W.O.N.G. Vol. 12: Eminem
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WackMaan other than Stan this is the only Eminem song I can stomach
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GOAT Status...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpW-lRb0ZBI&feature=youtube_gdata_player >>>>>>>>>> -
Wack? garbage
and yall sit there and let this cracka come and get rich off of our culture
you ? uncle tom ass ? -
Not-OverratedHe's extremely talented. He's one of the few emcees I haven't really seen get outshined on a track. He's good for a dope 16, can freestyle his a*s off, but he can't really construct songs and can't put together cohesive albums. His albums lack any replay value and haven't impacted the game musically. Yeah, he sold a sh!tload of albums, but to who (no offence)?
I honestly think he focusses too much on the technical aspect of rhyming. I really think he sacrifices his overall rhymes for rhymeschemes, multi's, making words rhyme etc. Em gets due praise on his lyricism, delivery and flow but he basically Treach' son and Treach actually did what he been trying to do since the late nineties better in the early and mid nineties. Em's dope but this n*gga's rhyming sh*t like "teener totter, prima donna", I mean, it's not wack but sh*t like that takes away from the rhyme IMHO.
This is lyricism. Especially his first 16. Notice how no words were wasted and he stuck to the theme of that joint...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSWeliCq4s
I've said it in other threads but it's almost criminal for a rapper as talented as him to have a weak discography like he has. His albums range from decent to hot garbage (Relapse, really?). With his discography he can never be a GOAT contender.
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GOAT Status...man how the ? can anybody doubt this guy's influence in the rap game?
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Not-Overrated
Who he influenced? Which credible emcee really followed anything he set? What has he brought to the game that wasn't there before (f*ck the majority of his stanbase cuz they only mess with him and associated acts)? All these multi's, complex rhymeschemes are cool, but his rhymes lack substance and that style been done before him and executed way better by a Treach, a G-Rap etc.man how the ? can anybody doubt this guy's influence in the rap game?
He's a dope emcee, but he ain't set no trends and has no real impact in the game other than being the great white hope for outsiders. This ain't a color thing neither.
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WackMuhannad X wrote: »Treach actually did what he been trying to do since the late nineties better in the early and mid nineties. Em's dope but this n*gga's rhyming sh*t like "teener totter, prima donna", I mean, it's not wack but sh*t like that takes away from the rhyme IMHO.
This is lyricism. Especially his first 16. Notice how no words were wasted and he stuck to the theme of that joint...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZSWeliCq4s
I've said it in other threads but it's almost criminal for a rapper as talented as him to have a weak discography like he has. His albums range from decent to hot garbage (Relapse, really?). With his discography he can never be a GOAT contender.
As for
Thanks for saying this.. Em ain't ? with Treach..
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GOAT Status...Not an easy one.
Why?
As far as rapping goes he's one of the greatest to ever do it imo... buuut his catalogue could've/should've been so much better.
SSLP+MMLP+EM show=
Unfortunately, almost everything after that was disappointing. His voice, the yelling and some really wack tracks.
I've noticed the IC usually doesn't show much love for Em but that's cool, to each his own.
I think the brainless stanbase doesn't help either but that ain't em's fault.
At the end of the day, he can still spit like crazy so i'm gonna give him the GOAT status anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dVZ26YKu70
6:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRqmWW_QTSU
2:00
Hopefully stans and haters who don't bring a decent argument to the table, stay away.
Don't count on it doe.
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Overratedhe's overrated. my thing with eminem is this. there are plenty of rappers that had solid runs but don't get that goat treatment like eminem, and the ones that do get goat considerations are the ones that transcended the genre (Rakim, Big Daddy, Tupac, Biggie, Nas, LL Cool J, Jay Z etc) Eminem did not transcend the genre to that level where he should be getting all these accolades bestowed upon him. He's a good rapper that sold a lot of records and dropped a few good albums. All this extra goat ? seems forced and unnatural.
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Not-OverratedHe is a talented mc that can rap his ass off, but the albums he make are complete ? and they never really lived up to his full potential.
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GOAT Status...
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GOAT Status...Lol at people denying his goat status. It's hard to accept a white rapper ruling black music.
Em's impact on the game:
-Battling existed for awhile but 8 Mile brought it to a wider audience.
-Dre discovered Em, but Dre was falling off when The Firm flopped so Em saved his ass.
-how many white rappers can be mentioned from the time vanilla ice fell off to eminem getting signed by dre? Not many. Now how many white rappers can you mention since Em blew up? 'nuff said.
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Not-OverratedThe Firm album went platinum, can we stop with that flop nonsense. Dre did his thing on that album, the Track Masters ? it up.
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GOAT Status...This was in 1997 foo. Going 1x platinum that particular year was a flop. This was when biggie and diddy were going 7x platinum so how could a supergroup like the firm sell any less? Plus no one considers the album a classic.
106 and park was national, 8 mile was global. How the hell did BET reach a wider audience? -
WackLol at people denying his goat status. It's hard to accept a white rapper ruling black music.
Em's impact on the game:
-Battling existed for awhile but 8 Mile brought it to a wider audience.
-Dre discovered Em, but Dre was falling off when The Firm flopped so Em saved his ass.
-how many white rappers can be mentioned from the time vanilla ice fell off to eminem getting signed by dre? Not many. Now how many white rappers can you mention since Em blew up? 'nuff said.
8mile brought battling to the forefront
you sound stupid
log yo cracka ass off
if you a cracka and you like eminem you trailer park trash -
WackEminemem ain't have no impact whatsoever
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GOAT Status...Lol at people denying his goat status. It's hard to accept a white rapper ruling black music.
