The Infamous "GHOSTWRITER" LIST, but is it TRUE???
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I just had a debate about ghostwriters and weither Biggie had one or not in the recent "What did Fab and Jada Accomplish" thread, well that thread was locked. But some posters brought up this list that's flouting around. 1st I went through the whole list and most of it are credits that the actual writer got credit for on the album credits. People don't understand the definition of "Ghostwriter". A Ghostwriter is paid to write a verse but is not given the publishing credit for it on a song. A "Co Writer" is paid also for their work but they are given writer/publishing credit. Like NaS on "Big Willie Style", people say he "Ghostwrote" for Will Smith but he actually was a "Co-writer" that got writer credit on the songs he helped write so NaS didn't "Ghostwrite" for Will. So Here is the Infamous list, Do you believe it?
JADAKISS
Diddy’s "Senorita" – ghost-written by Jadakiss
Diddy’s verses on "Victory" – co-written by Jadakiss, Biggie, & ROC
Biggie’s "Mo Money Mo Problems" – (biggie’s & diddy’s verse) – co-written by Mase, Jadakiss, & Ed Bernard
Biggie’s verse on “Last Days” – ghost-written by Jadakiss
Charli Baltimore’s “Money” – ghost-written by Jadakiss
Cam’Ron’s “Horse & Carriage” – hook by Jadakiss, both verses co-written by Jadakiss
J-Lo’s "Jenny From The Block" – (Style’s verse) ghost-written by Jadakiss
MA$E
112’s “Only You” (biggie’s verse) – ghost-written by Mase
112’s “Anywhere” (Lil Zane’s verse) – co-written by Mase & Lil Zane
Biggie’s "Mo Money Mo Problems" – (biggie’s & diddy’s verse) – co-written by Mase, Jadakiss, & Ed Bernard
Camron’s “We Got It” – (both Mase/Cam’s verses) co-written by Mase & Cardan
Diddy’s "Friend" – ghost-written by Mase
Philly’s Most Wanted’s "Cross The Border" – ghost-written by Mase
JayZ’s “I Just Wanna Love You” – co-written by Mase & Pharell Williams
Diddy’s "Come 2 Me" – ghost-written by Jody Breeze
Diddy’s "After Love" – ghost-written by Jody Breeze
Diddy’s "Through The Pain" – ghost-written by Jody Breeze
JAY-Z
M. Bleek on "Coming of Age" – ghost-written by JayZ
M. Bleek’s "All Types of " – ghost-written by JayZ
"Coming of Age (Da Sequel)" – (Memphis Bleek’s verse) ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "If I" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Foxy’s Bells" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Get Me Home" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Ill Na Na" – (Foxy’s verse) ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "I’ll Be" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Big Bad Mama” – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Hot Spot" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "I Can’t" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "JOB" – ghost-written by JayZ
Lil Kim’s "Big Momma Thang" – ghost-written by JayZ
Bugs Bunny – "Buggin" (from Spacejam sdtrk) – ghost-written by JayZ
Jermaine Dupri’s "Money Ain’t A Thang" – co-written by JayZ & ROC
Biggie’s "Hypnotize" – co-written by D-Dot
Diddy’s "Fake Thug Dedication" – ghost-written by JayZ
Timbaland’s "Indian Carpet" – ghost-written by JayZ
Dr. Dre’s "Still DRE" – ghost-written by JayZ
Dr. Dre’s "The Watcher" – ghost-written by JayZ & Rakim
Dr. Dre’s "The Message" – co-written by JayZ, Rell, & Royce Da 5’9"
Snoop Dogg’s "Intrology" – ghost-written by JayZ
Pro The Spectacula’s "Call Ya Boy" – ghost-written by JayZ
Pro The Spectacula’s "Handle Barz" – ghost-written by JayZ
Slim Thug’s “I Ain’t Heard of That” – ghost-written by JayZ
Slim Thug’s “I Ain’t Heard of That RMX” – co-written by JayZ
Fort Minor’s “Where’d You Go” – co-written by JayZ & Mike Shinoda
Smitty
Will Smith’s “Miami” – ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s "Bad Boys 4 Life" – Diddy’s verse co-written by Smitty & Black Rob
Diddy’s “And We” – Hook, Diddy’s, & Foxy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Loon’s “How You Want That” – ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s “Show Me Your Soul” – Hook & Diddy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s "Shake Ya Tailfeather" – Hook & Diddy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s “Girl I’m A Bad Boy” – Hook & Diddy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Baby & Diddy’s “Do That” – ghost-written by Smitty
Truth Hurt’s “Cop” – Dr. Dre’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Truth Hurt’s “Benefit of the Doubt” – ghost-written by Smitty
Truth Hurt’s “Hollywood” – ghost-written by Smitty
Dr. Dre’s “The Wash”– ghost-written by Smitty
Dr. Dre’s “On The Boulevard” – co-written by Smitty & Knoc-Turnal
Beyonce’s “Summertime” – co-written by Smitty
T.I.
