MICHAEL JORDAN 1984-1990 APPRECIATION (THE HOOD CHAMPION before Corporate Michael)
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There's a lot of down playing on a Young Mike Jordan from 1984-1990 in terms of him going against the great teams of the 80's, talking about Celtics ect....
Michael Jordan didn't get a squad to the very late 80's and Jordan went against great teams in the Celtics, Pistons and 76ers with great players who won championships , MICHAEL earn his stripes and went through the fire and for those who said that Bird was injured, a healthy Jordan was dropping 60 on they heads in the playoffs with out a squad.
MAGIC and BIRD couldnt stop what was coming JORDAN was going to earn those chips regardless. -
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YOU WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE A GREAT PLAYER or UNSTOPPABLE, NBA will ban your move as in THE CROSSOVER ala ALLEN IVERSON (yeah Jordan got those ankles broke) or they will invent a game plan as in HACK-A-SHACK outside of WILT CHAMBERLIN, SHAQ is THE MOST DOMINATE FORCE that THE NBA ever seen in his prime.
or THE JORDAN rules that Chuck Daley made up to stop AIR JORDAN in the late 80's, ONE OF THE GREATEST RIVALRY in the EAST, was THE BAD BOYS vs THE CHICAGO BULLS.
THE RIVALRY and the JORDAN RULE started because of JORDAN lighting they ? up in 1988, and that game is so important because The Pistons where a Defense Juggernaut that was shutting down and beating up every team on defense and MJ lit'em up
Michael Jordan 1988: 59pts Vs. Detroit Pistons on CBS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7S76yjxSWE
Bulls–Pistons rivalry
The Bulls–Pistons rivalry began in the late 1980s and was one of the most intense in NBA history for a couple of years, when Michael Jordan evolved into one of the league's best players and the Pistons became a playoff contender.
1988 Eastern Conference SemifinalsPistons won, 4–1
1989 Eastern Conference Finals Pistons won, 4–2
1990 Eastern Conference Finals Pistons won, 4–3
1991 Eastern Conference Finals Bulls won, 4–0
1988–90: The Bad Boys & Jordan Rules
The rivalry started in the 1988 Eastern Conference Semifinals after the Pistons and Bulls beat the Bullets and Cavs in the first round 3-2. The aggressive Bad Boys, as Detroit became known, were on the rise. Michael Jordan was league MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, and the ultimate challenge for the Pistons' top-notch defense. In a nationally televised game in Detroit on Easter Sunday, Jordan torched the Pistons for 59 in a 112-110 Bulls victory (He burned them for 61 in a 125-120 OT victory in 1987). This angered Chuck Daly, who vowed never to allow him to light them up again. Despite Jordan's individual skills, the Bulls lacked the talent and mental toughness to beat Detroit, who ravaged Chicago in 5. The Pistons went on to beat Boston in 6 and won their first Conference Title since they moved from Fort Wayne.
Michael Jordan vs. Piston's Defense (aka: "Jordan Rules")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE
Sports Illustrated, November 1989:
The Jordan Rules
by Jack McCallum
The guiding principle is that a defender is never left to guard Jordan unaided. Jordan's position on the floor dictates whether the Pistons trap him with a second defender or have the second defender play "help and recover" (that is, run at Jordan to stop his dribble, but then scramble back to his own man; Salley is a master at this ploy). The closer Jordan is to the basket, the more the Pistons go with the trap. When he is above the sideline hash mark (28 feet from the baseline), they usually play help and recover.
Even when Jordan is far from the basket, perhaps bringing up the ball as a point guard on a wide-open floor, Detroit runs a second player at him, someone like Salley or Rodman. This reduces the amount of open court that he has to work with and often forces him to give up the ball to a teammate. The Pistons always want someone else to handle the ball. Not sometimes. Always.
When Jordan has the ball on the wing, the Detroit player guarding him forces him toward defensive help. Most often that means turning Jordan to the right when he's on the left side of the floor and to the left when he's on the right side.
If Jordan happens to get isolated with one man and is in a potential scoring position, the Piston defender will try to force him to go left. They think he makes a stronger, more explosive move to his right. So does Jordan.
When Jordan tries to run a pick-and-roll, Detroit traps him. That means that two men, the one guarding Jordan and the one guarding the Bull setting the pick, run at him. The Pistons do this with remarkable efficiency, partly because that second defender is usually the 6 ft. 11 in. Salley or the 6 ft. 11 in. Laimbeer. The tall trappers make it almost impossible for Jordan to deliver the ball to a teammate rolling toward the basket, and their aggressive charge toward Jordan usually forces him to retreat.
