim Kelly" for instance you don't get that ? unless you remember old blaxploitation kung fu joints like Blackbelt Jones which we always used to watch in the saturday afternoon movie and vhs tape days.

    And the Wu members names came from actual kung fu movies and Characters
    Ghost Face Killa
    Method Man
    Old ? Bastard
    Golden Arms
    60 Second Assassin
    Masta Killer
    Liquid Swords was a movie
    Iron Flag was a movie
    Da Mystery of Chess Boxing was a movie
    Enter the 36 Chambers was a movie
    8 Diagrams was a movie,
    so they touched on nostalgia and we could relate to it.
  • king hassan
    king hassan Members Posts: 22,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kairo wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    It's mainly because he's the one with the least amount of charisma

    Well he had charisma on this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJk0p-98Xzc

    Man how the hell did the Wu Tang pull off the whole Kung Fu Karate ? back then while being taken seriously?


    They the goat's lol

    Everybody in the hood back then grew up on Shaw Bros. movies and comic books. Even my generation who was younger (1983 baby) and that was their whole style so it was easy. "Kicking rhymes like Jim Kelly" for instance you don't get that ? unless you remember old blaxploitation kung fu joints like Blackbelt Jones which we always used to watch in the saturday afternoon movie and vhs tape days.

    Jim Kelly was in Enter the Dragon fam cmon.

    Jim Kelly was in Black Belt Jones homie
  • THE_R_
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    Broddie wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    It's mainly because he's the one with the least amount of charisma

    Well he had charisma on this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJk0p-98Xzc

    Man how the hell did the Wu Tang pull off the whole Kung Fu Karate ? back then while being taken seriously?


    They the goat's lol

    Everybody in the hood back then grew up on Shaw Bros. movies and comic books. Even my generation who was younger (1983 baby) and that was their whole style so it was easy. "Kicking rhymes like Jim Kelly" for instance you don't get that ? unless you remember old blaxploitation kung fu joints like Blackbelt Jones which we always used to watch in the saturday afternoon movie and vhs tape days.

    And the Wu members names came from actual kung fu movies and Characters
    Ghost Face Killa
    Method Man
    Old ? Bastard
    Golden Arms
    60 Second Assassin
    Masta Killer
    Liquid Swords was a movie
    Iron Flag was a movie
    Da Mystery of Chess Boxing was a movie
    Enter the 36 Chambers was a movie
    8 Diagrams was a movie,
    so they touched on nostalgia and we could relate to it.

    SHAOLIN VS WU-TANG IS A MOVIE AS WELL

  • THE_R_
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    THE KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAV. KUNG-FU FLICKS.
    I BELIEVE THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED THE TOAD FROM DEADLY VENOMS PLAYED GOLDEN ARMS...
  • king hassan
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    THE KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAV. KUNG-FU FLICKS.
    I BELIEVE THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED THE TOAD FROM DEADLY VENOMS PLAYED GOLDEN ARMS...

    Yep, Lo Ming.He was part of the Venom Mob of Shaw Brothers. Known for being the strong built one and practicer of Mantis style
  • Broddie
    Broddie Members Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    THE KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAV. KUNG-FU FLICKS.
    I BELIEVE THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED THE TOAD FROM DEADLY VENOMS PLAYED GOLDEN ARMS...

    Members of the Venom Mob pretty much starred in all the Shaw Brothers productions.
  • king hassan
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    Broddie wrote: »
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    THE KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAV. KUNG-FU FLICKS.
    I BELIEVE THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED THE TOAD FROM DEADLY VENOMS PLAYED GOLDEN ARMS...

    Members of the Venom Mob pretty much starred in all the Shaw Brothers productions.

    Lo Ming was the only one in Super Ninja's and the dude that played the Snake wasn't in a lot of the mob movies. There are a few movies in which some of them are not in them.
  • Louis Devinear
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    THE KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAV. KUNG-FU FLICKS.
    I BELIEVE THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED THE TOAD FROM DEADLY VENOMS PLAYED GOLDEN ARMS...

    All the actors from 5 deadly venoms kept recurring roles in most of the sjae brothers movies.
  • Louis Devinear
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    Broddie wrote: »
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    THE KID WITH THE GOLDEN ARMS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAV. KUNG-FU FLICKS.
    I BELIEVE THE ACTOR THAT PLAYED THE TOAD FROM DEADLY VENOMS PLAYED GOLDEN ARMS...

    Members of the Venom Mob pretty much starred in all the Shaw Brothers productions.

    I should have kept reading.

    But you guys know exactly what you're speaking of.

    If it wasn't for the wu. That west coast grip would have been tighter
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    U ? always been dope to me. Never heard a bad verse. Never been a big fan of Cappadonna, but he aint terrible
  • lordstanley
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    I heard him spit some cringe worthy ? on a tim westwood freestyle awhile ago but I can't think of a wack u ? verse on a song right now..he usually goes in, just gets outshined alot
  • its....JOHN B
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    I think timing more than anything is the biggest reason, between 36 chambers and wu forever was the prime time for the members to drop their first solos, he didn’t drop till 99 and the Wu movement had cooled down the ruff Ryder’s and the roc had taken over the game by then, taking that long to come out made him look like a non priority amongst the members, if he came out in 94 his career could of went down a completely different path as long as the album delivered which everything Wu related in that time frame was
  • its....JOHN B
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    Same goes for Deck with his career getting side tracked because of the flood, by the time uncontrolled substance came out I won’t say no one cared but the buzz was minuscule compared to what it would have been in that 94-97 time frame, Uncontrolled substance is a good album but it’s forgotten about because he missed the train and his solo career went on to be lackluster, he doesn’t get the bad rap U-? does but if his career went another path not only could we be talking about him as the best in the Wu but I think we could be talking about him as one of the best in the game
  • gifted
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    U ? has some scene stealing verses on Wu joints- Chessboxing, impossible etc and also had an underrated debut in Redemption. Like RZA, his flow is unorthodox. And out of the group, he and Masta Killa as dope as they were, had to be ‘the weakest’ by default.
  • wAXed_poetic
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    This made me realize that some emcees can't just spit over any old beat
  • THE_R_
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    THAT IS ONE POORLY USED HYPHEN YO
  • rickmogul
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    Gets overshined and no memorable lines.
  • janklow
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    U ? is fine, but he is one of the weakest in the group.
    this.

    he's outshined by basically every other Wu member 90% of the time (not talking about all the random affiliates here), which makes him look a lot worse than he probably is.
  • grumpy_new_yorker
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    U-? is the only Wu-Tang member NOT to have a classic album.