White people can never FEEL Hiphop music like the Black man

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so along the lines of your reasoning....whites shouldn't read Malcolm X's books even though there is wisdom for both blacks and whites in them...but because it was fundamentally written for the benefits of blacks, whites should just ignore that kind of knowledge?

Ibex wrote: »

No diss but why do a whites think you can feel this ? more than a black person? Not to say that whites can't appreciate the music, make contributions, or have insightful opinions but, they can never really FEEL the music...Please explain to me how a white man can feel songs like 2Pac's "White Man's World" , Nas "Last Real ? Alive" Biggie's "? Bleed", or Public Enemy's "Fight the Power".....I just can't see it

Well, if the proposition that blacks can never feel Eminem like whites is plausible, your theory should too be plausible regarding whites listening to black artists. I agree.

Ibex wrote: »

No I would never deny seeking knowledge and truth, but there is a certain reliability factor to teachings of say a Malcolm X that you could never understand

Honestly, hearing NWA, Public Enemy and the like have shaped my views on race.
Hiphop as a whole has defined my views on racism.
I was never taught one racist thing growing up but never was encouraged to learn about black culture either.
Everything I know about black culture is derived from my love of hiphop.
I became interested in the things I was hearing on tapes and the radio so it led me to learn about Malcolm, MLK, Rosa Parks.
By the time I got into those subjects in school I was already more open than the usual white kid to being interested enough to follow this amazing movement.

Amazes me that you would get defensive to such a positive byproduct of listening to hiphop even if it was a white person.

Alright, let me first say I'm not white, before the "WHATEVER DOESN'T MATTER U WHITE" replies. OP is an idiot, Hip Hop is diverse, there are a lot of different types of songs, so really anyone can "feel" them. The songs OP chose were obviously intended for strictly black audiences.A white man can appreciate N.Y. State of Mind, D'Evils, Juicy, Just a Friend, Regulate, etc. just as much as a black man.

Brova wrote: »

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shadb33 wrote: »

Hip Hop was created in the inner city from people of color. This thread should be accepted as fact. White folks won't truly understand an album such as "Blackstar" or "Me Against The World". ? , alotta black people don't so how can white folks. And black people created rock n roll and country music so yes we can understand it.

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Logic First wrote: »

Well, if the proposition that blacks can never feel Eminem like whites is plausible, your theory should too be plausible regarding whites listening to black artists. I agree.

I agree with that theory. Black people can't relate to Eminem's music as much as a white person due to culture differences, which is why I never argue with a white guy on why he should or shouldn't have Eminem in his top 5 DOA or even number1 for that manner.

i.e. Hating your mother is almost taboo in Black culture.... the same thing with ? ? . Eminem embraces both of these things in multiple songs.

For white people it seems like hating your mom is more of an accepted thing, and ? stuff to white people seems to be entertainment.

Ibex wrote: »

I didn't steal this ? from anybody if this thread has been do before oh well I'm doin it again...but since you wanna bring up that song tell me this..

"Now do you love me mama? Whitey keep on callin me ? ?
Get my weight up with my hate and pay 'em back when I'm bigger
And still thuggin in this jail cell, missin my block
Hearin brothers screamin all night, wishin they'd stop
Proud to be black but why we act like we don't love ourselves
Don't look around busta (you sucka) check yourselves
Know what it MEANS to be black, whether a man or girl
We still strugglin, in this white man's world"

That's how you felt when you where in jail really??

lesson 1: no matter what color your skin is.. when you get behind the walls, you're black like everyone else in that ? . chinese? BLACK. mexican? BLACK. white? BLACK. purple? BLACK. black? ESPECIALLY BLACK..... as far as the COs/guards are concerned... i might as well have been kunta kenti. they act like we aint breathing the same air.. .. like we aint even the same species.. in fact, their total lack of compassion is palpable.. now i can't speak on it for certain but.... i got the distinct feeling that the black dudes i'd be kickin' bars with were so used to this posture of inhumanity that it was barely noticable. i'm mixed & i grew up around nothing but essays & black folks so the idea that my complexion made ? a bit easier wasn't AT ALL lost on me..

lesson 2: with this new perspective, you stop seeing yourself & everyone around you as a color but as 2 seperate groups of people.... one group who thrive off hate & reliving pain... & the ones who stick together despite the petty differences no one had a choice in to begin with.. [ex: being crippled, yellow, ? , muslim, cross eyed, ect..]

lesson 3: unwash your brain. realise books like the bible, [which laid out all the rules for human enslavement [thereby justifying the american slave trade in the minds of the monsters who took part in it] & issued what is now a 2000 year old death warrent for ? people simply because they love [not hurt but LOVE] the wrong person] the quran and torah were designed as prison cells for the human mind... supposedly, these ? rags are meant to promote peace, love, & understanding of our Creator but in actuallity has us at each other's throats.

albert pike, before his death in the late 19 century, had drawn up a blue print of three world wars that were going to happen... the first two happened exactly like he said they would & this is what he said of the third world war..

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most ? turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

religion was meant as a seperation tool by our controllers.. to understand ourselves, we must first understand this fact.

as a side note: not only was pike a 33rd degree freemason but a top leader in the Knights of the Ku Klux ? . & because he's such a great role model, pike has a statue in washington d.c.. the statue of the woman below him has in her hands a banner depicting a two headed eagle signifying Nimrod, the King Of Babylon:



need i say more?

Ibex wrote: »

I hate when jail ? read a book for the first time and the light comes on then they wanna school you on some ? ...your whole post is irrelevant and went waaaay off topic...? that G.E.D. dog get a real degree man..

so because you can't grasp a factual concept [which feeds the roots of your racist point of veiw] that takes people of average intelligence about 20 seconds to comprehend, my post is off topic?



fact: i've read more books than you've laid eyes on.. & maby... just maby... that's the problem here..

"life without knowledge is death in disguise.." ~Talib Kweli