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post some subliminal lines that are obvious shots at other rappers. I expect to see a lot of Hov lines lol
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"Been hoppin' out the BM with your BM
Taking her to places you couldn't go with your per diem"
Jay Z on 'Three Kings' taking yet another slick shot at Nas?
When Jay said "Hoppin' out the BM (BMW) with your BM (Baby Mama)" it immediately made me think of his lines about Carmen from 'Super Ugly' when he was beefin' with Nas
I know him and Nas are supposed to be cool now but Jigga is funny styles like that.... -
"Been hoppin' out the BM with your BM
Taking her to places you couldn't go with your per diem"
Jay Z on 'Three Kings' taking yet another slick shot at Nas?
When Jay said "Hoppin' out the BM (BMW) with your BM (Baby Mama)" it immediately made me think of his lines about Carmen from 'Super Ugly' when he was beefin' with Nas
I know him and Nas are supposed to be cool now but Jigga is funny styles like that....
nah, i think thats a reach
that No Lie song is Drake's ? ass dissing Rihanna -
"you already know what i do to fools
so when i get down i aint gon be in the Muzik Mood"
Royce at Joe Budden
This aint Detroit red you wont X me out my Malcolm
Obie at nobody
"if i was trying to X you out you know you'd be dead
you need beef with me like you need a hole in your head"
Royce at Obie (for some reason)
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Subliminal disses are wack. Be a man about it and diss him up front
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Yeah, i hate sublims
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i don't care if people throw subliminals but some rappers go over board
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I appreciate a clever subliminal. if youre scared to ever say a name is different though
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just.might.b.ok wrote: »
shenco? -
Exactly. Sometimes it can ruin a songs playback quality if it's all "? ___, ? ____, etc." especially when it's a few years after. They start sounding like mixtape dissesI appreciate a clever subliminal. if youre scared to ever say a name is different though
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Subliminal diss songs are the best cuz the songs last longer that those '? him/her', 'suck my ? ' type of songs.
E.g. I can still listen to Long Kiss Goodnight and Drop a Gem on em, they are lyrical subliminal classics; but i can't listen to hit em up, the songs long expired... -
i always wanted to buy some beats by dre and just walk around with them like an ? college student high school student
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Pardon the lack of precise poasting. I'm gone off that ? brewster.
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"Don't let the liquor fool you, cause I'll stick it to you
Somethin sharp to the heart, or somethin big to move you
The Desert or the shottie, whateva you the body
that chose to be the dumb ? at the party
Too much Bacardi started speakin dumb
Then you tried to ? Joe - must have been Puerto Rican rum"
big pun going at jay-z on 100
to all 90's babies hova worshipers that ? happened fo real -
Before he decided to put Dear Summer as a song on Bleek's album, Jay-Z freestyled it on Hot 97 and used it to subliminally diss Game.
Y'all put my verse on your records and all that, I want 700%/
I'm comin' in for 700%, Do not put my verse on your records, aight?/
You plan to bang, I plan to bang too/
You playing the games, i'm seeing the thing through/
You saying my name to entertain your crew/
I ain't playing no games, the shots' exchange through/
Fresh off probation, I got a charge to throw away/
My lawyer say for 80 large it'll go away/
that ain't no money to Jay/
so you could get it broad day on broadway while TRL tapin'/
You playing a game you know you ain't gon' win/
Quit playing those childish games, I'm grown men/
I don't give a ? about cars or chrome rims/
I got apartments you could put your home in/
Can I live?/
Can I Keep it going?, Can I keep going?
Do not put my verse on your records, dawg
I keep guns in the room
? back up; they know I'm not no fronter/
I don't talk ? , I just flip it "+Un" ya/
It's like when ? make subliminal records/
Know they ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it/
You don't really want it with Hov, for the record/
I put a couple careers on hold, you could be next kid/
Keep entering the danger zone/
You gon' make that boy Hov put your name in a song/
If you that hungry for fame, ? c'mon/
Say when, take ten paces and spin/
? can't ? with me/
I'm in a good mood, you lucky, I in a good groove/
And I ain't trying to mess my thing up/
But I will lay down a couple green bucks, get you clinked up/
Now I'm "Pulp Fiction", Colt four-fifth and/
Young ? that blast for me/blasphemy, no religion/
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Biggie subliminally dissed Nas on Victory:
The son of satan
They say my killin's too blatant
You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin
Duct tapin your fam, Destiny,
Lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist -
? going at Lil Troy, but not directly saying his name.
? ain't say his name because Lil Troy previously sued Scarface for "defamation of character and slander" on a previous diss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjwazEAtQaA -
"? Jay-Z"
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Worst enemies want to be my best friends
Best friends want to be enemies, like that's what's in
But I don't give a ? , walk inside the lion's den
Take everybody's chips, about to cash them in
Nas on success..
when he first signed to DefJam..
going at Jay..
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just.might.b.ok wrote: »"you already know what i do to fools
so when i get down i aint gon be in the Muzik Mood"
Royce at Joe Budden
This aint Detroit red you wont X me out my Malcolm
Obie at nobody
"if i was trying to X you out you know you'd be dead
you need beef with me like you need a hole in your head"
Royce at Obie (for some reason)
Obie was down with D12 and Shady I know Royces diss was Malcom X so I think Obie threw shots first -
Gotta love a good subliminal shot.
