Can Kobe win his 2nd MVP trophy this year... Hmmmm?
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^ and again this dude doesn't say anything that hasn't already been said....class dismissed lol u a substitute teacher reading off the real teacher's notes. hop on ya bike now and pedal away before method man stabs you samuel.
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P swayze166 wrote: »Kobe could have won it any year post 2003 and it would have been legit, but steve nash changed the game once he got to the suns, half the league tried to copy their style and failed. If you weren't copying the lakers by getting big bodies, you were trying to run a form of the 7 second offense. MVP isn't the best player in the league award, if it was Kobe should have won it like 7 years straight.
but his team either wasn't winning or he wasn't the best player on team . why should he get mvp and he's not the most valuable person on his own team . -
Can we just say what it is, KOBE DOES NOT MAKE HIS TEAMMATES BETTER. That's why he only has 1 mvp, same reason why Melo will never win ? because of that reason too. Anyone can chuck up shots all day, but do you bring the best out your teammates (Duncan, Nash, Lebron,etc).
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Everytime this argument comes up, the facts, numbers and stats always back up the fact that Kobe was never robbed of an MVP. His play and his teams were sub par as ? . The usual Kobe stans will come in here with every thing but the actual stats and figures.....Karl Rove ass ? .
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Homie really used T-Mac's playoff performance as a reason why he didn't deserve MVP.
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MC The Rapper wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Kobe could have won it any year post 2003 and it would have been legit, but steve nash changed the game once he got to the suns, half the league tried to copy their style and failed. If you weren't copying the lakers by getting big bodies, you were trying to run a form of the 7 second offense. MVP isn't the best player in the league award, if it was Kobe should have won it like 7 years straight.
but his team either wasn't winning or he wasn't the best player on team . why should he get mvp and he's not the most valuable person on his own team .
Ummm he def was the best player on his team every year from 03 on and read my post I justify why Nash should of won them, if the MVP meant the best player in the league kobe would have won like 7 years straight...but LIKE I SAID, it's not that award......and how was Kobe not the most valuable person on his own team lmao...who was chucky Atkins? -
Kobe should have won in 2001, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009.
I'm convinced yall weren't watching games. -
P swayze166 wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »P swayze166 wrote: »Kobe could have won it any year post 2003 and it would have been legit, but steve nash changed the game once he got to the suns, half the league tried to copy their style and failed. If you weren't copying the lakers by getting big bodies, you were trying to run a form of the 7 second offense. MVP isn't the best player in the league award, if it was Kobe should have won it like 7 years straight.
but his team either wasn't winning or he wasn't the best player on team . why should he get mvp and he's not the most valuable person on his own team .
Ummm he def was the best player on his team every year from 03 on and read my post I justify why Nash should of won them, if the MVP meant the best player in the league kobe would have won like 7 years straight...but LIKE I SAID, it's not that award......and how was Kobe not the most valuable person on his own team lmao...who was chucky Atkins?
Shaq was always considered better than kobe during shaq's prime . and when chucky atkins was on the team they weren't winning games. You have to win games . dropping 40 every night doesn't mean anything if it doesn't translate to wins . -
Shaq's prime ended in 2001 maybe 2002...Kobe had taken over the team by then......they were in playoffs with a terrible roster until 2008. And again I'm not arguing against Nash, so where are you going with any of this?