When Jordan posts up near the basket, Detroit typically puts three men on him, with Dumars most often behind him, using his strong hips and legs to "body" Jordan away from the basket. When the entry pass comes in from the point guard, Thomas leaves that guard and double-teams Jordan. If that means the point guard is free, so be it. Meanwhile, another defender, perhaps Laimbeer or Salley, will have come over and planted himself in the lane, maybe on the baseline side, maybe toward the middle. Dumars will then turn Jordan toward that help. Jordan loves the baseline. "Even though there's less room down there, I can be more creative," he says. But by and large, the Pistons take it away from him.
When Jordan comes off a screen set near the baseline -- his most frequent maneuver when he's playing shooting guard -- a host of Jordan Rules come into play. Dumars must follow him around the screen -- no matter if he has to go into the bleachers -- to prevent Jordan from making a backdoor cut and receiving an alley-oop pass for an almost certain dunk. The Piston -- usually Laimbeer -- guarding the Bull setting the pick will step out to make Jordan receive the ball farther from the basket. In addition -- and this is important -- that man will guard against Jordan's making a "tight curl" off the top of the screen and suddenly looping back into the middle to take a short pass on the dead run, a circumstance that is almost always disastrous for the defense.
In most cases Jordan will have to step back and take the pass on the wing. Then Thomas will come over, creating a double team, and the process begins all over again. If Jordan puts the ball on the floor, at least two players stay on him, pushing him toward even more help. If he passes, the weakside defenders adjust to play two Pistons against four Bulls or one against three. As long as Jordan is out of the picture, they love those odds. -
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Bulls–Pistons rivalry
1988–90: The Bad Boys & Jordan Rules
Chicago Bulls vs Detroit Pistons 90' Classic -(Michael Jordan vs.Isiah Thomas Duel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeIILbs29_w
The rivalry started in the 1988 Eastern Conference Semifinals after the Pistons and Bulls beat the Bullets and Cavs in the first round 3-2. The aggressive Bad Boys, as Detroit became known, were on the rise. Michael Jordan was league MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, and the ultimate challenge for the Pistons' top-notch defense. In a nationally televised game in Detroit on Easter Sunday, Jordan torched the Pistons for 59 in a 112-110 Bulls victory (He burned them for 61 in a 125-120 OT victory in 1987). This angered Chuck Daly, who vowed never to allow him to light them up again. Despite Jordan's individual skills, the Bulls lacked the talent and mental toughness to beat Detroit, who ravaged Chicago in 5. The Pistons went on to beat Boston in 6 and won their first Conference Title since they moved from Fort Wayne.
NBA 1987-88: Bad Boys take on the Fledgling Bulls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZX8cvHtnjQ
In 1989, the Pistons were stronger than ever, posted the league's best record of 63-19. They reached the Conference Finals by sweeping the Celtics and Bucks. The 6th-seeded Bulls (47-35) had surprising success in the playoffs by upsetting the Cavs 3-2 with The Shot and Knicks 4-2. The Bulls met Detroit in the Eastern Conference Finals. Their success continued as they took a 2-1 series lead. But the Pistons clamped down and employed the "Jordan Rules" (which consisted of solely targeting Jordan) which worked so well for them the year prior. While they remained mum about them when asked by the media, many Pistons today say that it was just another psychological ploy they made up to throw the Bulls off their game. According to Pistons forward Rick Mahorn,
Michael Jordan 1989 Playoffs: Gm 3 Vs. Pistons, 46 pts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR1U_uGsXCM
“ We were just throwing stuff out there. It was just a joke. Chuck throws it out there that we had some secret plan to stop Jordan, and everybody just jumped on it. Everybody was writing stories about this strategy. When we kept reading about it, Isiah told us that we had gotten in their heads, and that's how we had them beat.
Michael Jordan 1990: 33 points vs Pistons (Game 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsJBBn6lfo
The Pistons took a stand and won 3 straight and went on to win their first NBA Title.
