Michael Irvin Says He Was Happiest Playing Football In College Because He Was Broke
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black caesar wrote: »College athletes need to be getting paid.
They get a free education.
Four years in college (especially a University) can cost over $100k.
I don't have any problem with a college student getting 4 free years of college in exchange for playing football in front of 80,000 people every week for a semester.
I just feel sorry for the players that don't take their schoolwork seriously and don't graduate...or make it to the NFL. -
playboy buddy rose wrote: »playboy buddy rose wrote: »Tha only people he owe is his kids, ma dukes & pops
Kids don't owe their parents ? !!!
You a cold hearted brotha ta make a statement like that
he’s right!?
what do we “owe” our parents!?
we didnt ask to be here..
they asked US to be here..
they welcome.
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“mannn yo parents fed u houses u clothed u..”
ummm.. thats what they were SUPPOSE to do. -
^^^^good point
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Because once they go down, then what? The school leaves a lot of these players high and dry.black caesar wrote: »College athletes need to be getting paid.
They get a free education.
Four years in college (especially a University) can cost over $100k.
I don't have any problem with a college student getting 4 free years of college in exchange for playing football in front of 80,000 people every week for a semester.
I just feel sorry for the players that don't take their schoolwork seriously and don't graduate...or make it to the NFL.
They SHOULD be getting paid, knowing the schools get HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS off of ticket sales, merchandising, TV rights, and recruitment funds, especially if schools have Heisman winners.
I don't think it should be a lot, but a stipend scale based on credit hours (or years in school) should be instituted:
Based on a 12-week semester:
0-29 credits (freshmen): up to $1,500 per semester, or $125/week
30-59 credits (sophmore): up to $2,400 per semester, or $200/week
60-89 credits (freshmen): up to $3,600 per semester, or $300/week
90-119 credits (senior): up to $4,200 per semester, or $350/week
120+ credits (5th yr): up to $4,800 per semester, or $400/week
This is fair. Not enough that they can "ball out" on, but more than enough to where students can have some spending money. -
Lol @ your parents didn't do you no favors
I agree and disagree at the same time -
That explains everything and nothing at the same time thank you
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Because once they go down, then what? The school leaves a lot of these players high and dry.black caesar wrote: »College athletes need to be getting paid.
They get a free education.
Four years in college (especially a University) can cost over $100k.
I don't have any problem with a college student getting 4 free years of college in exchange for playing football in front of 80,000 people every week for a semester.
I just feel sorry for the players that don't take their schoolwork seriously and don't graduate...or make it to the NFL.
They SHOULD be getting paid, knowing the schools get HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS off of ticket sales, merchandising, TV rights, and recruitment funds, especially if schools have Heisman winners.
I don't think it should be a lot, but a stipend scale based on credit hours (or years in school) should be instituted:
Based on a 12-week semester:
0-29 credits (freshmen): up to $1,500 per semester, or $125/week
30-59 credits (sophmore): up to $2,400 per semester, or $200/week
60-89 credits (freshmen): up to $3,600 per semester, or $300/week
90-119 credits (senior): up to $4,200 per semester, or $350/week
120+ credits (5th yr): up to $4,800 per semester, or $400/week
This is fair. Not enough that they can "ball out" on, but more than enough to where students can have some spending money.
I'm pretty sure they get meal cards, off campus housing and free books in addition to free tuition.
Throw in some student loans and government grants and they're living just as good as some rich kid with a trust fund. -
I’m just as guilty a lot of the times but people don’t understand the gift/curse that comes with being fortunate
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northside7 wrote: »playboy buddy rose wrote: »Tha only people he owe is his kids, ma dukes & pops
Kids don't owe their parents ? !!!
You're not going to take care of your parents if their sick or need your help?
This a horrible ? question which has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. I'll answer it though just for conversation of it all.
YES, I would absolutely help my mother is she needed my help or take care of her if she was sick BUT...... I would do those things because I respect and love her. I would NEVER do that ? cause I owed her.
Like I said kids don't owe their parents ? !
I do ? for people cause I love and respect them. I don't ? with people who feel like if I do something for them or they do something for me I owe them or they owe me.
I say that because whatever is being done isn't genuine its some quid pro quo ? and when it comes to personal relationships I don't and can't rock like that for myself or rock with people who feel like that. -
playboy buddy rose wrote: »playboy buddy rose wrote: »Tha only people he owe is his kids, ma dukes & pops
Kids don't owe their parents ? !!!
You a cold hearted brotha ta make a statement like that
No I'm not when it comes to this ? here.
