Lupe's wordplay on the Fahrenheit series was far more advanced than anything Jay-Z ever did

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  • 1of1
    1of1 Members Posts: 37,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @s2jepeka you're not wrong about the dopeness of what you just posted, however I think wordplay and lyricism are not one and the same. You're touching more on lyricism with that stuff b/c you feel it. Jay is an amazing lyricist partly because he poses philosophical questions that get the mind thinking and he's witty.

    Wordplay is something different. That "Say Something" freestyle is riddled with masterful wordplay.
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  • S2J
    S2J Members Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Jay-Z
    buttuh_b wrote: »
    I never even heard Friend of the People.
    s2jepeka wrote: »
    Bet money half the nggas biggin up Lupe for what he did BACK THEN, don't even listenin to him RIGHT NOW.

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  • achewon87
    achewon87 Members Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lupe Fiasco
    buttuh_b wrote: »
    I never even heard Friend of the People.

    Get on it.

    Double Burger with Cheese
    Lightwork
    SLR

    Some of my faves off of that tape.

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  • international
    international Members Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    s2jepeka wrote: »
    To wrap up my point, Lupe is dope af, but if we talkin lyrics ALL of it matters, not just bein witty and perplex, but also the impact, truthfulness, and intelligence behind the lyrics. Thats where Jay is not bein touched by Lupe.

    THATS ALSO WHY EVERYBODY WENT HAM OVER LOADED LUX

    Some true ? that opens your eyes on some 'oh ? i never thought of that'>>>>>>>'oh ? he spelled it backwards then rhymed it with the...'


    Example:
    Hov got flow tho he's no big or pac
    But im close, How im posed to win they got me fightin ghosts

    Same sword they knight you, they gon goodnite you wit
    Shhh, thats only half if they like you
    Dont believe me, ask Michael, see martin, see malcolm,
    See biggie, see pac, see success and its outcome
    See Jesus, see Judas, see Caesar, see Brutus,
    See success is like suicide

    Truth. No alphabet raps, no rubix cube raps, just truth.

    See in those raps there, he had the opportunity, but was unable to pull of how Biggie did wit the 'like Mike' ? :

    I perform like Mike
    Anyone Tyson, Jordan, Jackson, action, pack guns
    Ridiculous and I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch
    Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

    With those lyrics the poster quoted by Jay there was an opportunity for him to have that type of quote in his repertoire but he was incapable of delivering, sounds like he ran outta ideas, could have did better and had created a memorable moment in hip hop with those lines, but failed to do so, no one ever remembers that ? ...
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  • Breezy_Kilroy
    Breezy_Kilroy Members Posts: 10,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    illedout wrote: »
    @J-Breezy

    bruh who is the broad in the sig??

    trust me i been trying to figure it out but I seen a video of her twerking the name might be in the description
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  • Breezy_Kilroy
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    double post
    not trying to get OT but found her!
    now I don't know if that's the same ass that's in my sig now but I did have the gifs of this video a week ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jaiY4V4yF8&feature=youtu.be
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  • EscoHovNyGo
    EscoHovNyGo Members Posts: 632
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    Lupe Fiasco
    "Submachine holes the size of shaq rings in between your eyes like nose". One of my favorite lines

    Lupe was a lyrical prophet 5 years ago ... Definitely look up his tracks from 07-08
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  • EscoHovNyGo
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    Lupe Fiasco
    achewon87 wrote: »
    buttuh_b wrote: »
    I never even heard Friend of the People.

    Get on it.

    Double Burger with Cheese
    Lightwork
    SLR

    Some of my faves off of that tape.

    SLR was CraY
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  • achewon87
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    Lupe Fiasco
    EscoHovNyGo wrote: »
    achewon87 wrote: »
    buttuh_b wrote: »
    I never even heard Friend of the People.

    Get on it.

    Double Burger with Cheese
    Lightwork
    SLR

    Some of my faves off of that tape.

    SLR was CraY

    Top 5 alive and I only got 2 out!
    School ya on your history, I tell ya what you 'bout
    Fight for all the right things and let the Huey New out
    Pharrell what these ? talkin' 'bout?
    2 man Big Pun, a 1 man Slaughterhouse
    A 2 album Jay-Z, a 1 ? Wu-Tang
    Young and hungry Mos Def, a conscious rappin Lil Wayne
    I don't care for similarities
    Cause I'm a pioneer, not a parody
    These ain't bars, this is barbarity
    SLR... Clarity
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  • D_Rap_Scholar
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    Lupe Fiasco
    J-Breezy wrote: »
    double post
    not trying to get OT but found her!
    now I don't know if that's the same ass that's in my sig now but I did have the gifs of this video a week ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jaiY4V4yF8&feature=youtu.be

    damn, what an ass. good looking on that vid. What about the honeys in your sig?
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  • deathrowzorrow
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    Lupe Fiasco
    We all know that Jay don't write his own lyrics so no of his ? actually hard to write he is overrated
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  • deathrowzorrow
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    Lupe Fiasco
    The only time I was like wow Jay can spit it was when I know Nas wrote that ?
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  • rip.dilla
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    I like Lupe for only one thing: his wittiness with rhymes


    It takes a great deal of talent to do what he does lyrically

    'Dumb It Down' was sarcasm at its finest actually taking a dig at himself and his brand of music . .

    '? Bad' is with a message in a non-chalant flow on a beat that sounds like a modern random 'Trap Beat' . .


    That 6 month child that was murdered recently in Chicago, check out how he keeps her ALIVE with his lyricism in that song he dedicated to her, rather than being mournful . .


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