Bow Wow’s "Let’s Get Down" – ghost-written by TI
Bow Wow’s "I’ll Move On" – ghost-written by TI
Bow Wow’s "The Future" – ghost-written by TI & ROC
Bow Wow’s "The Don, The Dutch" – ghost-written by TI & ROC
Bow Wow’s "Hey Little Momma" – ghost-written by TI & ROC
THE D.O.C.
Dr. Dre’s “Keepin’ It Dope” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Dr. Dre’s “A * Witta Gun” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Dr. Dre’s "Little Ghetto Boy" – co-written by D.O.C. & Snoop
Dr. Dre’s “Big Egos” – co-written by D.O.C., Mel Man, & Brian A. Bailey
Dr. Dre’s “Housewife” – co-written by D.O.C. & Mel Man
Snoop Dogg’s “Snoop’s Upside Ya Head” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Trina’s “Ain’t ” – song/hook co-written by D.O.C. & Trina; (Snoop’s verse) co-written by D.O.C. & Kurupt
Twista/Mobstability’s “Mobstability” – co-written by D.O.C. & Twista
Ice Cube’s “Once Upon A Time In…2” – co-written by Ice Cube & D.O.C.
Ice Cube’s “Roll All Day” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Ice Cube’s “Until We Rich” – (Ice cube’s verse) ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Bone Thugs’ “This Ain’t a Game” song/hook co-written by Trey Songz & D.O.C.; verses co-written by Bone Thugs & D.O.C.
Snoop Dogg’s “Boss Life” – co-written by D.O.C., Stanley Benton, & Akon
Snoop Dogg’s “Round Here” – (Snoop’s verses) co-written by D.O.C. & S. Benton
Snoop Dogg’s “Imagine” – co-written by D.O.C., Snoop, D’Angelo, & Dr. Dre
Snoop Dogg’s “That’s That” – (Snoop’s verses) ghostwritten by D.O.C.
JADAKISS
Diddy’s "Senorita" – ghost-written by Jadakiss
Diddy’s verses on "Victory" – co-written by Jadakiss, Biggie, & ROC
Biggie’s "Mo Money Mo Problems" – (biggie’s & diddy’s verse) – co-written by Mase, Jadakiss, & Ed Bernard
Biggie’s verse on “Last Days” – ghost-written by Jadakiss
Charli Baltimore’s “Money” – ghost-written by Jadakiss
Cam’Ron’s “Horse & Carriage” – hook by Jadakiss, both verses co-written by Jadakiss
J-Lo’s "Jenny From The Block" – (Style’s verse) ghost-written by Jadakiss
MA$E
112’s “Only You” (biggie’s verse) – ghost-written by Mase
112’s “Anywhere” (Lil Zane’s verse) – co-written by Mase & Lil Zane
Biggie’s "Mo Money Mo Problems" – (biggie’s & diddy’s verse) – co-written by Mase, Jadakiss, & Ed Bernard
Camron’s “We Got It” – (both Mase/Cam’s verses) co-written by Mase & Cardan
Diddy’s "Friend" – ghost-written by Mase
Philly’s Most Wanted’s "Cross The Border" – ghost-written by Mase
JayZ’s “I Just Wanna Love You” – co-written by Mase & Pharell Williams
Diddy’s "Come 2 Me" – ghost-written by Jody Breeze
Diddy’s "After Love" – ghost-written by Jody Breeze
Diddy’s "Through The Pain" – ghost-written by Jody Breeze
JAY-Z
M. Bleek on "Coming of Age" – ghost-written by JayZ
M. Bleek’s "All Types of " – ghost-written by JayZ
"Coming of Age (Da Sequel)" – (Memphis Bleek’s verse) ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "If I" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Foxy’s Bells" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Get Me Home" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Ill Na Na" – (Foxy’s verse) ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "I’ll Be" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Big Bad Mama” – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "Hot Spot" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "I Can’t" – ghost-written by JayZ
Foxy’s "JOB" – ghost-written by JayZ
Lil Kim’s "Big Momma Thang" – ghost-written by JayZ
Bugs Bunny – "Buggin" (from Spacejam sdtrk) – ghost-written by JayZ
Jermaine Dupri’s "Money Ain’t A Thang" – co-written by JayZ & ROC
Biggie’s "Hypnotize" – co-written by D-Dot
Diddy’s "Fake Thug Dedication" – ghost-written by JayZ
Timbaland’s "Indian Carpet" – ghost-written by JayZ
