Why Do Down South Cats Like and Support Garbage Rappers?

lmfao @ dis thread dats been made multiple times still goin on wit supreme feelings AGAIN

This thread been made since I originally signed up in late '03 and everytime it does numbers and got people in their emotions. Just accept the fact certain rappers you might like suck @ rapping and KIM. Wackness isn't a matter of opinion.

That whole giving wack n*ggas passes, "let him get his money" type attitude has lowered the bar to the point any wack n*gga can get into the game if he has connections. The south's rise symbolized regression and even devaluation of the craft of an emcee. How many nice rappers from the south came out after the mid nineties other than Luda & TI, Cole, Krit and a few others? You can count them on one hand and for every nice rapper there's 10 wack ones.

Muhannad X wrote: »

How are you gonna be a rapper and you can't even talk? How are you a rapper and on 90% of your tracks you talk slow, mumble, slur and chant? How are you having an on wax battle and you're incapable of spitting one clever, memorable line?

People can get emotional all they want but everybody knows a wack emcee's material will be played out fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6-hOMNv5I

Who's still bumpin' this garbage? That joint got carried by the beat. That n*gga was just talking slow. Anybody could've done this. Every verse this n*gga spat in his life sounded like this. Since he came out he hasn't improved and why should he when these fans say sh*t like "let him get his money"? Because of that attitude of giving passes these wack n*ggas got no incentive to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poGBJr7h1sc

See the difference between real emcees and ex-drugdealers that found a new hustle? I used to f*ck with this sh*t heavy in late '99. Cool Breeze was my sh*t. Dungeon Fam was my sh*t.

You basically said it: Ex-drug dealers finding a legal new hustle.

It's like this:

The real reason they'll support this because they are (maybe) what Shawty Lo used to do: making illegal money. Even though Shawty Lo never really had the gift or talent to be considered a true emcee (battling, spitting one clever line) the fact that he got out of the negative element that could put him in jail for years by doing something like making rap music, even though he's not good at it is championed by the dudes that support this..because it's that life, that real ? they're accustomed to.

And to add to the fact, where do most drug dealers hang out the most after spending hours in the trap? The club.
So the sounds (the beat), the reactions of the peeps in the clubs when it comes on is embedded in them and that's first hand to them when doing the music.

Being a lyrical beast isn't the first thing that comes to mind.

Disciplined InSight wrote: »

Muhannad X wrote: »

How are you gonna be a rapper and you can't even talk? How are you a rapper and on 90% of your tracks you talk slow, mumble, slur and chant? How are you having an on wax battle and you're incapable of spitting one clever, memorable line?

People can get emotional all they want but everybody knows a wack emcee's material will be played out fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6-hOMNv5I

Who's still bumpin' this garbage? That joint got carried by the beat. That n*gga was just talking slow. Anybody could've done this. Every verse this n*gga spat in his life sounded like this. Since he came out he hasn't improved and why should he when these fans say sh*t like "let him get his money"? Because of that attitude of giving passes these wack n*ggas got no incentive to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poGBJr7h1sc

See the difference between real emcees and ex-drugdealers that found a new hustle? I used to f*ck with this sh*t heavy in late '99. Cool Breeze was my sh*t. Dungeon Fam was my sh*t.

You basically said it: Ex-drug dealers finding a legal new hustle.

It's like this:

The real reason they'll support this because they are (maybe) what Shawty Lo used to do: making illegal money. Even though Shawty Lo never really had the gift or talent to be considered a true emcee (battling, spitting one clever line) the fact that he got out of the negative element that could put him in jail for years by doing something like making rap music, even though he's not good at it is championed by the dudes that support this..because it's that life, that real ? they're accustomed to.

And to add to the fact, where do most drug dealers hang out the most after spending hours in the trap? The club.
So the sounds (the beat), the reactions of the peeps in the clubs when it comes on is embedded in them and that's first hand to them when doing the music.

Being a lyrical beast isn't the first thing that comes to mind.

I see what you're saying and I agree but that is exactly why the bar is lowered to a point any derelict non rappin' a*s n*gga can get in the game. In what world should people support anyone who ain't good at what he does? Let's make a comparison. If a drugdealer decided to go legit and be a grocer and he sold nothing but rotten fruit and garbage, should people support him just because he found him a new way to make his money and while treating that sh*t like a hustle?

I understand these hustlers taking advantage of the bar being lowered to the point they can come in and make easy money, but as long as they put out garbage heads will call 'em out for it.

Knives Amilli wrote: »

Disciplined InSight wrote: »

Muhannad X wrote: »

How are you gonna be a rapper and you can't even talk? How are you a rapper and on 90% of your tracks you talk slow, mumble, slur and chant? How are you having an on wax battle and you're incapable of spitting one clever, memorable line?

