The Official 2012 NFL Offseason Free Agency/Draft Thread

Dude, rg3 was given one of Peytons weapons! Manning had Wayne and Clark and Harrison, but after that, he's only had marginal WRs and running backs- except for James. There are at least a dozen teams who have had more weapons that Manning and had better defenses to support them. What is the manning treatment!

matt- wrote: »

Dude, rg3 was given one of Peytons weapons! Manning had Wayne and Clark and Harrison, but after that, he's only had marginal WRs and running backs- except for James. There are at least a dozen teams who have had more weapons that Manning and had better defenses to support them. What is the manning treatment!

Manning treatment is being drafted 1 or 2 given full support of organization = no other qbs will be a threat to u. U get to call ur plays, the team is build around ur strengths.... ? a running game its all about u. ? my philosophy it will be ur team. U may aubible whenever u feel like it lol.. seriously tho u get what Im saying... its ur team we put full faith in u. u will be able to play thru ur ? ups and we wont bench u after a 3-4 game bad stretch. Its not really about the weapons but about the unlimited faith from the organization in u like Peyton got from jump

matt- wrote: »

aneed123 wrote: »

matt- wrote: »

Dude, rg3 was given one of Peytons weapons! Manning had Wayne and Clark and Harrison, but after that, he's only had marginal WRs and running backs- except for James. There are at least a dozen teams who have had more weapons that Manning and had better defenses to support them. What is the manning treatment!

Manning treatment is being drafted 1 or 2 given full support of organization = no other qbs will be a threat to u. U get to call ur plays, the team is build around ur strengths.... ? a running game its all about u. ? my philosophy it will be ur team. U may aubible whenever u feel like it lol.. seriously tho u get what Im saying... its ur team we put full faith in u. u will be able to play thru ur ? ups and we wont bench u after a 3-4 game bad stretch. Its not really about the weapons but about the unlimited faith from the organization in u like Peyton got from jump

so like cam newton?

cam aint got it like that yet... u get my point tho...

99% of qb's drafted can't come into the league and start calling their own plays. that's just an crazy ass expectation to put on any rookie.

As far as the cousins thing the skins need it. ? you just sold your fans Rex Grossman and John Beck. Most folks around here don't want to see Beck or Grossman anywhere near there team.

And Shanahan's job is based on how RG3 performs. Drafting RG3 buys Shanahan 2 more years. If he's not winning by next season he's fired. If Cousins comes in somehow and looks better than RG3 then that just makes Shanahan look even worse. Why did we give up the farm for RG3 if this Cousins guy can get it done. If Cousins is a success it won't be for Shanahan b/c he'll be fired b/c he put all his hope and job security on RG3.

Well chad johnson gets a W in the book now he got his child support reduced and his bm is bout to lose her house....greedy ass hoes

numbaz...80's baby wrote: »

We needvto cut some ? and go after Osi from the Giants.

just wait til training camp when OSI starts really beefing bout his contract. probably can get him for a 4th rounder. That would be nice pick up ATL

and is Mike Nolan switching yall to a 3-4 or staying pat in a 4-3. Watch out for his wack ass zone coverage schemes

numbaz...80's baby wrote: »

We're staying in the 4-3. It will be hybrid though. We'll also be in Nickle a lot. That's why we picked up Asante.

it's called the big nickel trust me i know it very well. Way too much zone for me. corners playing 10 yards off of wr's. Same reason why the Chargers defense fell off. They have the Niners former d coordinator that worked under Mike Nolan. They play soft instead of attacking. Nolan is hit or miss hope he hits for yall b/c you will get frustrated watching them just give up free yards.

He could be good Broncos and Dolphins defense improved his 1st year there but after that they fell off a bit. I'm biased b/c he stunk my team up for 6 years.

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Nolan changes his stripes everywhere he goes, even he admitted this on Falcons.com.

His schemes are based 80% on the players he has and 20% on him.

And Vangorder was the exact opposite.

The best undrafted players of 2012: The defense

Defensive End

Jacquies Smith, Missouri: Aldon Smith's successor as Mizzou's main pass rusher doesn't flash Smith's talent, but he's a high-effort guy who could show out in hybrid defenses. Undrafted due to the deadly trilogy: size concerns, short arms, small hands.

Kourtnei Brown, Clemson: Impressive athlete who scored interception and fumble return touchdowns against North Carolina last season. Has injury and "one-year wonder" concerns, but seems to take the attributes that would make some NFL team look smart.

