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  • JLacey
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    Mastery wrote: »
    If rigo gets dominated alot of so called boxing experts will be embarrassed

    No they won't. Most boxing experts are picking Lomachenko to win (rightfully so). He holds most of the advantages here. If Loma loses, then you can say those boxing experts are going to be embarrased. Rigo is a 3-1 underdog for a reason.

    Every person that has anything to do with boxing that I’ve seen says it’s a 50/50 fight but the odds are 3-1. Doesn’t make sense.
  • playmaker88
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    Doesnt matter who gets beat its not and indictment on who they are their pedigree, their accolades are anything of that sort. the winner will get all the praise he deserves

    @Elzo69Renaissance care to wager.. im tryin to take sweaters off your lil dog b

    $25 ... and a $25 ko sweetner
  • playmaker88
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    JLacey wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    If rigo gets dominated alot of so called boxing experts will be embarrassed

    No they won't. Most boxing experts are picking Lomachenko to win (rightfully so). He holds most of the advantages here. If Loma loses, then you can say those boxing experts are going to be embarrased. Rigo is a 3-1 underdog for a reason.

    Every person that has anything to do with boxing that I’ve seen says it’s a 50/50 fight but the odds are 3-1. Doesn’t make sense.

    The Odds are the odds thats totally independent of whats what.. there are marrying factors but a big factor is the name recognition its as close to a pickem fight.. as you can get
  • OmegaConflict
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    Mastery wrote: »
    If rigo gets dominated alot of so called boxing experts will be embarrassed

    No they won't. Most boxing experts are picking Lomachenko to win (rightfully so). He holds most of the advantages here. If Loma loses, then you can say those boxing experts are going to be embarrased. Rigo is a 3-1 underdog for a reason.

    Im seeing alot of Rigo praise, its been this way before the fight was announced. Everyone ducking rigo. Yea Rigodeaux is gonna get his ass whipped
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    Doesnt matter who gets beat its not and indictment on who they are their pedigree, their accolades are anything of that sort. the winner will get all the praise he deserves

    @Elzo69Renaissance care to wager.. im tryin to take sweaters off your lil dog b

    $25 ... and a $25 ko sweetner

    Who u got
  • farris2k1
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    Rigo's the older guy, smaller guy, less activity over the last few years, not the one being hyped by so-called experts as P4P, and ultimately Bob Arum's cash-cow aka Pacquiao 2.0
    Right, arum did an interview on mike and mike before his last fight and compared dude to ali..i know he tryna hype his fighter but that ? was ?

  • playmaker88
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    I got Lomachenko
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    I got Lomachenko

    25 then? Bet
  • JLacey
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    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work
  • Valentinez A. Kaiser
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    WAR RIGO!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSw_jYFXplw

    Body punches in the early rounds....BOOM!
  • playmaker88
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    I got Lomachenko

    25 then? Bet

    and 25 for a knock out its a deal @Elzo69Renaissance @pathos just pay me now i need to reup my fanduel
  • playmaker88
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    JLacey wrote: »
    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work

    why bother
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    I got Lomachenko

    25 then? Bet

    and 25 for a knock out its a deal @Elzo69Renaissance @pathos just pay me now i need to reup my fanduel

    Aite
  • Mastery
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    JLacey wrote: »
    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work

    Josa Ramirez
    Orlando Salido (L)
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Suriyah Tatakuhn
    Gamalier Rodriguez
    Romulo Koasicha
    Roman Martinez
    Nicholas Walters
    Jason Sosa (who a washed Gamboa just beat)
    Miguel Marriaga

    You call that putting in work ? ? Smmfh. His skills are undeniable, but his resume?

    Same with Rigondeaux. His skills are undeniable but his resume isn't all that either.

    We both KNOW Rigo been getting ducked for YEARS as he offers too much risk and little reward.

    To answer your question though, a victory over Rigondeaux will def help Loma's case for P4P supremacy. Idk if it's number 1, but he should be in the discussion. Crawford has made a better case for #1 imo.

    Same question to you. If Rigo win, is he in the discussion for #1 P4P?

    @JLacey
  • Mastery
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    @playmaker88

    What are your thoughts?
  • Mastery
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    Mastery wrote: »
    If rigo gets dominated alot of so called boxing experts will be embarrassed

    No they won't. Most boxing experts are picking Lomachenko to win (rightfully so). He holds most of the advantages here. If Loma loses, then you can say those boxing experts are going to be embarrased. Rigo is a 3-1 underdog for a reason.

    Im seeing alot of Rigo praise, its been this way before the fight was announced. Everyone ducking rigo. Yea Rigodeaux is gonna get his ass whipped

    People ducking Rigo is facts though.
  • playmaker88
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    I think they both have a case.. i mean if you speaking resume in volume of course not but if your talking resume in quality and execution which trumps volume. then on top of that they are fighting each other ...
  • Mastery
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    “He’s 37 years old and this weight, it’s not like heavyweight,” Lomachenko explained. “It’s not like (Bernard) Hopkins at middleweight. When you fight at heavyweight like George Foreman, you can have just experience and one-shot power. You can fight long.

