"I Was Scared Of Prodigy" Diddy Talks Mobb Deep Bringing Guns to My Studio

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Mobb Deep packin heat ...
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  • gee757
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    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g
  • 5 Grand
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    gee757 wrote: »
    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g

    ^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

    Edit.

    Comparing Biggie to ? is absurd.

    LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.
  • Revolver Ocelot
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    edited November 2017
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    Somebody had 5 to many cups of that new Ciroc
  • KamPushMe
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    Sure the ? who setup multiple ? deaths is afraid of a ? ballerina
  • gee757
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g

    ^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

    Edit.

    Comparing Biggie to ? is absurd.

    LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.

    Plz.,.....2pac made perfect sense & the deathrow east strategy was going to work & getting Kat's like Wu Tang on board would've been eazy Especially after makaveli gave ? rza chain back.......big was like ? claiming king & anybody not following suit was getting blked balled by puff & suge& 2pac & deathrow east was gonna crush that weak regime bad boy & take over the east.....the mobb would've been down like Nas eventually u hear how they was speaking days after pac got killed on hot97 n 96...

    https://youtu.be/czGTdztK6hc
  • 5 Grand
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    gee757 wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g

    ^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

    Edit.

    Comparing Biggie to ? is absurd.

    LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.

    Plz.,.....2pac made perfect sense & the deathrow east strategy was going to work & getting Kat's like Wu Tang on board would've been eazy Especially after makaveli gave ? rza chain back.......big was like ? claiming king & anybody not following suit was getting blked balled by puff & suge& 2pac & deathrow east was gonna crush that weak regime bad boy & take over the east.....the mobb would've been down like Nas eventually u hear how they was speaking days after pac got killed on hot97 n 96...

    https://youtu.be/czGTdztK6hc

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  • CashmoneyDux
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    Lmao same reason he fired 50
  • The Lonious Monk
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g

    ^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

    Edit.

    Comparing Biggie to ? is absurd.

    LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.

    What strategy did you want to hear? Most of the interview was actually about the beef itself and where it came from. Past that, he did talking about recruiting talent from the East and building up the brand. Everything he said made sense.
  • 5 Grand
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g

    ^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

    Edit.

    Comparing Biggie to ? is absurd.

    LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.

    What strategy did you want to hear? Most of the interview was actually about the beef itself and where it came from. Past that, he did talking about recruiting talent from the East and building up the brand. Everything he said made sense.

    It's debatable if everything he made sense (i.e. comparing Biggie to ? ) but he didn't accomplish anything he said he was going to do. He was all talk and zero results.

    If we're making comparisons, 2Pac was like Malcolm X while Jay-Z and Puff Daddy were like Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm X was all talk but in the end he didn't really do anything besides give speeches. Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammed yielded tangible results that you could see with the naked eye.

    Martin Luther King led the Montgomery bus boycott and was the most visible and vocal of the civil rights movement and in addition to being the keynote speaker at the March on Washington, he worked with President Lyndon B Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

    Elijah Muhammad was the leader of the Nation Of Islam and oversaw the growth of the NOI from 1934-1975. At the time of his death there were over 75 NOI temples in every major city in America. Each one of those temples was a cell that supported schools, bakeries and a newspaper.

    Malcolm X talked a good game, but he didn't produce any tangible results. Thats how I feel about 2Pac, he talked a good game, but he didn't have a plan of action to make his ideas manifest. Getting rappers together to squash the East/West beef was a great idea, but Pac was all ideas and zero execution. If anything 2Pac set an example of how NOT to be a leader. If you claim to be a general you can't spit at cameras and jump people in a casino... especially when you're out on bail.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.
  • 5 Grand
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    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

    We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills
  • The Lonious Monk
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

    We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

    MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.
  • 5 Grand
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

    We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

    MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

    But that's not what hapenned.
  • gee757
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    gee757 wrote: »
    No surprise.....a eastcoast Kat like treach said puffy & biggie was scared too def2 come out they hotel rm too party cuz suge & pac had them like shook1s n 96 wit no guns just straight WORDS...
    https://youtu.be/aa9JfPCP_-g

    ^^^ All rhetoric and no strategy

    Edit.

    Comparing Biggie to ? is absurd.

    LOL @ being a general when he was signed to Suge/Death Row.

    What strategy did you want to hear? Most of the interview was actually about the beef itself and where it came from. Past that, he did talking about recruiting talent from the East and building up the brand. Everything he said made sense.

    It's debatable if everything he made sense (i.e. comparing Biggie to ? ) but he didn't accomplish anything he said he was going to do. He was all talk and zero results.

    If we're making comparisons, 2Pac was like Malcolm X while Jay-Z and Puff Daddy were like Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm X was all talk but in the end he didn't really do anything besides give speeches. Martin Luther King and Elijah Muhammed yielded tangible results that you could see with the naked eye.

    Martin Luther King led the Montgomery bus boycott and was the most visible and vocal of the civil rights movement and in addition to being the keynote speaker at the March on Washington, he worked with President Lyndon B Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

    Elijah Muhammad was the leader of the Nation Of Islam and oversaw the growth of the NOI from 1934-1975. At the time of his death there were over 75 NOI temples in every major city in America. Each one of those temples was a cell that supported schools, bakeries and a newspaper.

