AL student fined &diploma held 4 wearing eagle feather in cap for Native American heritage (W/Pics)

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Young_Chitlin
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High school student fined $1,000 and has diploma withheld for wearing eagle feather in graduation cap as symbol of her Native American heritage

By BECKY EVANS

A high school student claims she has been fined $1,000 and had her diploma withheld for wearing an eagle feather in her graduation cap as a symbol of her Native American heritage. Chelsey Ramer, 17, from Alabama, is a member of the Poarch Band of Creek Indians, and wanted to wear the feather to show her pride in her culture. However, she says Escambia Academy High School forbade her from wearing the feather and then refused to give her the diploma when she broke the rules. Now, the teenager says she has been told she cannot pick up the certificate until she pays the fine imposed by the private school.

Miss Ramer told the Indian Country Today Media Network that she was 'excited' about the ceremony on May 23 but has been left dismayed by her school's reaction. She was warned she would be pulled out of the ceremony if she wore the feather but instead was refused her diploma afterwards. She said: 'I feel like this wasn’t fair. It felt like it wasn’t legal. 'It really did hurt my feelings. I have watched others wear it and I looked forward to it my whole four years there. Now when it was my turn, [they said] I couldn’t.' The teenager believes the refusal is 'discrimination'. She said repeated requests from herself and her tribal teacher, as well as other Indian seniors, were turned down. Tribal teacher Alex Alvarez told the network that the eagle feather is an important sign of their heritage and spirituality and the refusal was 'ridiculous'. The teacher said requests before the ceremony to speak to school administrators were turned down.

Mr Alvarez said: 'We don’t have much left as Indian people, to give a child an eagle feather as an achievement should be adhered to.' Miss Ramer said she approached the school's then head teacher Betty Warren about wearing the feather but was refused permission. The teenager said she, like all other graduates, were told they must sign a school contract that states no 'extraneous items' should be worn during the ceremony without prior permission. She said she refused to sign and wore the feather anyway with the full support of her family. A friend tied it to the tassel on her cap.

According to local newspaper the Atmore Advance, Miss Ramer intends to pay the fine and believes the money is worth paying to display her pride. She said: 'It was worth every penny of the thousand dollars. This is what I’ve been waiting on, and I feel like I have a right to wear it.' The newspaper said head teacher Warren resigned after the incident and was replaced.

The school has not commented on Miss Ramer's claims.

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  • damobb2deep
    damobb2deep Members Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    this is bullshyt id ? sue the ? out of them 4 that...
  • Bussy_Getta
    Bussy_Getta Members Posts: 37,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    she got that good hair too
  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bambu wrote: »
    I need somebody to make a gif of Alabama being cut off and blown up like Florida...........

    Thanks in advance...........


  • reapin505
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    I wouldnt pay ? and sue the school ? that
  • Young Gunner
    Young Gunner Members Posts: 7,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like how people say they're gonna do something when they know they aren't suppose to, do it anything, get called for it and then wanna scream ? and say it's not fair
  • Lurker6
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    they told her not to do that and what would happen if she did......smh@ her acting surprised when they withheld her ? . All she had to do is wait a few min, to put that ? on and take pics with her folks
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  • unspoken_respect
    unspoken_respect Members Posts: 9,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They got that 70's filter on.
  • Copper
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    Chicity wrote: »
    only ppl that can show off their culture and heritage in America is WASP and Jews

    anyone else that does it is 'refusing to let go of the past'

    co sign 100 %

    she aint Indian though
  • damobb2deep
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    I like how people say they're gonna do something when they know they aren't suppose to, do it anything, get called for it and then wanna scream ? and say it's not fair
    Lurker6 wrote: »
    they told her not to do that and what would happen if she did......smh@ her acting surprised when they withheld her ? . All she had to do is wait a few min, to put that ? on and take pics with her folks

    it dont matter tho its still not right tho... any person can see she is not doing any harm... if she was a ? ( and had a rainbow on her somwhere) black (and had a power fist)
    mexican ( and had a Mexican flag) or even a confederate flag 4 southern pride so many organizations would be in a uproar..

    dats petty...
  • Alpha_Ambition
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    I mean they told her she couldn't and she did anyways and is upset because she is paying the consequences?

    SMH
  • ghostdog56
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    I aint never seen a real native american in my life but I dont think they look like this. She reminds me of this white ? I used to work with who claimed to be part indian, she had dreads and all. Anybody have any pics of a real native american?
  • shit happens
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    ghostdog56 wrote: »
    I aint never seen a real native american in my life but I dont think they look like this. She reminds me of this white ? I used to work with who claimed to be part indian, she had dreads and all. Anybody have any pics of a real native american?

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  • ghostdog56
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    ? happens wrote: »
    ghostdog56 wrote: »
    I aint never seen a real native american in my life but I dont think they look like this. She reminds me of this white ? I used to work with who claimed to be part indian, she had dreads and all. Anybody have any pics of a real native american?

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    Dam, the white man hit them ? hard

  • BoldChild
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    They told her not to, and she did it anyway.
  • konceptjones
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    ghostdog56 wrote: »
    I aint never seen a real native american in my life but I dont think they look like this. She reminds me of this white ? I used to work with who claimed to be part indian, she had dreads and all. Anybody have any pics of a real native american?

    Quite a few of us are mixed. Like her, I'm mixed, but I'm also a registered tribal member. I vote in tribal elections and could hold office in the tribal council on the reservation and receive profit sharing from our casinos. However, if you see me on the street you'd probably think I'm Afro-Latino (as most Mexicans in PHX did) or just a bruh with "dat good hair".

    I feel her tho. The efforts to suppress the Native culture is ongoing and strong. Nobody would have said anything if she were black and had a small Kente draped over one shoulder or Irish with a small flag pinned to her gown. It was simply an eagle feather, and likely would have gone unnoticed by most in the crowd.

    Where she does have a legal leg to stand on is that ownership of an eagle feather is a federally protected form of Native spirituality. She may be able to sue the school on civil rights grounds.

    I hope she does, and I hope she wins.
  • blackgod813
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    U shouldn't be able to stop people from doing them as long as it doesn't hurt u myob
  • Lurker6
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    she cant sue for ? and it wouldnt of mattered what ethnic background ur from if they say u cant wear some ? on ur gown u cant do it
  • bankrupt baller
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    I like how people say they're gonna do something when they know they aren't suppose to, do it anything, get called for it and then wanna scream ? and say it's not fair

    ? rule but agree with this^
  • Ajackson17
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    Lol, the inside of the box people love control.
  • konceptjones
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    Lurker6 wrote: »
    she cant sue for ? and it wouldnt of mattered what ethnic background ur from if they say u cant wear some ? on ur gown u cant do it

    In most cases, this would be true, but federal Eagle Feather Laws hold the possession of an eagle feather by a Native as a protected form of spiritual expression.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    It's ? up for the school to act that way..

    That said, SMH at people being shocked when they are told not to do something and then punished when they do it anyway. Fair or not, if you do something after being instructed not to, you should be expecting some type of retribution.