You can go back and see beef bubbling before the overt disses. The most obvious of this is the Jay/Nas thing. If you listen to some of their previous stuff now, you could see them baiting each other to see who was going to be the first to overtly step up.
That "ask Nas he don't want it with Hov" wasn't the first shot, they had been going at it for awhile. Nas took a shot at Bleek just to be sure but it was definitely some heat coming from Rocafella towards Nas before Bleek or Jay mentioned it.
Of course we know now that it was all over Carmen but back then we had no clue.
I'll try to lay out a timeline of ? I caught personally:
Nas "How We Livin" (w/ AZ) I forget the year, I think 1996 or 1997--
"Is That yo ? in my 6/ turning up the volume when she hear my hits?"
About 2 years later (1998-1999) Jay-Z drops "Is That Yo ? "...
"She got you whipped, got your kids
Got your home, but that's not your ?
You share that girl, don't let 'em hear daddy he url
It'll make 'em sick that his favorite chick
Ain't saving it, unfaithful ? "
Nas comes back in 1999-2000 with "Come Get Me":
You don't like me clown? Now you wanna take me down?
If I bring my face around, you gon' do what? You butt
Your crew knew I blew up, I been shinin - baseball diamonds
? rings for your chicklings
? know what my nine pearl handle's about
? you say girlie mouth? Get it crunk like the ? South
And I know you see me flossed out, multi-milli-i
Hear your ? talk about me, you give her the cold eye?
Girls dig you, imagine what she feel for me?
You make hot songs, but she know you steal from me
Jay then of course mentions Nas by name after that.
Now there may be some things I missed and just for those that think I'm reaching: the overt disses basically lay out the path.
Hov ? Carmen and knew that was his trump card if a battle broke out ("you know who did you know what with you know who/lets keep that between me and you" [for now])
There's a lot that goes into that "for now" basically meant that he was going to spill but that he wouldn't if Nas didn't respond, which of course he did and Jay spilled the beans.
I come to that conclusion because of course that's ultimately what happened and of course because of "Last Real ? Alive":
"A quiet man who used to be alone planning
Baby moms thought I was too quiet, couldn't stand it
She hit the streets, later on she hittin' the sheets
With a rapper who wanted me on his songs thinking he strong
I taught her how to watch for cars that might follow
Taught her street ? that I know her weakness was shine yo"
And to put a nice little bow on the whole story...
Nas actually said it out of his mouth that all this was over Carmen:
"You see a ? who know, out of three women 2 out of 3 will love you but lead you to they own, hidden evil ? ! You the reason ? be beefin, hoe get on 'Posed to be Earth, ain't worth the ? that you sit on" (The Cross)
Earth = mother of a child...in 5% language.
Looking at it this way it makes more sense.
Jay-Z was the most popular rapper of the era. BIG was dead, Pac was dead, DMX was an ally, Scarface was an ally the only person in any position to challenge him was Nas and in his mind he had a trump card on him (? Carmen Nas' Baby Mama) so he figured it was an easy coup de grace.
It was a win-win situation for Jay. Either he disses Nas and he doesn't respond (win because he can say Nas was scared to take him on) and he's crowned king with little bloodshed or Nas responds and he bombs on him on a personal level (which is what it came down to) and he wins in a ? battle, either way he couldn't see himself losing.
Of course he ended up losing but as plans go, they often go awry at some point. -
Nas coming at jay
You can't B.I., see I'm eternal, not luck
You get shot-up, boxed-up next for the grave
Your flow is one dimensional, your level is 2nd grade
You're on top - WHAT?
Copy and ? , I said it first, you repeated
Your false crown covered in dirt - defeated
Y'all ? all hail, the King is dead
He running like a ? with his tail between his legs
'Stillmatic', still eye 4 an eye, wanna be ?
You're just the next rapper to die, ? with Nas
Jadakiss coming at jay
who really the best rapper since big ain't here ?
Ya'll know the answer to that when kiss ain't here.
jay going at 50
Hova the ? , I should be rappin' with the turban
Haters can't disturb him, waiters can't serve him
Mike Jordan of rap, outside J workin'
Now watch how quickly I drop 50
I don't like playin', ? can't stick me
? cannot jam me, ? can't get me
Slimmy at the Rucka wanna leave and spend with me
I consistently take 'em out the park like Ken Griffey
jay at nas imo
? say it's the dawn, but I'm superstitious
? is as dark as it's been, nothing has gone as you predicted
I move with biscuits, stop the heart of ? acting too suspicious
This is food for thought -- you do the dishes
come on there's too many
joe budden going at jay
jay getting at nas on murder marcyville
nas going at jay on you wanna be me
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Good subliminal > Sayin' "? X"...
Jay - "All I see is these ? I made millionaires
Milling about, spilling they feelings in the air"
And all of Kick in the Door -
Subliminals are a classic part of hip hop. End of story. Just go back to the old Ultramag records where they sublim dissed EVERYONE.
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Pras dissed Jeru Da Damaja on Zealots and Don't Cry Dry Your Eyes
"? jealous 'cause the truth I said in zealots
Well let me tell it...without premier you couldn't sell it"