Dr. Dre’s "Still DRE" – ghost-written by JayZ
Dr. Dre’s "The Watcher" – ghost-written by JayZ & Rakim
Dr. Dre’s "The Message" – co-written by JayZ, Rell, & Royce Da 5’9"
Snoop Dogg’s "Intrology" – ghost-written by JayZ
Pro The Spectacula’s "Call Ya Boy" – ghost-written by JayZ
Pro The Spectacula’s "Handle Barz" – ghost-written by JayZ
Slim Thug’s “I Ain’t Heard of That” – ghost-written by JayZ
Slim Thug’s “I Ain’t Heard of That RMX” – co-written by JayZ
Fort Minor’s “Where’d You Go” – co-written by JayZ & Mike Shinoda
Smitty
Will Smith’s “Miami” – ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s "Bad Boys 4 Life" – Diddy’s verse co-written by Smitty & Black Rob
Diddy’s “And We” – Hook, Diddy’s, & Foxy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Loon’s “How You Want That” – ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s “Show Me Your Soul” – Hook & Diddy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s "Shake Ya Tailfeather" – Hook & Diddy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Diddy’s “Girl I’m A Bad Boy” – Hook & Diddy’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Baby & Diddy’s “Do That” – ghost-written by Smitty
Truth Hurt’s “Cop” – Dr. Dre’s verse ghost-written by Smitty
Truth Hurt’s “Benefit of the Doubt” – ghost-written by Smitty
Truth Hurt’s “Hollywood” – ghost-written by Smitty
Dr. Dre’s “The Wash”– ghost-written by Smitty
Dr. Dre’s “On The Boulevard” – co-written by Smitty & Knoc-Turnal
Beyonce’s “Summertime” – co-written by Smitty
T.I.
Bow Wow’s "Let’s Get Down" – ghost-written by TI
Bow Wow’s "I’ll Move On" – ghost-written by TI
Bow Wow’s "The Future" – ghost-written by TI & ROC
Bow Wow’s "The Don, The Dutch" – ghost-written by TI & ROC
Bow Wow’s "Hey Little Momma" – ghost-written by TI & ROC
THE D.O.C.
Dr. Dre’s “Keepin’ It Dope” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Dr. Dre’s “A * Witta Gun” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Dr. Dre’s "Little Ghetto Boy" – co-written by D.O.C. & Snoop
Dr. Dre’s “Big Egos” – co-written by D.O.C., Mel Man, & Brian A. Bailey
Dr. Dre’s “Housewife” – co-written by D.O.C. & Mel Man
Snoop Dogg’s “Snoop’s Upside Ya Head” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Trina’s “Ain’t ” – song/hook co-written by D.O.C. & Trina; (Snoop’s verse) co-written by D.O.C. & Kurupt
Twista/Mobstability’s “Mobstability” – co-written by D.O.C. & Twista
Ice Cube’s “Once Upon A Time In…2” – co-written by Ice Cube & D.O.C.
Ice Cube’s “Roll All Day” – ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Ice Cube’s “Until We Rich” – (Ice cube’s verse) ghostwritten by D.O.C.
Bone Thugs’ “This Ain’t a Game” song/hook co-written by Trey Songz & D.O.C.; verses co-written by Bone Thugs & D.O.C.
Snoop Dogg’s “Boss Life” – co-written by D.O.C., Stanley Benton, & Akon
Snoop Dogg’s “Round Here” – (Snoop’s verses) co-written by D.O.C. & S. Benton
Snoop Dogg’s “Imagine” – co-written by D.O.C., Snoop, D’Angelo, & Dr. Dre
Snoop Dogg’s “That’s That” – (Snoop’s verses) ghostwritten by D.O.C.
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rapmastermind wrote: »
JADAKISS
Cam’Ron’s “Horse & Carriage” – hook by Jadakiss, both verses co-written by Jadakiss
MA$E
Camron’s “We Got It” – (both Mase/Cam’s verses) co-written by Mase & Cardan
JAY-Z
Slim Thug’s “I Ain’t Heard of That” – ghost-written by JayZ
Slim Thug’s “I Ain’t Heard of That RMX” – co-written by JayZ
nah ? na, ion believe this right here ^^^..
they might have written or help write da hook or maybe pitched in a line when a ? was stuck, but ghost written..i doubt it...
givin an artist a song u were on is different from ghostwriting..
i heard cam did some writing for kellz tho... -
Wouldn't be surprised if Jay ghost wrote most of Foxys ? .