For the 1989-90 season under new coach Phil Jackson, the Bulls sought to subvert the "Jordan Rules" by focusing on the triangle offense refined by assistant coach Tex Winter. By sharing responsibility rather than shouldering it, Jordan led Chicago to the second-best record in the East at 55-27 behind the defending champion Pistons, who finished 59-23. The rematch was set up when Detroit swept Indiana in the opening round, then ousted New York in 5. The Bulls beat the Bucks in 4 and 76ers in 5. In an Eastern Conference Finals rematch, Chicago pushed Detroit to the limit. But the Pistons showed their dominance and won Game 7 at home. The Pistons went on to win their 2nd straight NBA Title against the Blazers.
Michael Jordan 35 pts vs. Pistons - 1991 ECF Game 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n43N8RxwT8
Michael Jordan 1990: 47 points vs Pistons (Game 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmCCKNgPlc
Michael Jordan 1990: 42 points vs Pistons (Game 4)
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waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »He always had corporate influence it only grew as his career progressed.
I semi agree with you and i understand what you are saying and i am not disagreeing with you, but i will say that Michael Jordan was always Marketable....but when he came in the league Jordan was known as a cocky kid, a ball hogger, show boater, selfish.....and he only can play Above the Rim they mocked him for rocking gold around the neck you would of thought he was Allen Iverson, they over looked his whole game.
But when NBA start seeing how the Bulls hats and jackets was flying off the shelves and how Jordan was held in the urban community when the mainstream and Nba players was ? on Michael because he was lighting they ? up, then they seen the dollar signs, but didnt want to make the move because they still had Bird and Magic who owned the NBA
The whole NBA players ? on him is a myth. He was a corporate spokesman from jump. The whole nike
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MC The Rapper wrote: »waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »He always had corporate influence it only grew as his career progressed.
I semi agree with you and i understand what you are saying and i am not disagreeing with you, but i will say that Michael Jordan was always Marketable....but when he came in the league Jordan was known as a cocky kid, a ball hogger, show boater, selfish.....and he only can play Above the Rim they mocked him for rocking gold around the neck you would of thought he was Allen Iverson, they over looked his whole game.
But when NBA start seeing how the Bulls hats and jackets was flying off the shelves and how Jordan was held in the urban community when the mainstream and Nba players was ? on Michael because he was lighting they ? up, then they seen the dollar signs, but didnt want to make the move because they still had Bird and Magic who owned the NBA
The whole NBA players ? on him is a myth. He was a corporate spokesman from jump. The whole nike
controversy during his first season is proof of that.
man in 1984 Nike wasn't a mover or maker like it is now, Nike was a white running shoe and was rocked by white athletes like steve carlton, that was a fact. They was smart on signing Jordan and it was the hood that brought those Jordans in 1984 to make it the highest selling shoe that year. Yeah it was a big deal how in the hell a player out of college got a shoe contract when Magic, Bird, Dr. J didnt have a contract and was still rocking Ponys.
Again much props on Nike to take a gamble on a college player, that's why they are running ? they had the hindsight to see into the future and like any great company you take a gamble and invest in money into a unknown and it paid off -
Bulls–Pistons rivalry
Jordan vs. Dumars/Pistons--from DVD "Playground"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_sMOwMB-WE
Michael Jordan 1990: 22 points vs Pistons (Game 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO_3YkLai48
The Game 7 loss resulted in a stronger Bulls team the following season. With greater concentration on teamwork, they posted the best record in the East at 61-21 and Jordan regained the MVP award after years of being called a selfish player. The Pistons would drop to third in the East with a record of 50-32. Both teams meet in the Conference Finals for the third straight year, with Chicago holding home-court advantage for the first time. The Bulls reached the Conference Finals by sweeping the Knicks and beating the 76ers in 5, while the Pistons disposed of Atlanta in 5 and beat Boston in 6. While some still doubted Chicago and maintained that Detroit's psychological edge and bench strength would loom over the series, the Bulls' 3 years of growing pains gave them the drive that not only inspired the greatness necessary to defeat the Pistons, but a decade. Proving their growth, Chicago swept Detroit. Isiah Thomas, Bill Laimbeer and Mark Aguirre, in their last show of defiance, walked off the court with 7.9 seconds left so as not to congratulate them. Only Joe Dumars and John Salley shook hands with any of the Bulls. In the NBA Finals, the Bulls defeated Magic Johnson's Lakers to win their 1st NBA title
Michael Jordan 1990: 31 pts vs Pistons (Game 7)
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waterproof wrote: »icecoldstew wrote: »I don't think he went "Corporate", I'd call it growing up. ? wasn't a young man anymore. Got married, had kids. Time to start thinking long term
I expect this from you Stew but you got to let it go bruh, you almost had a point but that point is ? , cheating on your wife, not paying up on your gambling debts is growing up huh.......