Jamie Blatnick, Oklahoma State: Kind of a tweener, size-wise, and there are off-field issues to look at. But he does flash potential as a situational blitz player for a team with a solid locker room.

Defensive Tackle

Hebron Fangupo, BYU: Interesting story here. Fangupo spent two years on a religious mission in the Philippines after high school, and suffered through an injury-plagued stint at USC following his JUCO transfer. Transferred to BYU after SC and finally showed his stuff. Not a playmaker; more a bowling-ball nose tackle type who can soak up blockers. Will come into the NFL in his late 20s, which seems to be a ding to everyone but Brandon Weeden.

Marcus Forston, Miami: Major injury concerns, but Forston looks the part when he can play. Raw project player with some ability against the run and pass.

Matt Masifulu, Stanford: Masifulu made enough plays in Vic Fangio's multiple defenses to stand out on tape, and did the same after Fangio followed Jim Harbaugh to the 49ers. He'll be reunited with Fangio in San Francisco, and he's a player to watch this preseason. Possible rotation guy.

Inside Linebacker

Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State: Remember in "Bull Durham," when the coaches spoke of Nuke Laloosh as the kid with the million-dollar arm and the five-cent head? Burfict is the football version -- a player with estimable raw talent who was benched multiple times because he couldn't stop racking up stupid penalties. Questionable football sense, to put it kindly.

Shawn Loiseau, Merrimack: Who? Where? Well, there are obviously questions about Loiseau's ability to play against tougher competition -- you don't often impress the NFL by dominating Southern Connecticut State. But his impressive week at the Shrine Game got some interest going. He's the reeeeeeeeally small-school version of Luke Kuechly -- more a rangy space player with great intangibles than a dominant tackler. Signed with the Texans.

Noah Keller, Ohio: Athletic marvel who absolutely blew up his Pro Day and amassed 438 tackles in his collegiate career. Coming off multiple injuries in 2011, which probably kept him out of the late rounds, but fought through them very well.
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Outside Linebacker

Tyler Nielsen, Iowa: Would have been debited for his size more a few years ago, but with the recent run on 'backers weighing 240 or less, Nielsen has a better schematic shot. Coming in at 6-foot-3 makes him a little skinnier, though -- most of the speed guys aren't that tall. Broken vertebrae in his neck suffered in 2010 season has healed, but has to be a concern.

Alex Hoffman-Ellis, Washington State: Undersized, All-Conference player on some really horrible defenses. Versatile defender who will probably have to make his bones in the NFL on special teams.

Braylon Broughton, TCU: Late bloomer and athletic freak who could be a preseason star in the right system. Has the capacity to fire off the edge as a pure pass rusher, but to date, athletic ability has outstripped his production.

Cornerback

Chase Minnifield, Virginia: Son of former Cleveland Browns standout cornerback Frank Minnefield. Smoother than fast, and in an NFL where pure speed is prized at the position, he'll have to benefit from the right scheme.

Ryan Steed, Furman: People wondered about the competition Steed faced until he surprised with a nice week at the Senior Bowl. Good zone corner especially in short and intermediate spaces; could shine as a slot defender.

Leonard Johnson, Iowa State: Dinged because of height concerns (5-foot-10) in an era where shorter cornerbacks aren't as prized as they were in the days when Ronde Barber was seen as the profile. A chippy player who plays the run well and seems a natural in zone coverage.

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Safety

Aaron Henry, Wisconsin: Real sleeper potential here. All-Conference selection who wasn't invited to the combine, and never heard why. Rocked it at his Pro Day, and the game tape matches up with his fairly impressive stats. As a slot/flat defender in a big nickel package, he'd be worth a shot.

Quinton Richardson, Washington: Inconsistent pass defender, but if you saw Washington's pass defense over the last three seasons, "inconsistent" is practically a Heisman watch in comparison. Will get a shot as a DB at the next level for his pure speed -- maxed out at the sub-4.4 level at his Pro Day.

Duke Ihenacho, San Jose State: Three-time All-WAC selection who recovered from a broken foot in 2010 to play well last season. Rangy box player and a good fit for any team looking to expand their front-half concepts.

The Bossman wrote: »

Redskins release Jabar Gaffney

its a shame they had to cut him....he was the hardest working player on offense last year, but its business as usual....he'll get a spot somewhere as a slot...