    “But if you fight at a small weight category. after 30 years, your speed, your reaction (time) slow down and you can’t stay focused at 35 years, 36 years. You think you can do, but you can’t. It’s nature. You can’t use the same speed like you used it 10 years ago. So we’ll see.”

    https://www.ringtv.com/523219-vasyl-lomachenko-guillermo-rigondeaux-wanted-fight-careers-finished/

    I know he speaking facts, but I don't think Loma should go in there expecting Rigo to be slow.
  • dwade206
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    JLacey wrote: »
    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work

    Put in work with 9 victories? Yeah aight
  • JLacey
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    Mastery wrote: »
    JLacey wrote: »
    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work

    Josa Ramirez
    Orlando Salido (L)
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Suriyah Tatakuhn
    Gamalier Rodriguez
    Romulo Koasicha
    Roman Martinez
    Nicholas Walters
    Jason Sosa (who a washed Gamboa just beat)
    Miguel Marriaga

    You call that putting in work ? ? Smmfh. His skills are undeniable, but his resume?

    Same with Rigondeaux. His skills are undeniable but his resume isn't all that either.

    We both KNOW Rigo been getting ducked for YEARS as he offers too much risk and little reward.

    To answer your question though, a victory over Rigondeaux will def help Loma's case for P4P supremacy. Idk if it's number 1, but he should be in the discussion. Crawford has made a better case for #1 imo.

    Same question to you. If Rigo win, is he in the discussion for #1 P4P?

    @JLacey

    Same Walters that beat Donaire. Walters was good. Gary Russell jr is a great win. He just fought salido too early. ? don’t fight championship level fights that soon. His resume is better than Rigo’s. But yeah i think Rigo is if he wins tonight. How can ? say this probably the best boxing match skill wise and not say the winner at least in consideration for p4p number 1
  • playmaker88
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    @Mastery Gamboa didn't "Win"
  • JLacey
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    Martinez is competition too and you see what he did to him. He’s fought the names that are at his weight at the time
  • Mastery
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    JLacey wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    JLacey wrote: »
    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work

    Josa Ramirez
    Orlando Salido (L)
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Suriyah Tatakuhn
    Gamalier Rodriguez
    Romulo Koasicha
    Roman Martinez
    Nicholas Walters
    Jason Sosa (who a washed Gamboa just beat)
    Miguel Marriaga

    You call that putting in work ? ? Smmfh. His skills are undeniable, but his resume?

    Same with Rigondeaux. His skills are undeniable but his resume isn't all that either.

    We both KNOW Rigo been getting ducked for YEARS as he offers too much risk and little reward.

    To answer your question though, a victory over Rigondeaux will def help Loma's case for P4P supremacy. Idk if it's number 1, but he should be in the discussion. Crawford has made a better case for #1 imo.

    Same question to you. If Rigo win, is he in the discussion for #1 P4P?

    @JLacey

    Same Walters that beat Donaire. Walters was good. Gary Russell jr is a great win. He just fought salido too early. ? don’t fight championship level fights that soon. His resume is better than Rigo’s. But yeah i think Rigo is if he wins tonight. How can ? say this probably the best boxing match skill wise and not say the winner at least in consideration for p4p number 1
    Who said Loma wasn't in the discussion?
  • JLacey
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    Rigo's the older guy, smaller guy, less activity over the last few years, not the one being hyped by so-called experts as P4P, and ultimately Bob Arum's cash-cow aka Pacquiao 2.0
    Lol whoever that is and all y’all discredit all his wins like he not fighting pretty much the best he can get at the weight he’s at
  • JLacey
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    Mastery wrote: »
    JLacey wrote: »
    Mastery wrote: »
    JLacey wrote: »
    So if he stops Rigo tonight he’s not in the number 1 p4p discussion? It’s well deserved hype. Y’all talking like Loma hasn’t put in the work

    Josa Ramirez
    Orlando Salido (L)
    Gary Russell Jr.
    Suriyah Tatakuhn
    Gamalier Rodriguez
    Romulo Koasicha
    Roman Martinez
    Nicholas Walters
    Jason Sosa (who a washed Gamboa just beat)
    Miguel Marriaga

    You call that putting in work ? ? Smmfh. His skills are undeniable, but his resume?

    Same with Rigondeaux. His skills are undeniable but his resume isn't all that either.

    We both KNOW Rigo been getting ducked for YEARS as he offers too much risk and little reward.

    To answer your question though, a victory over Rigondeaux will def help Loma's case for P4P supremacy. Idk if it's number 1, but he should be in the discussion. Crawford has made a better case for #1 imo.

    Same question to you. If Rigo win, is he in the discussion for #1 P4P?

    @JLacey

    Same Walters that beat Donaire. Walters was good. Gary Russell jr is a great win. He just fought salido too early. ? don’t fight championship level fights that soon. His resume is better than Rigo’s. But yeah i think Rigo is if he wins tonight. How can ? say this probably the best boxing match skill wise and not say the winner at least in consideration for p4p number 1
    Who said Loma wasn't in the discussion?

    Who said he was? ? trash Atlas for having him number 1