Em's impact on the game:
-Battling existed for awhile but 8 Mile brought it to a wider audience.
-Dre discovered Em, but Dre was falling off when The Firm flopped so Em saved his ass.
-how many white rappers can be mentioned from the time vanilla ice fell off to eminem getting signed by dre? Not many. Now how many white rappers can you mention since Em blew up? 'nuff said.
8mile brought battling to the forefront
you sound stupid
log yo cracka ass off
if you a cracka and you like eminem you trailer park trash
Im korean and my favorite rapper is black. -
GOAT Status...put em in a cypher with anyone of your favorite rappers and i guarantee they wont outshine. I mean yeah hes dropped some lackluster albums but name one rapper who hasn't? But in the midst all the ups and lows in his career hes dropped some amazing unforgettable tracks (stan, sing for a moment, lose yourself, the way i am). Em also brought something to hip hop that was sorely needed.. comedy. Yeah some of it was corny but a lot of it was str8 entertainment comparable to none.
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WackEm also brought something to hip hop that was sorely needed.. comdey. Yeah some of it was corny but a lot of it was str8 entertainment comparable to none.
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If enimen - white skin = hospin
and hospin = wack
it's safe to say eminem is wack and gets pass from ? boys because he's white. -
Not-OverratedYo, at least you guys can say he one of the best lyricist from a technical standpoint.
I can't understand how people praise Pun, Kane, G-Rap and etc
But think Em is wack.
He's not a good artist but he is an impeccable Lyricist. -
WackYo, at least you guys can say he one of the best lyricist from a technical standpoint.
I can't understand how people praise Pun, Kane, G-Rap and etc
But think Em is wack.
He's not a good artist but he is an impeccable Lyricist.
@ohhhla
? vs Boomerang..
Lil ? ? vs Raw..
Squaredance vs Men at Work..
etc....
The overall sounds of the songs that G Rap, Pun and Kane dropped are mad different from the ones Em dropped.. it's mad easy to like G Rap, Kane and Pun and not like Em..
You can rap your ass off from a "technical standpoint" and rap about about ? over wack beats at the same time (Em).. just like how you can rap about some real/important ? , but the flow/delivery can be wack (Talib at times)..
Snoop wasn't the strongest lyricist in 93, but he still dropped a classic because the overall product was very good.. but on the other hand, Fab lyrically dropped heat all throughout the 2000s, but all of his albums are average..
Albums (and to a lesser extent mixtapes) are the most important thing to me when rating/ranking an artist.. NOT saying I think Em is better than Snoop and Fab, but raw skill can only get you but so far in my eyes, especially when you put out garbage like Em did.. -
Not-OverratedMusically, Eminem bores me. I can't listen to the MMLP all the way threw cuz the beats are bland as ? . Also his hooks are terrible.
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Not-OverratedDMTxCannabis wrote: »Yo, at least you guys can say he one of the best lyricist from a technical standpoint.
I can't understand how people praise Pun, Kane, G-Rap and etc
But think Em is wack.
He's not a good artist but he is an impeccable Lyricist.
@ohhhla
? vs Boomerang..
Lil ? ? vs Raw..
Squaredance vs Men at Work..
etc....
The overall sounds of the songs that G Rap, Pun and Kane dropped are mad different from the ones Em dropped.. it's mad easy to like G Rap, Kane and Pun and not like Em..
You can rap your ass off from a "technical standpoint" and rap about about ? over wack beats at the same time (Em).. just like how you can rap about some real/important ? , but the flow/delivery can be wack (Talib at times)..
Snoop wasn't the strongest lyricist in 93, but he still dropped a classic because the overall product was very good.. but on the other hand, Fab lyrically dropped heat all throughout the 2000s, but all of his albums are average..
Albums (and to a lesser extent mixtapes) are the most important thing to me when rating/ranking an artist.. NOT saying I think Em is better than Snoop and Fab, but raw skill can only get you but so far in my eyes, especially when you put out garbage like Em did..
I just admitted that Em is a ? artist in terms of what people want.
But his lyricism is impeccable and crazy. Rhyming all kinds of words and using all kind of flows.
I don't like Tyler but I admit he's nice.
I don't like to be biased and just discredit a rapper because his music is ass. -
Not-OverratedDMTxCannabis wrote: »Yo, at least you guys can say he one of the best lyricist from a technical standpoint.
I can't understand how people praise Pun, Kane, G-Rap and etc
But think Em is wack.
He's not a good artist but he is an impeccable Lyricist.
@ohhhla
? vs Boomerang..
Lil ? ? vs Raw..
Squaredance vs Men at Work..
etc....
The overall sounds of the songs that G Rap, Pun and Kane dropped are mad different from the ones Em dropped.. it's mad easy to like G Rap, Kane and Pun and not like Em..
You can rap your ass off from a "technical standpoint" and rap about about ? over wack beats at the same time (Em).. just like how you can rap about some real/important ? , but the flow/delivery can be wack (Talib at times)..
Snoop wasn't the strongest lyricist in 93, but he still dropped a classic because the overall product was very good.. but on the other hand, Fab lyrically dropped heat all throughout the 2000s, but all of his albums are average..
Albums (and to a lesser extent mixtapes) are the most important thing to me when rating/ranking an artist.. NOT saying I think Em is better than Snoop and Fab, but raw skill can only get you but so far in my eyes, especially when you put out garbage like Em did..
I just admitted that Em is a ? artist in terms of what people want.
But his lyricism is impeccable and crazy. Rhyming all kinds of words and using all kind of flows.
I don't like Tyler but I admit he's nice.
I don't like to be biased and just discredit a rapper because his music is ass.
Really?