Muhamad Ali will say otherwise, Ali was Ali and didnt change for nobody, Isiah Thomas will say other wise, Kobe Bryant will say other wise i can go on an on, SIR CHARLES will say otherwise
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waterproof wrote: »icecoldstew wrote: »I don't think he went "Corporate", I'd call it growing up. ? wasn't a young man anymore. Got married, had kids. Time to start thinking long term
I expect this from you Stew but you got to let it go bruh, you almost had a point but that point is ? , cheating on your wife, not paying up on your gambling debts is growing up huh.......
Muhamad Ali will say otherwise, Ali was Ali and didnt change for nobody, Isiah Thomas will say other wise, Kobe Bryant will say other wise i can go on an on, SIR CHARLES will say otherwise
don't forget the "no ? " sitaution
lol, man come on bruh that's the corporate michael what in the hell that have to do with Michael Jordan 1984-1990, not a damn thing....but you just added a great point to this thread, to show the difference between the Jordans.... -
waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »He always had corporate influence it only grew as his career progressed.
I semi agree with you and i understand what you are saying and i am not disagreeing with you, but i will say that Michael Jordan was always Marketable....but when he came in the league Jordan was known as a cocky kid, a ball hogger, show boater, selfish.....and he only can play Above the Rim they mocked him for rocking gold around the neck you would of thought he was Allen Iverson, they over looked his whole game.
But when NBA start seeing how the Bulls hats and jackets was flying off the shelves and how Jordan was held in the urban community when the mainstream and Nba players was ? on Michael because he was lighting they ? up, then they seen the dollar signs, but didnt want to make the move because they still had Bird and Magic who owned the NBA
The whole NBA players ? on him is a myth. He was a corporate spokesman from jump. The whole nike
controversy during his first season is proof of that.
man in 1984 Nike wasn't a mover or maker like it is now, Nike was a white running shoe and was rocked by white athletes like steve carlton, that was a fact. They was smart on signing Jordan and it was the hood that brought those Jordans in 1984 to make it the highest selling shoe that year. Yeah it was a big deal how in the hell a player out of college got a shoe contract when Magic, Bird, Dr. J didnt have a contract and was still rocking Ponys.
Again much props on Nike to take a gamble on a college player, that's why they are running ? they had the hindsight to see into the future and like any great company you take a gamble and invest in money into a unknown and it paid off
Dr. J had a shoe , Magic and Bird also had shoes and the Ice Man George Gervin was the first nike basketball athlete in 1972.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYo-cszbFc8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmkwzqG4How&feature=related
no question Jordan and Nike grew together but to say he was the only person to have a shoe deal is well uninformed .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAoDIJAhC64
Micheal Jordan at that point was just following in the footsteps of Dr.J as a singular face of a league. When kids were
coming up in the 70s they wanted to be like Dr. J with the fro and the whole 9 -
The Michael Jordan Story: Part 1 - The Early Years, 1981-1991
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXTfwNwHw_s
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now players ? on him
We were trying to feature Larry, which we should have. I mean, he was the best player in the league at that time. Moses and Doc had just won the championship. Larry and Moses had been MVPs of the league."
And there was also the fact that Thomas, himself an icon in Indiana, was having a good game of his own. He scored 17 points in the first half but was limited in the second by a muscle pull in his left thigh.
"I was at home," he said, "and I had a good game going." Jordan, on the other hand, did not.
He appeared uneasy at the outset, mishandling passes and losing control of his dribble. At the time, his jump shot was a weakness, so defenders sagged in an effort to cut off his driving angles, keeping him on the perimeter. He finished the game with seven points, on two of nine shooting, in 22 minutes.
Only two East teammates played substantially more: Bird (31 minutes) and Malone (33 minutes). Thomas played 25 and Erving 23. Reserve Bernard King, the league's leading scorer, played 22.
The shots were similarly distributed, with one exception: Terry Cummings came off the bench and managed to put up 17 in 16 minutes. Among the starters, Bird took 16 shots, Erving 15, Thomas 14 and Malone and King 10 apiece.
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MC The Rapper wrote: »waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »He always had corporate influence it only grew as his career progressed.
I semi agree with you and i understand what you are saying and i am not disagreeing with you, but i will say that Michael Jordan was always Marketable....but when he came in the league Jordan was known as a cocky kid, a ball hogger, show boater, selfish.....and he only can play Above the Rim they mocked him for rocking gold around the neck you would of thought he was Allen Iverson, they over looked his whole game.
