Only 10 QB's in NFL HISTORY have WON more games than DONOVAN MCNABB......

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rapmastermind
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edited December 2011 in From the Cheap Seats
TOTAL WINS IN NFL HISTORY (REGULAR SEASON + PLAYOFFS)


1 Brett Favre 186 112 0 + 13 11= 199-123
2 John Elway 148 82 1 + 14 7 = 162-89-1
3 Dan Marino 147 93 0 + 8 10 = 155-103
4 Peyton Manning 141 67 0 + 9 10 = 150-77
5 Tom Brady 119 35 0 + 14 5 = 133-40
6 Joe Montana 117 47 0 + 16 7 = 133-54
7 Fran Tarkenton 124 109 6 + 6 5 = 130-114-6
8 Johnny Unitas 118 64 4 + 6 2 = 124-66-4
9 Terry Bradshaw 107 51 0 + 14 5 =121-56
10 Jim Kelly 101 59 0 + 9 8 = 110-67
11 Donovan McNabb 98 62 1 + 9 7 =107-69-1



Call him washed up, Say he's done but the fact is everyone ahead of him on this list are HALL OF FAMERS. So what does that make Donovan?. Some of you really have no concept of how successful his career was even without a title.
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  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    TOTAL WINS IN NFL HISTORY (REGULAR SEASON + PLAYOFFS)


    1 Brett Favre 186 112 0 + 13 11= 199-123
    2 John Elway 148 82 1 + 14 7 = 162-89-1
    3 Dan Marino 147 93 0 + 8 10 = 155-103
    4 Peyton Manning 141 67 0 + 9 10 = 150-77
    5 Tom Brady 119 35 0 + 14 5 = 133-40
    6 Joe Montana 117 47 0 + 16 7 = 133-54
    7 Fran Tarkenton 124 109 6 + 6 5 = 130-114-6
    8 Johnny Unitas 118 64 4 + 6 2 = 124-66-4
    9 Terry Bradshaw 107 51 0 + 14 5 =121-56
    10 Jim Kelly 101 59 0 + 9 8 = 110-67
    11 Donovan McNabb 98 62 1 + 9 7 =107-69-1



    Call him washed up, Say he's done but the fact is everyone ahead of him on this list are HALL OF FAMERS. So what does that make Donovan?. Some of you really have no concept of how successful his career was even without a title.

    *this would only matter if he was white*..... Mcnabb is done, lets make that clear. But when it's all said and done he will have one of the most underrated careers EVER. Tim Tebow wins a couple of games and "all he does is win" but Mcnabb couldn't get the same treatment. Not to mention besides having t.o. for that year he never had an elite receiver. He was a great teammate, a great person off the field and all he did was win and people still have the nerve to say his legacy is debatable......
  • Mumo X
    Mumo X Banned Users Posts: 4,521 ✭✭
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    Much Respect to McNabb --- he headed to canton whatever happens from now on.
  • StoneColdMikey
    StoneColdMikey Members, Moderators Posts: 33,543 Regulator
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    i dont see it happenin cuz the league blackballin him like nba did a.i.
  • rapmastermind
    rapmastermind Members Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think Chi-town picks up Donovan. I agree about the Tebow comment, his game is terrible but he wins game. Donovan game isn't perfect but it's far from terrible, he is in the Top 20 in NFL HISTORY in Passing and TD's and is 10th ALL TIME for rushing yards and TD's for a QB. Race does play a factor too on how Donovan is viewed.

    It's funny he took the blame for the Skins last year, but look at them now? even worst than when Donovan was there. As for the Vikings, Mcnabb and the Offense was leading the team to lead after lead only for the Defense to basically give it away. I'm not saying Donovan has been light outs but the fact is he has taken way to much blame for what happen in the last 2 years. It's funny to when I hear ppl sayin "Donovan is not an Elite QB" when he's 11th ALL TIME IN TOTAL WINS IN NFL HISTORY. Are ppl kidding? Eagles would actually be better off with Donovan still being on the team now.
  • rapmastermind
    rapmastermind Members Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    *this would only matter if he was white*..... Mcnabb is done, lets make that clear. But when it's all said and done he will have one of the most underrated careers EVER. Tim Tebow wins a couple of games and "all he does is win" but Mcnabb couldn't get the same treatment. Not to mention besides having t.o. for that year he never had an elite receiver. He was a great teammate, a great person off the field and all he did was win and people still have the nerve to say his legacy is debatable......

    Very True, but Donovan was always in controversy without being Controversial. It was weird and again race did play a role. Donovan never causes drama and always takes the high road even when sometimes he should of fought back and answered his critics. I mean Rush Limbaugh did say Donovan was only being talked about not cause of his performance on the field but because the media wanted a Black QB to succeed. The NAACP Chairmen in Philly said he wasn't Black Enough, as well as Bernard Hopkins.