If I had millions would I look out for my folks hell yes thats not even question to be asked BUT I ain't looking out for my folks because I owe them cause I absolutely 100% don't owe my parents a muthafucking thing!!! -
playboy buddy rose wrote: »playboy buddy rose wrote: »Tha only people he owe is his kids, ma dukes & pops
Kids don't owe their parents ? !!!
You a cold hearted brotha ta make a statement like that
he’s right!?
what do we “owe” our parents!?
we didnt ask to be here..
they asked US to be here..
they welcome.“mannn yo parents fed u houses u clothed u..”
ummm.. thats what they were SUPPOSE to do.
Exactly!!!!
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playboy buddy rose wrote: »Tha only people he owe is his kids, ma dukes & pops
Kids don't owe their parents ? !!!
Insanity... -
“mannn yo parents fed u houses u clothed u..”
ummm.. thats what they were SUPPOSE to do.
Lies. They could have dropped that ass off at a foster home and let some one else do it. -
playboy buddy rose wrote: »playboy buddy rose wrote: »Tha only people he owe is his kids, ma dukes & pops
Kids don't owe their parents ? !!!
You a cold hearted brotha ta make a statement like that
he’s right!?
what do we “owe” our parents!?
we didnt ask to be here..
they asked US to be here..
they welcome.
Your pops shot a million plus joints and you fought like hell to be here. Your moms and pops probably asked for a 6'8 260 pound monster who could jump out the gym, and go on to become a gazillionaire. -
Easier said than done
If i was one of those NBA/NFL mutants i would
•Buy a house cash
•Three cars at a time - one to ride around, one to stunt, one for Mrs.
Lease them, car values aint ?
•Buy your parent/s a crib in a good neighbourhood, they dont need a million dollar house they cant upkeep
•? cousins, uncles, aunts - they can fend for themselves
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College life + Miami + being a star athlete
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? really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are ? and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.
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I gotta admit I agree with Irving on this one my people. Much too often as family members we feel our siblings who are successful hold a responsibility to help raise us up solely because of bloodline ties and or family ties, see this what he said is so very real to me is very hurtful but necessary for success listen: (My brothers and sisters, they're all grown. I'm like: 'You guys are grown.' Now I don't mind, I do what I can for all my nieces and nephews. I consider that to be an investment, what I give to them. But I consider it to be throwing money away now when I give to my brothers and sisters. I'm like: "Hey, this is spending money on the past. You guys, your future is set.) Yo this man means no offense I honestly put myself in the shoes of one of his siblings and fall back and say to myself yo this is true! There is nothing like independence no matter how small it may seem in the eyes of the person gaining it and that independence I mean it in all aspects. This is the message he is really trying to give his family! Don’t depend on me because I made it. You are grown keep fighting! But let’s invest in our children they are our future they are the future of this Nation and is true yo. I can go on but this statement he made right there was enough for me.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »? really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are ? and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.
"aren't entitled" means they aren't "owed" correct??!
if so what are we talking about here?? -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »? really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are ? and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.
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i hear all yall.....but having money changes the game for you.
either you gotta cut off alot of people or be prepared to always have to fight an not feel welcomed if you aint giving. -
I find it hard to believe that Irvin' s family are the only ones to approach him for money. It seems like he has a grudge against someone in particular and he's taking it to the public.
I come from a close family. They need it, I got it, they can have it. They don't have to earn my support. That's how family is supposed to work. -
2stepz_ahead wrote: »i hear all yall.....but having money changes the game for you.
either you gotta cut off alot of people or be prepared to always have to fight an not feel welcomed if you aint giving.
The game only changes if you change the game. If, you were giving before the extra dollars you will continue to do so afterwards. People who give, do so despite their economic situation. What Mike seems to be describing is, he wasn't a giving person before he came into money so, it's become a burden because, it's not inherent. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »? really in here saying kids don't owe their parents anything? I mean if your parents are ? and didn't do anything for you I guess that's true. But if they were in your life and took care of you, they earned whatever you can do for them. They aren't entitled to anything of course because being a parent was their choice, but they deserve it.
"aren't entitled" means they aren't "owed" correct??!
if so what are we talking about here??
You can owe someone without being obligated to pay them back If you ask to borrow $5 dollars from a friend, you technically owe that friend $5. That doesn't entitled your friend to take $5 from you wallet the next time he's at your house.
If you have good parents, they do a lot for you, in many cases going above and beyond what is necessary to simply raise you to adulthood. That puts you in their debt, but it's not some debt where you are contractually obligated to pay them back, so they aren't entitled to anything from you if you choose not to give it.