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From 96-04 shaq>>>Kobe.In 03 and 04 kobe shot way more scored more and shaq got injured and the lakers ironically Lost in the playoffs/finals.When the offense was ran thru the diesel 67-15(11-3 without kobe),19 game winning streaks and championships
Lmao kobe the ONLY star who had the luxury of playing half his career as the 2nd best player on his team.Put that in perspective
Jordan,Lebron,Bird,Magic,Hakeem,Timmy Duncan etc cant relate that's why they'll always be ranked higher on the list by real fans and the basketball gods -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »From 96-04 shaq>>>Kobe.In 03 and 04 kobe shot way more scored more and shaq got injured and the lakers ironically Lost in the playoffs/finals.When the offense was ran thru the diesel 67-15(11-3 without kobe),19 game winning streaks and championships
Lmao kobe the ONLY star who had the luxury of playing half his career as the 2nd best player on his team.Put that in perspective
Jordan,Lebron,Bird,Magic,Hakeem,Timmy Duncan etc cant relate that's why they'll always be ranked higher on the list by real fans and the basketball gods
What about wade??? He was the star of his team from 03 (really 06) to 2010 that's only 7 years (really 4 years) as the best player on his team
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^Don't feed the trolls man he is the bill oreilly of these forums
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^Lmao I stay makin this homotional child catch feelins he stay flaggin posts cuz he catches feelins about what I sayTommy bilfiger wrote: »From 96-04 shaq>>>Kobe.In 03 and 04 kobe shot way more scored more and shaq got injured and the lakers ironically Lost in the playoffs/finals.When the offense was ran thru the diesel 67-15(11-3 without kobe),19 game winning streaks and championships
Lmao kobe the ONLY star who had the luxury of playing half his career as the 2nd best player on his team.Put that in perspective
Jordan,Lebron,Bird,Magic,Hakeem,Timmy Duncan etc cant relate that's why they'll always be ranked higher on the list by real fans and the basketball gods
What about wade??? He was the star of his team from 03 (really 06) to 2010 that's only 7 years (really 4 years) as the best player on his team
Wade was the best player on the heat until july 8,2010 when the king arrived
He didn't play half his career as the 2nd best player like kobe."I'm tired of being a sidekick" -Kobe
These groupies tryna argue he was an mvp candidate? Lmao this ? wasn't even the best player on his team for half his career then couldn't get out the 1st round until the most skilled Pf besides timmy fundamentals arrived -
I've never flagged anyone of your posts.....you quote me and put it in ya sig. Added me to your obsession next to ya Kobe shrine.
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P swayze166 wrote: »Shaq's prime ended in 2001 maybe 2002...Kobe had taken over the team by then......they were in playoffs with a terrible roster until 2008. And again I'm not arguing against Nash, so where are you going with any of this?
if your team doesn't win your not going to win the mvp its that simple . Kobe fans are making claims that aren't true by saying oh he's was the best player in league he hasn't been the best player in league ever either. Best SG definitely best player no . Tim Duncan and Lebron have not only had good statistical years and years where their teams were competitive in Lebron's case and winning championships in Tim Duncan's -
SMH cats is still ? about Nash getting that 2nd MVP? Let it the ? go.
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Nah Kobe was by the far best player in the league, sorry playa.
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Can we just say what it is, KOBE DOES NOT MAKE HIS TEAMMATES BETTER. That's why he only has 1 mvp, same reason why Melo will never win ? because of that reason too. Anyone can chuck up shots all day, but do you bring the best out your teammates (Duncan, Nash, Lebron,etc).
But has Nash ever brought the best out of his teammates to win a ring.....Kobe has 5..... more than all those guys in parentheses put together -
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i guess Magic didnt play with kareem
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Honestly i could see Dwight getting it .. he's posting good #'s now and probably playing at 75-80% .. he'll get back to the games where he's constantly having 13-15 Rebounds
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i guess Magic didnt play with kareem
what were magic's responsibilities on the basketball floor and what were kobes when he was playing with shaq ? -
MC The Rapper wrote: »
Kobe was the chief facilitator, perimeter defender and Co pilot of the offense
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playmaker answered you MC
and magic never guarded anyone, he was the 1st version of Nash, all offense -
playmaker88 wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »
Kobe was the chief facilitator, perimeter defender and Co pilot of the offense
well magic was running the offense, rebounding, being top in league in assists and scoring almost averaging a triple double while playing multiple positions even fulling in for kareem at one point .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg3a_Ix_xLs