    Some of it Donovan did bring to himself like the Fact he lost 4 NFC Title games and a Super Bowl where the myth is he got tired and threw up. The T.O. drama, Injuries prone, Inaccurate with his passes, throws in the dirt to much, questions of his Worth Ethic, Benched Washington and Minny including drama with the Shanahans (How are those Skins doing now?) but in the end all Donovan did was win games. His statistics are crazy, only Peyton and Brady won more games and did more in the last decade. I think once he retires and people analyze it, Donovan will have one of the most under rated careers in NFL History.


    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7304242

    Mcnabb on ESPN about being wavied
  • aneed123
    aneed123 Members Posts: 23,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mcnabb is a Hall of Famer and is the most disrespected qb ever.. Its a shame. I was a critic of his when deserved but he gets disrespected too much
  • rapmastermind
    rapmastermind Members Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    Mcnabb is a Hall of Famer and is the most disrespected qb ever.. Its a shame. I was a critic of his when deserved but he gets disrespected too much

    The 10 QB's on the list above Mcnabb are all either in the Hall or Future Hall of Famer's. Of the 11, 8 Have won the Super Bowl. 4 have won more than 1 Superbowl, 4 never won a Super Bowl but all 11 played in the Super Bowl and have been to multiple Conference Championships. Mcnabb numbers put him with the Elite in NFL HISTORY. He is an upper echleon winner when you look at the fact very few QB's ever won more than a 100 total games in this league.
  • PanchoYoSancho
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    1 Brett Favre 186 112 0 + 13 11= 199-123.........3 time NFL MVP and SB Champion
    2 John Elway 148 82 1 + 14 7 = 162-89-1.........1987 NFL MVP, 2 time SB Champion and SB MVP
    3 Dan Marino 147 93 0 + 8 10 = 155-103..........Wont even dignify comparing McNabb to Marino with a response
    4 Peyton Manning 141 67 0 + 9 10 = 150-77..........SB Champ/MVP, 4 time NFL MVP, the GOAT
    5 Tom Brady 119 35 0 + 14 5 = 133-40..........3 time SB Champ, 2 time SB MVP, 2 time NFL MVP. Joe Montana Jr
    6 Joe Montana 117 47 0 + 16 7 = 133-54..........4 time SB Champ, 3 time SB MVP, 2 time NFL MVP. The King of Clutch
    7 Fran Tarkenton 124 109 6 + 6 5 = 130-114-6..........3 SB appearances, 1975 NFL MVP, 9x Pro Bowler. ? on Favre :tu
    8 Johnny Unitas 118 64 4 + 6 2 = 124-66-4.......... I hear he was the Peyton Manning of his generation. Good enough for me
    9 Terry Bradshaw 107 51 0 + 14 5 =121-56..........Never thought he was that good, but 4x SB Champ, 2x SB MVP, 1978 NFL MVP
    10 Jim Kelly 101 59 0 + 9 8 = 110-67..........4 SB appearances
    11 Donovan McNabb 98 62 1 + 9 7 =107-69-1..........blows chunks in the biggest game of his life and one hops ? in the dirt
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    I hope youre not trying to paint Mcnabb(who I like) as some all time great QB

    He had his moments but there was never a time where I could say he was the best or even top 3 QB in the league.


    Even in his best year 2004, Daunte was better.
  • rapmastermind
    rapmastermind Members Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    1 Brett Favre 186 112 0 + 13 11= 199-123.........3 time NFL MVP and SB Champion
    2 John Elway 148 82 1 + 14 7 = 162-89-1.........1987 NFL MVP, 2 time SB Champion and SB MVP
    3 Dan Marino 147 93 0 + 8 10 = 155-103..........Wont even dignify comparing McNabb to Marino with a response
    4 Peyton Manning 141 67 0 + 9 10 = 150-77..........SB Champ/MVP, 4 time NFL MVP, the GOAT
    5 Tom Brady 119 35 0 + 14 5 = 133-40..........3 time SB Champ, 2 time SB MVP, 2 time NFL MVP. Joe Montana Jr
    6 Joe Montana 117 47 0 + 16 7 = 133-54..........4 time SB Champ, 3 time SB MVP, 2 time NFL MVP. The King of Clutch
    7 Fran Tarkenton 124 109 6 + 6 5 = 130-114-6..........3 SB appearances, 1975 NFL MVP, 9x Pro Bowler. ? on Favre :tu
    8 Johnny Unitas 118 64 4 + 6 2 = 124-66-4.......... I hear he was the Peyton Manning of his generation. Good enough for me
    9 Terry Bradshaw 107 51 0 + 14 5 =121-56..........Never thought he was that good, but 4x SB Champ, 2x SB MVP, 1978 NFL MVP
    10 Jim Kelly 101 59 0 + 9 8 = 110-67..........4 SB appearances
    11 Donovan McNabb 98 62 1 + 9 7 =107-69-1..........blows chunks in the biggest game of his life and one hops ? in the dirt


    Well, his name is right with there as one of the winningest QB's in NFL HISTORY. He lost his Super Bowl to #5 on the list Tom Brady and the Dynasty Patriots who have been accused of cheating but we aren't going to go there, but anyways it was by 3 points, so he didn't get blow out or murdered. Matter a fact he passed for Top 5 passing yards in Super Bowl History. He's been to 5 NFC Title Games, that means he's had his team in the Top 2 of the NFC and Final 4 of the NFL 5 times in his career, most recently 3 years ago in 2008-2009 season. The people above him have had great careers but guess what, so did Donovan and you can't minimize that cause again, his name is right there at #11 and guess what if he goes to Chicago and wins 4 games, he will pass Jim Kelly and be Top 10 all time.
  • Mvpbrodie93
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    He sucked in Most of those NFC championship games tho

    The only great performance was the last one against the cardinals.
  • Co_Town_Michael
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    skooby2315 wrote: »
    i dont see it happenin cuz the league blackballin him like nba did a.i.

