What protege's are better then their teachers?
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no cam > mase?
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ODB had some of the greatest flows ever... he's one of the best in Wu-Tang. And Masta is dope as hell. RZA has never impressed me as a lyricist. But he's certainly better than U-? ...
didn't odb steal his rhymes from gza ?
and masta ? almost single handedly killed triumph with that wack ass verse
he's like a human buzz ? . I mean he did have a better lp than ugod. I mean why waste all those dope ass beats when u got 5 dumb nice dudes on ya team ?
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young chris>>> neef buck wack ass he suppose to have taught chris how to rhyme smh he should've never done that cause chris ? all over that boy
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ODB had some of the greatest flows ever... he's one of the best in Wu-Tang. And Masta is dope as hell. RZA has never impressed me as a lyricist. But he's certainly better than U-? ...
didn't odb steal his rhymes from gza ?
and masta ? almost single handedly killed triumph with that wack ass verse
he's like a human buzz ? . I mean he did have a better lp than ugod. I mean why waste all those dope ass beats when u got 5 dumb nice dudes on ya team ?
He used some of GZA's B lines and made them classics. That's dope as hell.
Masta's verse on Winter Warz > Cappa's verse that everyone always talks about. And his verse on Triumph was nice, but certainly not his best:
"Light is provided through sparks of energy
From the mind that travels in rhyme form
Giving sight to the blind
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum
Death only one can save self from
This relentless attack of the track spares none" -
Max B>>>Jim Jones
Drake>>>lil wayne
Jay-z>>>Jaz-o
Eminem>>>Dre
Meek Mill>>Ross -
WavyCrockett215 wrote: »Max B>>>Jim Jones
Drake>>>lil wayne
Jay-z>>>Jaz-o
Eminem>>>Dre
Meek Mill>>Ross
Solid list, but Max B was Jim's Ghost Writer
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Joe over Pun? smh hell no
cassidy>swiss beats
jada>styles p
kurupt>snoop -
ODB had some of the greatest flows ever... he's one of the best in Wu-Tang. And Masta is dope as hell. RZA has never impressed me as a lyricist. But he's certainly better than U-? ...
didn't odb steal his rhymes from gza ?
and masta ? almost single handedly killed triumph with that wack ass verse
he's like a human buzz ? . I mean he did have a better lp than ugod. I mean why waste all those dope ass beats when u got 5 dumb nice dudes on ya team ?
He used some of GZA's B lines and made them classics. That's dope as hell.
Masta's verse on Winter Warz > Cappa's verse that everyone always talks about. And his verse on Triumph was nice, but certainly not his best:
"Light is provided through sparks of energy
From the mind that travels in rhyme form
Giving sight to the blind
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum
Death only one can save self from
This relentless attack of the track spares none"
lmao you can't be serious about that winter warz
cappa prolly has 10 dope rhymes that verse is 4 of them
masta killa almost ? up another track i mean he was prolly there when they recorded the track and those dust blunts got dudes to put him on the song deck ? rza hell the hook was better than his verse lol
i respect your respect for masta tho but nah man i can't co sign that at all -
How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
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Craig Robinson wrote: »How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
How is he not? -
Nas/Az
Az was a better rapper to me but he wasn't as commercially successful as Nas. -
SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
How is he not?
He made a name for himself and developed his sound/style way before Ross, the MMG thing was just a business move -
Craig Robinson wrote: »SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
How is he not?
He made a name for himself before Ross, the MMG thing was just a business move
Drake, Pusha T and 50 made names for themselves before signing with their respective teams, but are still considered proteges. In all actuality all artist make a name for themselves elsewhere or they would never get signed. -
Craig Robinson wrote: »SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
How is he not?
He made a name for himself and developed his sound/style way before Ross, the MMG thing was just a business move
Protege - one who is protected or trained or whose career is furthered by a person of experience, prominence, or influence -
SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
How is he not?
He made a name for himself and developed his sound/style way before Ross, the MMG thing was just a business move
Protege - one who is protected or trained or whose career is furthered by a person of experience, prominence, or influence
Symbiosis - interaction between two different organisms living in close physical association, typically to the advantage of both. -
Craig Robinson wrote: »SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »SecondChanceBro wrote: »Craig Robinson wrote: »How is Wale a protege of Rick Ross?
How is he not?
He made a name for himself and developed his sound/style way before Ross, the MMG thing was just a business move
Protege - one who is protected or trained or whose career is furthered by a person of experience, prominence, or influence
Symbiosis - interaction between two different organisms living in close physical association, typically to the advantage of both.
How is working with Wale advantages to Rick Ross, Wale's career was furthered under the tutelage of Rick Ross, Wale’s debut album, “Attention Deficit,” sold 28k in the first week of sales in November 2009. Wale followed that up with his sophomore album, “Ambition,” which sold 164k record in the first week of sales
You see what I did there? Stated facts! -
obviously...banks > 50
also...
em > dre
big pun > fat joe
silk > master p
treach > queen latifa -
az>nas
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Lauryn Hill > Wyclef
Big Pun > Fat Joe
Kanye West > D. Dot
Obie Trice > Eminem
Lloyd Banks > 50 Cent
Curren$y > C Murda -
I'll give you Inspectah Deck over Rza but Gza and ODB and Rza came up together. I think MK is dope but I don't think he's better than Rza. -
WavyCrockett215 wrote: »Max B>>>Jim Jones
Drake>>>lil wayne
Jay-z>>>Jaz-o
Eminem>>>Dre
Meek Mill>>Ross
I would've cosigned except for the bolded. I ? with Meek but I haven't heard his best track ? with the plethora of hot ? Ross has been dropping.
To the cat that said Obie > Em...? damn man, since the time Obie really came into prominence? CO-? -SIGN. I personally feel Obie is underrated, he makes that heartfelt, introspective, real ? . Word to that stan ? . But really, I think that's a masterful example. I wonder why he got dropped...
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Obie is underrated but that ? aint on Em's level and he'll tell you that.
Cant believe Japanman said Silk>>> That ? dont even look right even if it is Master P -
Emenim>>>>50-Cent
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There´s a lot of ? posters lol.
How is eminem 50´s protege.Ya ? dumb as duck.
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icecoldstew wrote: »Obie is underrated but that ? aint on Em's level and he'll tell you that.
Cant believe Japanman said Silk>>> That ? dont even look right even if it is Master P
@icecoldstew
Full catalogue taken into consideration? Agreed.
Cheers dropped in '03, Encore dropped in '04. I honestly stopped feeling Em as much after MMLP, but TES did have some good songs. What i'm really getting at is that for the 2 albums that Obie dropped post MMLP, I felt they were superior to what Em was doing at the time. Now Obie might say that his mentor was on the top of his game from TES until Obie departed, i'd have to disagree just off of what Obie put out. I do think Obie learned a lot from Em tho, which I guess factors in.