But when NBA start seeing how the Bulls hats and jackets was flying off the shelves and how Jordan was held in the urban community when the mainstream and Nba players was ? on Michael because he was lighting they ? up, then they seen the dollar signs, but didnt want to make the move because they still had Bird and Magic who owned the NBA
The whole NBA players ? on him is a myth. He was a corporate spokesman from jump. The whole nike
controversy during his first season is proof of that.
man in 1984 Nike wasn't a mover or maker like it is now, Nike was a white running shoe and was rocked by white athletes like steve carlton, that was a fact. They was smart on signing Jordan and it was the hood that brought those Jordans in 1984 to make it the highest selling shoe that year. Yeah it was a big deal how in the hell a player out of college got a shoe contract when Magic, Bird, Dr. J didnt have a contract and was still rocking Ponys.
Again much props on Nike to take a gamble on a college player, that's why they are running ? they had the hindsight to see into the future and like any great company you take a gamble and invest in money into a unknown and it paid off
Dr. J had a shoe , Magic and Bird also had shoes and the Ice Man George Gervin was the first nike basketball athlete in 1972.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYo-cszbFc8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmkwzqG4How&feature=related
no question Jordan and Nike grew together but to say he was the only person to have a shoe deal is well uninformed .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAoDIJAhC64
Micheal Jordan at that point was just following in the footsteps of Dr.J as a singular face of a league. When kids were
coming up in the 70s they wanted to be like Dr. J with the fro and the whole 9
bruh i know about the Nike Blazer's that George Gervin was asked to wear Nike shoes to compete with The Ponys and All Pro's Converse, but it took Nikes years to get that white running shoe tag label off of them. and yes Converse had Magic and Larry Bird to rock the converse, i remember those commerical those Converse commericals was from 1985
and Dr. J was endorsing shoes the same way Walt frazier did before him with PUMA's
MICHAEL JORDAN had his own shoe with his own name in 1984 as a rookie, Bird and Magic been in the league for 6 years already when they got the converse deal. 1984 jordan as a rookie was the only cat on the court with his name on a shoe that was made after him...? i would be mad to, lol....
and if you would of read the O/P i said that the hood had love for Dr. J in the 70's. i already gave respect where respect is due.
but next time i make myself more clear......
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NOW there were NBA players that was endorsing shoes like Walt Frazier for Pumas and Dr. J for Converse and Ice Man for Nike
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waterproof be making GOAT threads
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a big deal how in the hell a player out of college got a shoe contract when Magic, Bird, Dr. J didnt have a contract and was still rocking Ponys.
You trying to make it seem like ? were mad about his success which is untrue and that he was ? on them but he was just scoring points on a ? ass team that team didn't win his first season and his third season they were below 500. He was a popular player yes so just stay in that lane. stop with the Jordan vs the world rhetoric . If anything Jordan was the herb for stopping Isaiah from getting on the Dream Team . -
waterproof be making GOAT threads
@Mrcj, Jordan did hurt Chamillionaire feelings with that I take pictures with No ? , that ? was coldblooded
The Chamillionaire/Michael Jordan Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow
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MC The Rapper wrote: »now players ? on him
We were trying to feature Larry, which we should have. I mean, he was the best player in the league at that time. Moses and Doc had just won the championship. Larry and Moses had been MVPs of the league."
And there was also the fact that Thomas, himself an icon in Indiana, was having a good game of his own. He scored 17 points in the first half but was limited in the second by a muscle pull in his left thigh.
"I was at home," he said, "and I had a good game going." Jordan, on the other hand, did not.
He appeared uneasy at the outset, mishandling passes and losing control of his dribble. At the time, his jump shot was a weakness, so defenders sagged in an effort to cut off his driving angles, keeping him on the perimeter. He finished the game with seven points, on two of nine shooting, in 22 minutes.
Only two East teammates played substantially more: Bird (31 minutes) and Malone (33 minutes). Thomas played 25 and Erving 23. Reserve Bernard King, the league's leading scorer, played 22.
The shots were similarly distributed, with one exception: Terry Cummings came off the bench and managed to put up 17 in 16 minutes. Among the starters, Bird took 16 shots, Erving 15, Thomas 14 and Malone and King 10 apiece.
http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/isiah_freezeout.html
of course they going to ? on Jordan, Jordan dont care that ? fueled the young Mike to be the best in the league, look here, lol....... i am far from a Jordan fan i was following the bad boys and Sixers for my pops was a sixer fan and a big Dr. J fan, and i always rooted against Jordan..... but i aint a hater........