People can get emotional all they want but everybody knows a wack emcee's material will be played out fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6-hOMNv5I

Who's still bumpin' this garbage? That joint got carried by the beat. That n*gga was just talking slow. Anybody could've done this. Every verse this n*gga spat in his life sounded like this. Since he came out he hasn't improved and why should he when these fans say sh*t like "let him get his money"? Because of that attitude of giving passes these wack n*ggas got no incentive to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poGBJr7h1sc

See the difference between real emcees and ex-drugdealers that found a new hustle? I used to f*ck with this sh*t heavy in late '99. Cool Breeze was my sh*t. Dungeon Fam was my sh*t.

You basically said it: Ex-drug dealers finding a legal new hustle.

It's like this:

The real reason they'll support this because they are (maybe) what Shawty Lo used to do: making illegal money. Even though Shawty Lo never really had the gift or talent to be considered a true emcee (battling, spitting one clever line) the fact that he got out of the negative element that could put him in jail for years by doing something like making rap music, even though he's not good at it is championed by the dudes that support this..because it's that life, that real ? they're accustomed to.

And to add to the fact, where do most drug dealers hang out the most after spending hours in the trap? The club.
So the sounds (the beat), the reactions of the peeps in the clubs when it comes on is embedded in them and that's first hand to them when doing the music.

Being a lyrical beast isn't the first thing that comes to mind.

Real ? . You said what I was hinting in my long ass post. Exactly why the South so steadfastly supports dboy and hood ? .

Exactly why this is so prevalent in the South and not as bad in other regions? I dont know. But its one those things where yeah its great ? are getting legit money and got out the trap and all......but ? mane some artistic pride and true passion for the craft (as loosely defined as the "craft" is) would be great.

I agree with you and INB4 someone says "artistic pride" is subjective which is the IC's favorite word nowadays.

I guess @SwampNigga doesn't agree with me. You have a rebuttal instead of pushing those emotional buttons?

@ Disciplined InSight. I agree 90% and think you partially answered the question the t/s was asking. I think another factor is the infiority complex some southern fans have. They'll willingly support garbage out of some kind of inferiority complex. Check my posts a few pages back.

When Nas dropped Hip Hop is Dead alot of these 'hustlers' took offence and got emotional, just like we've seen in this thread. If they were really hustlers they wouldn't care about how heads perceive their music and wouldn't take offence since Nas didn't specifically called out any region.

Another thing that hasn't been touched on in this thread enough is how some of these n*ggas embrace their ignorance. They wear their ignorance on their sleave like a badge of honour. Shawty Lo is cool and all but he bragged about his rapsheet and he ain't the only one. You will hear these n*ggas bragging about their rapsheets and any thing non-rap related before you'll hear 'em bragging about their lyrics.

Maximus Rex wrote: »

Turfaholic wrote: »

Muhannad X wrote: »

This thread been made since I originally signed up in late '03 and everytime it does numbers and got people in their emotions. Just accept the fact certain rappers you might like suck @ rapping and KIM. Wackness isn't a matter of opinion.

That whole giving wack n*ggas passes, "let him get his money" type attitude has lowered the bar to the point any wack n*gga can get into the game if he has connections. The south's rise symbolized regression and even devaluation of the craft of an emcee. How many nice rappers from the south came out after the mid nineties other than Luda & TI, Cole, Krit and a few others? You can count them on one hand and for every nice rapper there's 10 wack ones.

Difference is a unqualified bay ? made this punk ass thread

? ? you talking about. I grew up in was born in San Pablo, grew up in Richmond and went to school there. I'm about as Bay as you can get. I just left this ? alone because these ? points of reference completely and totally skewed. They don't know what lyricism and originality in music is. To parapharse quote Rosebudd, explaining why Bay rappers are dope artists to these ? is like "explainin' astrophysics to a muthafuckin' whino." It's completely and utterly points. These ? will in one breath talk about how wack Bay artists and Eminem are, then praise Master P for his supposedly "classic albums." That's a conversation I can't not, and most of all will not engage in. ? is pointless. As a matter of I don't monitor what have been made on this message board, and I honestly thought this particular topic wouldn't get the response it did. I thought it would be done in two pages.

If anybody unqualified it's you because you haven't said a damn to defend the soil, it's as if to say your silence is acquiescence to these ? arguments in defense of their wack ass and ? artwets.

I been defending the turf with a couple about 5 years now. We did it so well nobody disrespected mac Dre. You show up and it all.goes out the window. I could post some Dre ? that would change people mind about him. You just reinforced the stereotype.
I've put ? on Erk. Philthy Rich as well as Shady Nate. Don't come here with that 2003 hyphy ? .

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