The Source Awards 1995 [Full]

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  • hiphop12345
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    O yea, Puff won.
  • CirocObama
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    CirocObama wrote: »
    It's good people are re watching. Suge then snoop started that ? , before then it was tension but the crowd was showing love. Dre got louder cheers than Biggie at that time, Nas also.

    Not true. Even people that were there will tell you different. People would even yell out ? to all the non-east dudes during the breaks.

    Did you watch the footage? Do you mean rivals were yelling ? at each other? Why would the audience hate the West coast acts who were all over tv? The south they just didn't give a ? about because they didn't get burn.
    TheBossman wrote: »
    some things about that show,

    more blame should of been on upn (i think that's the station that broadcasted it) for not editing out all the east coast/west coast ? talk.

    im sure if you asked snoop if he regrets what he said at that awards he would wish he never said that.

    i forgot how big craig mack was at this point in the 90's. he fell off mad quick.

    badboy had the better label when it came too all the different talent they had. but aftermath had the "big 3" tho...

    That award was teh Craig Mack and Dr. Dre show but as rapmastermind said, Biggie was crowd that night(thanks to Death row).

    No, people in the crowd would yell ? like "? the west coast" and things like that. That's why you saw a few artist get up and yell "Eastcoooooast" (ie. Craig Mack) or some ? during their acceptance speeches. That only kept the crowd going and kept the divide stronger when the artists did that.

    They did it in 1994, they did it to NWA years prior. You gotta understand that alot of people had the mentality of, "we started hip-hop so it belongs to us and/or should sound like the way it sounds when we did it" mentality. So that's why they disliked alot of acts who didn't do that or fit that mode. So when they were yelling "eeeeastcoaast" and all that it was like saying "eastcoaaast hip-hop/we started this ? " or whatever. They always felt that west coast were rapping about dumb ? that applied to the pop audience, which is ironic now cuz we look back at it and call it classic music.
  • stupot0607
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    Man.... Respect to RZA, Wu Tang and Dr.Dre & Ed Lover for at least trying to keep it positive...

    I got a urge to watch Jumanji haha, think the last time i saw that film was 1995.
  • stupot0607
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    & LOL at Craig Mack "every year after that".....
  • hiphop12345
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    CirocObama wrote: »
    CirocObama wrote: »
    It's good people are re watching. Suge then snoop started that ? , before then it was tension but the crowd was showing love. Dre got louder cheers than Biggie at that time, Nas also.

    Not true. Even people that were there will tell you different. People would even yell out ? to all the non-east dudes during the breaks.

    Did you watch the footage? Do you mean rivals were yelling ? at each other? Why would the audience hate the West coast acts who were all over tv? The south they just didn't give a ? about because they didn't get burn.
    TheBossman wrote: »
    some things about that show,

    more blame should of been on upn (i think that's the station that broadcasted it) for not editing out all the east coast/west coast ? talk.

    im sure if you asked snoop if he regrets what he said at that awards he would wish he never said that.

    i forgot how big craig mack was at this point in the 90's. he fell off mad quick.

    badboy had the better label when it came too all the different talent they had. but aftermath had the "big 3" tho...

    That award was teh Craig Mack and Dr. Dre show but as rapmastermind said, Biggie was crowd that night(thanks to Death row).

    No, people in the crowd would yell ? like "? the west coast" and things like that. That's why you saw a few artist get up and yell "Eastcoooooast" (ie. Craig Mack) or some ? during their acceptance speeches. That only kept the crowd going and kept the divide stronger when the artists did that.

    They did it in 1994, they did it to NWA years prior. You gotta understand that alot of people had the mentality of, "we started hip-hop so it belongs to us and/or should sound like the way it sounds when we did it" mentality. So that's why they disliked alot of acts who didn't do that or fit that mode. So when they were yelling "eeeeastcoaast" and all that it was like saying "eastcoaaast hip-hop/we started this ? " or whatever. They always felt that west coast were rapping about dumb ? that applied to the pop audience, which is ironic now cuz we look back at it and call it classic music.



    Seem like Craig yelled Eastcoast after the Snoop thing. Its been a minute since originally seeing it but this video kind of show that.