Jordan plays to win he didn't give a ? about Bird playing at home for the all star, Jordan is going to eat, the same thing happen with Magic when he came back for the all star game ? was playing soft on Magic, Jordan was playing close up in your face D on Magic even down to the last seconds.....how can you hate a player that play with passion for the game and put it time on and off the court.
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waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »now players ? on him
We were trying to feature Larry, which we should have. I mean, he was the best player in the league at that time. Moses and Doc had just won the championship. Larry and Moses had been MVPs of the league."
And there was also the fact that Thomas, himself an icon in Indiana, was having a good game of his own. He scored 17 points in the first half but was limited in the second by a muscle pull in his left thigh.
"I was at home," he said, "and I had a good game going." Jordan, on the other hand, did not.
He appeared uneasy at the outset, mishandling passes and losing control of his dribble. At the time, his jump shot was a weakness, so defenders sagged in an effort to cut off his driving angles, keeping him on the perimeter. He finished the game with seven points, on two of nine shooting, in 22 minutes.
Only two East teammates played substantially more: Bird (31 minutes) and Malone (33 minutes). Thomas played 25 and Erving 23. Reserve Bernard King, the league's leading scorer, played 22.
The shots were similarly distributed, with one exception: Terry Cummings came off the bench and managed to put up 17 in 16 minutes. Among the starters, Bird took 16 shots, Erving 15, Thomas 14 and Malone and King 10 apiece.
http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/isiah_freezeout.html
of course they going to ? on Jordan, Jordan dont care that ? fueled the young Mike to be the best in the league, look here, lol....... i am far from a Jordan fan i was following the bad boys and Sixers for my pops was a sixer fan and a big Dr. J fan, and i always rooted against Jordan..... but i aint a hater........
Jordan plays to win he didn't give a ? about Bird playing at home for the all star, Jordan is going to eat, the same thing happen with Magic when he came back for the all star game ? was playing soft on Magic, Jordan was playing close up in your face D on Magic even down to the last seconds.....how can you hate a player that play with passion for the game and put it time on and off the court.
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MC The Rapper wrote: »a big deal how in the hell a player out of college got a shoe contract when Magic, Bird, Dr. J didnt have a contract and was still rocking Ponys.
You trying to make it seem like ? were mad about his success which is untrue and that he was ? on them but he was just scoring points on a ? ass team that team didn't win his first season and his third season they were below 500. He was a popular player yes so just stay in that lane. stop with the Jordan vs the world rhetoric . If anything Jordan was the herb for stopping Isaiah from getting on the Dream Team .
i call your ? , show me a post in this thread that i made it seem that ? was ? on his success, i said Jordan was label cocky, ball hogger, only can play above the rim. And they was mad because Jordan came in the league with that i dont care how great you are i am better attitude, and he was playing against the best and lighting they ? up, lol.....
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Those black 4's he rocking in them pics drop on the 23rd. I' ll have 'em.
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waterproof wrote: »MC The Rapper wrote: »a big deal how in the hell a player out of college got a shoe contract when Magic, Bird, Dr. J didnt have a contract and was still rocking Ponys.
You trying to make it seem like ? were mad about his success which is untrue and that he was ? on them but he was just scoring points on a ? ass team that team didn't win his first season and his third season they were below 500. He was a popular player yes so just stay in that lane. stop with the Jordan vs the world rhetoric . If anything Jordan was the herb for stopping Isaiah from getting on the Dream Team .
i call your ? , show me a post in this thread that i made it seem that ? was ? on his success, i said Jordan was label cocky, ball hogger, only can play above the rim. And they was mad because Jordan came in the league with that i dont care how great you are i am better attitude, and he was playing against the best and lighting they ? up, lol.....
i think he really always played that way. at least up until the retirement... i'm pretty sure he was taking as many shots back in those years per game and getting about the same amount of assists as he was during the years after 1990. about the only thing that changed about his game was the fadeaway, which really developed into his go to move once he came back from retirement. -
lol @ "hood champion". And gimme my negrodamus points for predicting to myself that I would see that Chamillionaire story in here before I clicked in. lol
Shouts out to my all my ? with a pair of Southpole jeans collecting dust somewhere in your crib.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j_TACFfHd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C0J8HDLETA