    Malcolm X talked a good game, but he didn't produce any tangible results. Thats how I feel about 2Pac, he talked a good game, but he didn't have a plan of action to make his ideas manifest. Getting rappers together to squash the East/West beef was a great idea, but Pac was all ideas and zero execution. If anything 2Pac set an example of how NOT to be a leader. If you claim to be a general you can't spit at cameras and jump people in a casino... especially when you're out on bail.

    https://youtu.be/pTDgvFrUk_U

    ^ that video makes u look foolish........2pac was on his way to b the king of NY n 96 wit deathrow east wit suge & Eric b standing behind him 9/4/96 n ny & he explained that.... ..2pac already had eastcoast ny ogs like big daddy Kane, melle mel & Scorpio dissing biggie repping 1nation/deathrow east......2pac gave rza chain back2 method man so it would be peace between deathrow & Wu Tang & the deathrow east ? was going to follow.....I understand u hate the row & pac but n 96 deathrow was murdering bad boy so bad puffy was calling 1 of the deathrow east ogs n ny crying asking unk y r y'all(deathrow east) embarrassing us(bad boy) cuz they r from ny & unk hung the phone up on puff word 2 Gene deal...
  • 5 Grand
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

    We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

    MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

    But that's not what hapenned.

    What exactly is your point? You're criticizing Pac as if he was an ineffectual person and ignoring the fact that it was his death not his lack of drive or effectiveness that prevented him from accomplishing his goals.
  • Brian B.
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    Idk why yall argue with 5grand that ? crazy


    5 Grand wrote: »
    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.


    lmao.gif

  • SheerExcellence
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    The best change Pac could bring about will be as the spark to the person that uses his positive message to inspire him to help effective positive change in not only the community, but the world, as a whole.

  • a_list
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    5 Will Not Lose....lol
  • The Lonious Monk
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

    We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

    MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

    But that's not what hapenned.

    What exactly is your point? You're criticizing Pac as if he was an ineffectual person and ignoring the fact that it was his death not his lack of drive or effectiveness that prevented him from accomplishing his goals.

    My point is that @gee757 posted a link of 2Pac comparing Biggie to ? . That is a ridiculous comparison and further explains how 2Pac was demented and out of touch with reality.

    All the Pac stans say the exact same thing in every thread that mentions him, they say, "Pac was going to do this" or "Pac was going to do that" or "If Pac did what he said he was going to do then he would have made a bigger impact than ? " or "If only Pac did this instead of that" or "Pac would have done this and that" and my personal favorite, "If Pac started Death Row East with Eric B they would have been like Bad Boy, No Limit and Def Jam combined".

    Its the same hypotheticals in every thread, "If this had happened then this and that would have happened".

    The reality is that he was out on bail and jumped Orlando Anderson in the casino. If he didn't get shot and killed he would have gone to prison for violating the terms of his bail. Thats what would have happened.

    Again, to me the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It was inflammatory and unnecessary to make his point, but it wasn't ridiculous IMO.

    And I see what you're saying about the hypotheticals. No one knows what he would have accomplished had he not died. But it's still unfair to paint him as someone who could get things done while ignoring the fact that an untimely death is a large part of the reason he failed. Now if you want to make the argument that his actions may be responsible for that death and his recklessness always would have interfered with his ability to get things done, there is probably merit to that.
  • Karl.
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    So Diddy is a halfway crook?
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    lol 2Pac died though. You can't say the man didn't do anything without acknowledging that he got killed in the midst of trying to get things done.

    And the Biggie/? comparison made sense. It might have been unnecessarily inflammatory, but all he was really saying was that Biggie came at a time when rappers in NYC were looking for someone to blame for their lack of success and Bad Boy scapegoated the West Coast. I don't know if they actually did that, but Pac believed they did, and that behavior is analogous to what ? did with the Jews in Germany.

    Martin Luther King died too.
    Abraham Lincoln died.
    Jesus died.

    You can't use the excuse that "he died" which is why he didn't accomplish what he set out to do.

    We've been over this a million times. Pac was out on bail when he jumped Orlando Anderson. He would have been in the same shoes as Meek Mills

    MLK died after the Civil Rights movement act was passed. Lincoln died after the Union was restored. Jesus died after he had picked his disciples and delivered the gospel. Pac was still in the process of trying to get that movement going. If any of those people you mentioned had died in the middle of the struggles they had taken on, the argument you're making against Pac would have just as easily applied to them.

    But that's not what hapenned.

    What exactly is your point? You're criticizing Pac as if he was an ineffectual person and ignoring the fact that it was his death not his lack of drive or effectiveness that prevented him from accomplishing his goals.

    My point is that @gee757 posted a link of 2Pac comparing Biggie to ? . That is a ridiculous comparison and further explains how 2Pac was demented and out of touch with reality.

    All the Pac stans say the exact same thing in every thread that mentions him, they say, "Pac was going to do this" or "Pac was going to do that" or "If Pac did what he said he was going to do then he would have made a bigger impact than ? " or "If only Pac did this instead of that" or "Pac would have done this and that" and my personal favorite, "If Pac started Death Row East with Eric B they would have been like Bad Boy, No Limit and Def Jam combined".

    Its the same hypotheticals in every thread, "If this had happened then this and that would have happened".

    The reality is that he was out on bail and jumped Orlando Anderson in the casino. If he didn't get shot and killed he would have gone to prison for violating the terms of his bail. Thats what would have happened.

    A lot of people miss this. Pac would have went to prison with Suge and came out and fell off.
  • achewon87
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    Puff frontin'...

    From P's book...

    ".. a fight broke out between this crew the Young Guns from Mount Vernon and some other guys. Puff was visibly upset that they’d broken up his party, screaming and yelling from behind a few bodyguards who had guns out. We left and went home..."