    The rest of what you're saying is half truths, because if it was so much animosity from the jump why did Cube go out East?
  • 5th Letter
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    plus big and ghostface/raekwon had issues too. a whole lot of tension in that building.
  • CirocObama
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    CirocObama wrote: »
    CirocObama wrote: »
    It's good people are re watching. Suge then snoop started that ? , before then it was tension but the crowd was showing love. Dre got louder cheers than Biggie at that time, Nas also.

    Not true. Even people that were there will tell you different. People would even yell out ? to all the non-east dudes during the breaks.

    Did you watch the footage? Do you mean rivals were yelling ? at each other? Why would the audience hate the West coast acts who were all over tv? The south they just didn't give a ? about because they didn't get burn.
    TheBossman wrote: »
    some things about that show,

    more blame should of been on upn (i think that's the station that broadcasted it) for not editing out all the east coast/west coast ? talk.

    im sure if you asked snoop if he regrets what he said at that awards he would wish he never said that.

    i forgot how big craig mack was at this point in the 90's. he fell off mad quick.

    badboy had the better label when it came too all the different talent they had. but aftermath had the "big 3" tho...

    That award was teh Craig Mack and Dr. Dre show but as rapmastermind said, Biggie was crowd that night(thanks to Death row).

    No, people in the crowd would yell ? like "? the west coast" and things like that. That's why you saw a few artist get up and yell "Eastcoooooast" (ie. Craig Mack) or some ? during their acceptance speeches. That only kept the crowd going and kept the divide stronger when the artists did that.

    They did it in 1994, they did it to NWA years prior. You gotta understand that alot of people had the mentality of, "we started hip-hop so it belongs to us and/or should sound like the way it sounds when we did it" mentality. So that's why they disliked alot of acts who didn't do that or fit that mode. So when they were yelling "eeeeastcoaast" and all that it was like saying "eastcoaaast hip-hop/we started this ? " or whatever. They always felt that west coast were rapping about dumb ? that applied to the pop audience, which is ironic now cuz we look back at it and call it classic music.


    The rest of what you're saying is half truths, because if it was so much animosity from the jump why did Cube go out East?

    I can't answer you if you seriously just said this, smh.
  • Rahlow
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    Good drop
    Was 22 when this aired
  • CirocObama
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    Rahlow wrote: »
    Good drop
    Was 22 when this aired

    Word? Did you get to see this live? If so, do you remember how you reacted at some of the things?
  • Rahlow
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    2Pac Dis Bad Boy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3YegOv2zMQ
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1uwKfbztVE
    
  • hiphop12345
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    CirocObama wrote: »
    CirocObama wrote: »


    The rest of what you're saying is half truths, because if it was so much animosity from the jump why did Cube go out East?

    I can't answer you if you seriously just said this, smh.

    Explain why Cube was getting so much love in New York?
  • a_list
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    I rember catcing this ? at late night...I rember a few people talkin about it before so it was cool to finally see it.....I think this is when a lot of cats saw that those 80's word up magazine pics and thought that the game was that happy go lucky, unified we have no problems thing saw what it really was....respect to those that saw the bigger picture that night, but yo that tension was out of control
  • Bayish
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    Here's something most people didn't catch. The last cell to the right during Death Row performance has a Pac cardboard cut out in it!!!!!!!
  • Bayish
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    One more thing I always taught would have made it the greatest hip hop event of all time. If they would have bail Pac out, brought him out to California Love "out on bail out of jail California dreamin"
  • The Nuisance
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    D.D.S. wrote: »
    lol @ all those ? jumpin on stage when biggie won album of the year

    Yeah they was letting the West know, no matter how tough you are you're in the East, that's all.
  • CirocObama
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    Bayish wrote: »
    Here's something most people didn't catch. The last cell to the right during Death Row performance has a Pac cardboard cut out in it!!!!!!!

    Yeah i remember discovering that only like 6 years ago and telling it to people here. Alot of people still haven't noticed it. It was like a month or 2 before he got out.
  • CirocObama
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    Nate dogg my ? but he sounded horrible live

    True. I think he knew it tho if you look at his reaction when his performance ended. I'm sure he was either lit or had been drinking too, or maybe he hadn't perfected the art of live performances that well cuz when they did House Of Blues the following year he was doing nice.
  • MARIO_DRO
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    ? AINT SHOW BONE THUGS NO LOVE
  • MARIO_DRO
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    WHICH CLIP HAS OUTKAST WINNING THEIR AWARD?
  • StillFaggyAF
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    a great moment in hip hop history.....but also one big ? moment