    No.
    Both them ? are just washed up.
  • rapmastermind
    rapmastermind Members Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I hope youre not trying to paint Mcnabb(who I like) as some all time great QB

    He had his moments but there was never a time where I could say he was the best or even top 3 QB in the league.


    Even in his best year 2004, Daunte was better.


    The Same Dante that Donovan's Eagles ended his season on the way to the Super Bowl? Weren't they 8-8 that year also? No Donovan was better and made NFL History in 2004 and was the NFC Player of the year. Dante had a great year passing and TD's but he wasn't better than Donovan in 2004.



    He sucked in Most of those NFC championship games tho

    The only great performance was the last one against the cardinals.


    Not really, out of the 5 NFC Title games, Donovan really only played bad in 2 of them. The Tampa game he wasn't good and we should of beat them but they wanted revenge. The Carolina game wasn't good but they had a cheap shot on him and broke his ribs in the 1st quarter. His 1st NFC Title game he almost beat the greatest show on turf in their house. He bodied the Falcons and Vick his eventual replacement to get to the Super Bowl and almost beat Arizona on his way to a possible 2nd Super Bowl. The Fact is by him being in 5 NFC Title games, he had his team in Super Bowl Contention, year in and year out.
  • Darius
    Darius Members Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭
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    word. most wins means alot as far as legacy. just look at Marty Schottenheimer and Dan Reeves
  • rapmastermind
    rapmastermind Members Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    matt- wrote: »
    word. most wins means alot as far as legacy. just look at Marty Schottenheimer and Dan Reeves


    Plenty of Great Players and Coaches never won a title, doesn't mean they didn't have great careers, including the Coaches you just mentioned both very respected in the league.
  • Darius
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    Plenty of Great Players and Coaches never won a title, doesn't mean they didn't have great careers, including the Coaches you just mentioned both very respected in the league.
    no one disputes mcnabb had a great career, its just he'll be remembered for choking in the game that mattered most of all.
  • Darius
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    skooby2315 wrote: »
    i dont see it happenin cuz the league blackballin him like nba did a.i.
    i'm assuming you are talking about someone other than mcnabb
  • H-Rap 180
    H-Rap 180 Members Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Peckawood only has one final "glory" athletic position that he dominates...the Football QB position.

    Warren Moon had to spend his early years in Canada because the cracka was too racist to let him lead a football team as a QB and Moon still made the Hall of Fame and ? on 99% of them pale-faced ? .

    McNabb will never get his due.
  • Will Munny
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    I think McNabb's last two years in thei league will really hurt his legacy. Not just because he was so horrible, because he just didn't even give a ? .
  • RumBoxTen
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    McNabb is 50/50 for HOF status. His stats can get him there but I can also see him not getting there with all the short comings he had in the later part of his career. He just stopped putting in work and fell off hard. But outside of Roth-berg , Manning and Brady aint nobody else playing right now thats topping him for HOF status.
  • Darius
    Darius Members Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭
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    RumBoxTen wrote: »
    McNabb is 50/50 for HOF status. His stats can get him there but I can also see him not getting there with all the short comings he had in the later part of his career. He just stopped putting in work and fell off hard. But outside of Roth-berg , Manning and Brady aint nobody else playing right now thats topping him for HOF status.

    forgetting about Rog'rs?
  • RumBoxTen
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    No. Too early to put Rodgers up there when he only 3 season deep.
  • Darius
    Darius Members Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭
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    RumBoxTen wrote: »
    No. Too early to put Rodgers up there when he only 3 season deep.

    oh yeah, you're right, if Roth-berg's season ended today, he'd be in canton in no time
  • Mister B.
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    I thin he gets in, but after a while. Maybe on a last shot. Dude put Philly football back on the map. You can't knock that.
  • dmv_use2thewait
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    The 10 QB's on the list above Mcnabb are all either in the Hall or Future Hall of Famer's. Of the 11, 8 Have won the Super Bowl. 4 have won more than 1 Superbowl, 4 never won a Super Bowl but all 11 played in the Super Bowl and have been to multiple Conference Championships. Mcnabb numbers put him with the Elite in NFL HISTORY. He is an upper echleon winner when you look at the fact very few QB's ever won more than a 100 total games in this league.

    And the "Weapons" he had during his conference championship runs besides T.O. should show you how good of a QB he really was, of course he had some really good defenses but man did he carry those offenses.