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it's possible but i do know rappers get credit for writing the chorus for songs.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Jay ghost wrote most of Foxys ? .
Jay Z and NaS both "Ghostwrote" for Foxy and didn't get any Credit. Biggie "Ghostwrote" for Lil Kim and Junior Mafia and didn't get the writing credit for their verses. Obviously they did that cause they were trying to put people one. But Yea, Jay Z is responsible for Foxy's Debut just like Big was responsible for Lil Kim's. -
rapmastermind wrote: »Jay Z and NaS both "Ghostwrote" for Foxy and didn't get any Credit. Biggie "Ghostwrote" for Lil Kim and Junior Mafia and didn't get the writing credit for their verses. Obviously they did that cause they were trying to put people one. But Yea, Jay Z is responsible for Foxy's Debut just like Big was responsible for Lil Kim's.
what you think about mase and jada allegedly writing for biggie -
That's why
Nas and Pac are the GOATS. aint nobody write they ? . -
I dont think your list is unbelievable but i think u need to have some type of proof that watchu say is truth.
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what you think about mase and jada allegedly writing for biggie
Not true. Jada admitted Biggie made him re-write his verse on "Last Day" in the XXL "Making of Life After Death". Ma$e was ghostwriting mostly for Puffy as Ma$e wrote Puffy's verses on "Mo Money, Can't nobody Hold Me Down, Been Around the World". Jada wrote Puffy's verses on "Benji's" and "Senorita" (Which Fat Joe helped Puffy with the Spanish words for the song). Biggie was a ghostwriter himself, he didn't need anyone writing for him. Speaking of Fat Joe, Big Pun was ghostwriting for him heavy during the "Don Cartagina" album. -
rapmastermind wrote: »Not true. Jada admitted Biggie made him re-write his verse on "Last Day" in the XXL "Making of Life After Death". Ma$e was ghostwriting mostly for Puffy as Ma$e wrote Puffy's verses on "Mo Money, Can't nobody Hold Me Down, Been Around the World". Jada wrote Puffy's verses on "Benji's" and "Senorita" (Which Fat Joe helped Puffy with the Spanish words for the song). Biggie was a ghostwriter himself, he didn't need anyone writing for him. Speaking of Fat Joe, Big Pun was ghostwriting for him heavy during the "Don Cartagina" album.
I feel the same too, I noticed it didn't list Biggie's writing anything. Especially when it was common knowledge that Big wrote for the JM. -
rapmastermind wrote: »Jay Z and NaS both "Ghostwrote" for Foxy and didn't get any Credit. Biggie "Ghostwrote" for Lil Kim and Junior Mafia and didn't get the writing credit for their verses. Obviously they did that cause they were trying to put people one. But Yea, Jay Z is responsible for Foxy's Debut just like Big was responsible for Lil Kim's.
Oh word did Nas and AZ write her ? on The Firm album too? -
J-A-D-A .. Top 5 Dead or Alive,
He probably wrote Read to Die. -
some of these artists are NOT artists
they are puppets -
That's why
Nas and Pac are the GOATS. aint nobody write they ? .
Cormega wrote the "I'll be flooded with ice so hell fire can't scortch me" line for NaS on "Affirmative Action". I believe NaS admitted they were all in the studio feeded off each other ideas. It was just one line and everyone who's been in a studio session knows this goes on. Not a Big deal again just one line. -
T.I. wrote 85% of Bow Wow Unleashed album (shout to musicchoice for this one)
Joe Budden and Skillz ghostwrote for countless ? -
Oh word did Nas and AZ write her ? on The Firm album too?
NaS ghostwrote for her on "The Firm" and on "Affrimative Action" from "I.W.W." (So people should be getting on NaS for her fuzzy math, lol), Jay ghostwrote for her for "Ill Na Na", that is another reason NaS didn't like Jay cause Foxy started messing with Jay Z during the whole Firm ish and working with him. The only song NaS ghostwrote for Foxy on her album was "The Promise" which was produced by Havoc so that's not a surprise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwecbNMuHoo&feature=related
Foxy Brown - The Promise (Ghostwritten by NaS)
So I'm not saying the list is wrong, there are some true stats up there. But there are also some that aren't true so it was like they mixed the factual ones with the rumor ones. -
rapmastermind wrote: »Cormega wrote the "I'll be flooded with ice so hell fire can't scortch me" line for NaS on "Affirmative Action". I believe NaS admitted they were all in the studio feeded off each other ideas. It was just one line and everyone who's been in a studio session knows this goes on. Not a Big deal again just one line.
