HHDX: Why Haven't Hip Hop Mention Will Smith Aka The Fresh Prince As The GOAT?

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  • Turfaholic
    Turfaholic Members Posts: 20,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    TheGOAT wrote: »
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    Will was ahead of his time. The culture was in a gangster state when Big Willie Style dropped. I find myself playing Getting Jiggy With It & Just Cruisin alot in present day. Will is a GOAT based on hiphops first Grammy alone.

    Funny how ppl always pick & choose when Grammys are worth a damn

    Regardless of how people feel, a Grammy is the highest form of public recognition a artist can receive. Back then it was huge because hip-hop was fighting to be recognized as a form of music.
  • qawshun
    qawshun Members Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BobOblah wrote: »
    the GOAT? No wonder I forgot about HHDX

    They hate on a lot of good ?
  • water ur seeds
    water ur seeds Members Posts: 17,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith', for me his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...
  • 5 Grand
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    IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith' his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...

    Cosign about Jazzy Jeff

    Actually, their first two albums were legit. Their first album, Rock The House came out at a time where there weren't many rap albums at the time, so by default the college DJs played the hell out of it.

    The second album, He's The DJ I'm The Rapper came out in the spring of 88. There was a lot of competition that summer but Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane by that point. The were the Parent's Just Don't Understand and Nightmare on My Street, both novelty comedy songs at a time when Public Enemy and Stetsasonic were getting political, NWA and 2 Live Crew were getting censored and catching flack for their lyrics. Rakim, Kane and KRS were raising the bar for lyricism and groups like EPMD, The Jungle Brothers and De La Soul were raising the bar for sampling.

    So while all that was going on, Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane, thats why they worked. They didn't get political and they didn't curse on their records.

    Anyway, I'd recommend listening to their first two albums. I'd give the first album 4/5 and the second album 3.5/5.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHt_xoaSTXM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVApcHyWAaY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h28LERq5fY
  • Stomp Johnson
    Stomp Johnson Members, Writer Posts: 3,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    IMO Fresh Prince had the GOAT DJ which helped haha... He could rhyme, be funny and tell stories and then he became 'Will Smith' his first two albums were dope, especially BWS, when I was a kid I used to rinse that album...

    Cosign about Jazzy Jeff

    Actually, their first two albums were legit. Their first album, Rock The House came out at a time where there weren't many rap albums at the time, so by default the college DJs played the hell out of it.

    The second album, He's The DJ I'm The Rapper came out in the spring of 88. There was a lot of competition that summer but Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane by that point. The were the Parent's Just Don't Understand and Nightmare on My Street, both novelty comedy songs at a time when Public Enemy and Stetsasonic were getting political, NWA and 2 Live Crew were getting censored and catching flack for their lyrics. Rakim, Kane and KRS were raising the bar for lyricism and groups like EPMD, The Jungle Brothers and De La Soul were raising the bar for sampling.

    So while all that was going on, Fresh Prince & Jazzy Jeff had their own lane, thats why they worked. They didn't get political and they didn't curse on their records.

    Anyway, I'd recommend listening to their first two albums. I'd give the first album 4/5 and the second album 3.5/5.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHt_xoaSTXM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVApcHyWAaY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h28LERq5fY

    Good post
  • nujerz84
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    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.
  • Matike85
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    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince
  • gee757
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    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    I don't believe him.......
  • 5th Letter
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    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?
  • blackgod813
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

    Are u sure
  • blackgod813
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    Will smith was just bigger than rap he is a star the likes few will attain
  • MasterJayN100
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    I like Summertime and Parents just dont understand
  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

    Are u sure

    Watch the video bruh.... Case Closed
  • gee757
    gee757 Members Posts: 26,374
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    So now will don't have GHOSTWRITERS???? Wtf
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 Members Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Matike85 wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?
    5th Letter wrote: »
    Matike85 wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    To the nerds hitting me wit negs just like Drake will can never b a goat cuz he got GHOSTWRITERS!
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    He had ghost writers once he went hollywood.

    Did y'all watch the video?... Murs denounce the ghostwriter allegations about Will Smith aka Fresh Prince

    So Nas didn't write Miami and Rakim didn't write Summertime?

    Are u sure

    Watch the video bruh.... Case Closed

    Where in video did he say it im not sitting thru 14 minutes
  • blackgod813
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    I love will smith he bigger than hip hop he a light denzel
  • Weazel
    Weazel Members Posts: 3,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Icon?, legend?, yes
    GOAT?, nope
  • Plutarch
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    Dude is a "goat," but I like "Fresh Prince" more than I like "Will Smith," and yes, DJ Jazzy Jeff is that dude. His work is not limited to Smith.

  • 5 Grand
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    He may not be the GOAT but him and Dj Jazzy Jeff Deserve a spot in the Hall Of Fame

    You could make a strong argument that Jazzy Jeff is the Greatest DJ Of All Time.
  • Lefty_
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    So we actin like broadstreet bully beans ain’t more talented than black thought? ? has the charisma of a Toyota Corolla.
  • Soloman_The_Wise
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    5th Letter wrote: »
    The goat of what?

    Safe for old white People rapping...