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Arsenal, Arsene Wenger slammed by club legends Dixon, Petit, GrahamArsenal and manager Arsene Wenger are facing a barrage of criticism from club legends after seemingly falling out the Premier League title race with Sunday's 3-1 loss to Manchester City.
Former Gunners players Lee Dixon and Emmanuel Petit both took aim at Wenger's tactics and the team's stagnation under the long-time boss, while ex-manager George Graham vented his frustration with the club's board.
Graham told The Guardian in an interview that "there is no board at Arsenal" and that "nothing changes" despite the team's lack of success in the league.
It was a response to the club's recent annual general meeting, which ended in turmoil and boos from shareholders after chairman Sir Chips Keswick refused to answer questions from the floor.
"There are questions they're obviously not going to answer," Graham said. "I heard [chief executive Ivan] Gazidis say they were over-performing. Over-performing?"
The loss at City was Arsenal's fourth away defeat in the league this season and left them 12 points behind the runaway leaders in sixth place.
Graham, whose teams were known for their defensive tactics, also said the problem with the current Arsenal side is that they "have very poor defences now."
However, he added that Wenger himself has "been great for the English game, great for Arsenal."
Dixon, who won two Doubles under Wenger, was less charitable toward the manager, saying that Arsenal's problems are "unfixable" as long as he remains in charge.
"He has created an environment that doesn't really know what they're doing without the ball," Dixon told BBC Radio 5 Live, adding that Wenger's pressing tactics at the Etihad Stadium were totally inefficient. "Just running ? -nilly at the ball is a disaster against Man City."
Petit, who was part of Arsenal's 1998 Double-winning side, struck a similar note.
"At the moment, every time Arsenal have the ball, they are a danger to themselves, because as soon as they lose it, they look disorganised. There is no balance in this team -- they lack concentration," Petit told Paddy Power.
"The fault for this lies not just with the manager, but also with the players. They've been making simple mistakes and consequently allowing the opposition an easy ride. It has been a long time since I saw Arsenal play well from the first minute to the last -- this is surely down to a crisis of confidence among the squad.
"Arsenal's problems are mostly mental, not technical. Motivation is a major problem for several of Arsenal's players -- it's clear that they aren't always giving 100 percent out there. When the chips are down, several of them keep going missing. Sometimes talent wins you games, but sometimes spirit is also vital." -
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northside7 wrote: »Arsenal, Arsene Wenger slammed by club legends Dixon, Petit, GrahamArsenal and manager Arsene Wenger are facing a barrage of criticism from club legends after seemingly falling out the Premier League title race with Sunday's 3-1 loss to Manchester City.
Former Gunners players Lee Dixon and Emmanuel Petit both took aim at Wenger's tactics and the team's stagnation under the long-time boss, while ex-manager George Graham vented his frustration with the club's board.
Graham told The Guardian in an interview that "there is no board at Arsenal" and that "nothing changes" despite the team's lack of success in the league.
It was a response to the club's recent annual general meeting, which ended in turmoil and boos from shareholders after chairman Sir Chips Keswick refused to answer questions from the floor.
"There are questions they're obviously not going to answer," Graham said. "I heard [chief executive Ivan] Gazidis say they were over-performing. Over-performing?"
The loss at City was Arsenal's fourth away defeat in the league this season and left them 12 points behind the runaway leaders in sixth place.
Graham, whose teams were known for their defensive tactics, also said the problem with the current Arsenal side is that they "have very poor defences now."
However, he added that Wenger himself has "been great for the English game, great for Arsenal."
Dixon, who won two Doubles under Wenger, was less charitable toward the manager, saying that Arsenal's problems are "unfixable" as long as he remains in charge.
"He has created an environment that doesn't really know what they're doing without the ball," Dixon told BBC Radio 5 Live, adding that Wenger's pressing tactics at the Etihad Stadium were totally inefficient. "Just running ? -nilly at the ball is a disaster against Man City."
Petit, who was part of Arsenal's 1998 Double-winning side, struck a similar note.
"At the moment, every time Arsenal have the ball, they are a danger to themselves, because as soon as they lose it, they look disorganised. There is no balance in this team -- they lack concentration," Petit told Paddy Power.
"The fault for this lies not just with the manager, but also with the players. They've been making simple mistakes and consequently allowing the opposition an easy ride. It has been a long time since I saw Arsenal play well from the first minute to the last -- this is surely down to a crisis of confidence among the squad.
"Arsenal's problems are mostly mental, not technical. Motivation is a major problem for several of Arsenal's players -- it's clear that they aren't always giving 100 percent out there. When the chips are down, several of them keep going missing. Sometimes talent wins you games, but sometimes spirit is also vital."
Good. Arsenal are a joke from top to bottom these days. Good to see them getting aired out by the legends. -
Everton want Simeone.