thats different though
feeding off each other is giving some one an idead not really ghost writting -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG_qcud1ShM
Still D.R.E. - Written By Jay Z (Listen to Dre's Flow, clearly it's Jay)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzOtBFjM4tE
Just Cruisin - Written by NaS (Listen to Will's Flow, clearly it's NaS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44fXvSbVbHs
Drugs - Written by Biggie (Listen to Lil' Kim's Flow, Clearly it's Biggie)
All 3 got "Co-writer" credit on each of these songs. -
I can believe Smitty wrote for Diddy
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ptowndonte wrote: »I can believe Smitty wrote for Diddy
Smitty is a millionare off Ghostwriting, as well as Mad Skillz, those dudes put in work on the Ghostwriting tip. I was surprised about T.I., I didn't know he did that much work with Bow Wow. But when you listen to the tracks, it all makes sense now. -
rapmastermind wrote: »Smitty is a millionare off Ghostwriting, as well as Mad Skillz, those dudes put in work on the Ghostwriting tip. I was surprised about T.I., I didn't know he did that much work with Bow Wow. But when you listen to the tracks, it all makes sense now.
Smitty tried to come public with this joint, you can tell who he done wrote for -
Lol like I've been saying Jadakiss ghost wrote for Biggie
? act like I was talking out my ass...
Biggie fans souls are burning
There is nothing to confirm for sure that any of these are true. Some of them are true, some of them are Rumors. I already disproved that Jada wrote for Biggie from his own words in a published magazine about the song in question. Doubtful Ma$e wrote for Big but Jada and Ma$e did fill up Puff's rhyme book. I do not believe that Ma$e helped Jay Z write "I just wanna love you" that sounds false to me. -
ptowndonte wrote: »Smitty tried to come public with this joint, you can tell who he done wrote for
i thought this shoulda been a hit... -
I heard Red Cafe and Royce Da 5'9'' also did quite a bit of songwriting...
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I dont think your list is unbelievable but i think u need to have some type of proof that watchu say is truth.
It's not my list, it's a list that has been floating around online with no sources or proof. Most of it may be hearsay but I've hear of some of these songs were infact ghostwritten. I don't believe the Biggie ones obvioulsy and have proof they are false. A lot of people have taken this list to other Hip Hop sites and ran with it like it was fact but again most of the things on this list can't even be proven. -
NAS
Will Smith’s “Just Cruisin” – ghost-written by Nas
Will Smith’s “Gettin’ Jiggy Wit It” – ghost-written by Nas
Will Smith’s “Yes Yes Ya’ll” – co-written by Nas & Skillz
Will Smith’s “Chasin’ Forever” – co-written by Nas & Skillz
AZ’s "Mo Money, Mo Murder" – (AZ’s verse) co-written by Nas & AZ
Olu Dara’s "The Jungle" – ghost-written by Nas
Foxy’s Verse on "Affirmative Action" – ghost-written by Nas
Foxy’s Verse on "? " – ghost-written by Nas
Foxy’s Verse on "Encore" – ghost-written by Nas
Foxy’s Verse on "Firm Fiasco" – ghost-written by Nas
Foxy’s Verse on "Untouchable" – co-written by Nas & Mel Man
Foxy’s Verse on "Firm Biz" – co-written by Nas & AZ
Foxy’s Verse on "Executive Decision" co-written by Nas & Nature
Jermaine Dupri’s "Turn It Out" – co-written by Nas & ROC
Jermaine Dupri’s "I Gotta Have It" – co-written by Nas & Bryan M. ?
Jermaine Dupri’s "Still Gotta Have It" – co-written by Nas, Monica, & B. M. ?
Cha Cha’s "Momma" – ghost-written by Nas
Fat Joe’s "Jon Blaze" – (Fat Joe’s verse) ghost-written by Nas
Timbaland’s "To My…" – ghost-written by Nas
Diddy’s “Journey Through The Life” – (Diddy’s verse) ghost-written by Nas
RUN DMC’s "Queen’s Day" – (Run’s & DMC’s verses) co-written by Nas, Prodigy, & Havoc
Capone-N-Noreaga’s "B EZ" – (Nore’s verse) co-written by Nas & Capone
Kay Slay’s "Too Much 4 Me" – (Foxy’s verse) co-written by Nas
The Neptunes’ "Popular Thug" – (Pharell’s verse) ghost-written by Nas
Diddy’s “Everything I Love” – co-written by Common & Nas