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dontdiedontkillanyon wrote: »Everton want Simeone.
While I would like to see him in the Premier League I don't believe the feeling is mutual -
I said it before on here and I don't know why, but I think he would be a good manager for Arsenal when they fire Arsene
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Young_Chitlin wrote: »dontdiedontkillanyon wrote: »Everton want Simeone.
While I would like to see him in the Premier League I don't believe the feeling is mutual
Likely end up at Chelsea it would be strange -
Real Madrid could make a shock move for Juan Mata to take the Manchester United star back to the Bernabeu, according to the Express.
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Marseille are plotting a blockbuster move for Riyad Mahrez in January, with Algerian newspaper L'Expression claiming the Ligue 1 giants are ready to meet Leicester's €30m asking price.
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I think he ll go back to Inter....Serie A is slowly getting back on track...
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Would love him at Chelsea but Jose Conte all have a similar style and there seems to be a player attitude over that style we need to change the players or we are just repeating a broken formula
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Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice. -
northside7 wrote: »Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice.
Yes because your spoilt fans will appreciate defending lol
"Boring boring Chelsea" -
blue_london wrote: »northside7 wrote: »Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice.
Yes because your spoilt fans will appreciate defending lol
"Boring boring Chelsea"
Chelsea is the epitome of spoiled. Mourinho, Ancelotti, and now Conte. Help win the league and then sacked, sometimes twice.
Chelsea shouldn't even talk about appreciation either. -
northside7 wrote: »blue_london wrote: »northside7 wrote: »Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice.
Yes because your spoilt fans will appreciate defending lol
"Boring boring Chelsea"
Chelsea is the epitome of spoiled. Mourinho, Ancelotti, and now Conte. Help win the league and then sacked, sometimes twice.
Chelsea shouldn't even talk about appreciation either.
This coming from the guy who has being trying to run the GREAT Wenger out for years now, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
northside7 wrote: »blue_london wrote: »northside7 wrote: »Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice.
Yes because your spoilt fans will appreciate defending lol
"Boring boring Chelsea"
Chelsea is the epitome of spoiled. Mourinho, Ancelotti, and now Conte. Help win the league and then sacked, sometimes twice.
Chelsea shouldn't even talk about appreciation either.
This coming from the guy who has being trying to run the GREAT Wenger out for years now, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol the team that hates defending wants a defensive manager arsenal fans can't hate but contradict themselves. -
northside7 wrote: »blue_london wrote: »northside7 wrote: »Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice.
Yes because your spoilt fans will appreciate defending lol
"Boring boring Chelsea"
Chelsea is the epitome of spoiled. Mourinho, Ancelotti, and now Conte. Help win the league and then sacked, sometimes twice.
Chelsea shouldn't even talk about appreciation either.
This coming from the guy who has being trying to run the GREAT Wenger out for years now, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!blue_london wrote: »northside7 wrote: »blue_london wrote: »northside7 wrote: »Go to Chelsea? So you guys can run him out after two years? Foh.
The red & white of Arsenal would be the best choice.
Yes because your spoilt fans will appreciate defending lol
"Boring boring Chelsea"
Chelsea is the epitome of spoiled. Mourinho, Ancelotti, and now Conte. Help win the league and then sacked, sometimes twice.
Chelsea shouldn't even talk about appreciation either.
This coming from the guy who has being trying to run the GREAT Wenger out for years now, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol the team that hates defending wants a defensive manager arsenal fans can't hate but contradict themselves.
Typical nonsense response. -
Let's not forget Arsenal used to play defensively under George Graham. The 1-0 to the Arsenal days need to return. How is good defending ugly football? Smh.
Wenger took this club to another level between 96-08 but his chapter has been over for a while.
It's time for a new era. -
Young_Chitlin wrote: »Peruvian forward Paolo Guerrero suspended 30 days for doping, will not play versus New Zealand
Can’t keep away from that coca.
Sources tell me it was something related to allergies what he was taking -
Young_Chitlin wrote: »Young_Chitlin wrote: »Peruvian forward Paolo Guerrero suspended 30 days for doping, will not play versus New Zealand
Can’t keep away from that coca.
Sources tell me it was something related to allergies what he was taking
You might be right. New Zealand will be ready. Hope Peru ready for the challenge without him -
Young_Chitlin wrote: »Young_Chitlin wrote: »Peruvian forward Paolo Guerrero suspended 30 days for doping, will not play versus New Zealand
Can’t keep away from that coca.
Sources tell me it was something related to allergies what he was taking
You might be right. New Zealand will be ready. Hope Peru ready for the challenge without him
Three goals at Wellington and defend like hell and Lima -
Guess what a Belgian on international duty had just done ? Lol
They just can't help themselves
