Video: Fox News Guest 'Trayvon Martin Would Be Alive Today If He Didn't Have A Street Attitude'

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stringer bell
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6/11/13 - On Tuesday afternoon, former New York City police detective Harry Houck told FoxNews.com that Trayvon Martin would still be alive today if he didn't have "street attitude." Houck was part of a FoxNews.com live panel discussion about George Zimmerman's ongoing trial for the alleged second-degree murder of Martin. After co-panelist Tamara Holder (a criminal defense attorney) pointed out that the state's prosecution will likely point out how Martin was only carrying a bag of candy and a can of iced tea at the time of his death, Houck responded that regardless of whether the selected jury is "impartial," the seed will already have been planted that Martin was an innocent, unarmed teenager:

"She was talking about the Skittles that he had, and the Coca-Cola that Trayvon Martin had. That doesn't look good for the defense because he's injecting something into their minds, like, this is a little kid with candy walking around the street. Listen, Trayvon Martin would be alive today if he didn't have a street attitude. That's the bottom line."
Holder immediately stepped in to say "'street attitude' is a very broad thing and is something that actually can be used as a — and I'm not saying this to you, personally — but something that can be used as something racist, like calling a kid a thug." She pointed out that she herself experienced backlash for using the word "thug" while involved in Chicago legal cases.

"That's insane," Houck chuckled.
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  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Word he was murdered because of his attitude......
    How come oh girl from the dunkin doughnuts video is still breathing?
  • kingkilla
    kingkilla Members Posts: 73
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    Copper wrote: »
    Krakas always screaming about personal rights...u have the right to not answer a crazy person in the middle of the night demanding you're name and address...

    But do you have the right to physical assault that crazy person?
  • Chef_Taylor
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    Smh...racist ? have no respect for this kid.Why couldnt the fox news studio been in oklahoma when that tornado dipped through.
  • Dr. Stitch
    Dr. Stitch Members Posts: 734 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kingkilla wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Krakas always screaming about personal rights...u have the right to not answer a crazy person in the middle of the night demanding you're name and address...

    But do you have the right to physical assault that crazy person?

    Ask that again when some cave cracca kills yo child...
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kingkilla wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Krakas always screaming about personal rights...u have the right to not answer a crazy person in the middle of the night demanding you're name and address...

    But do you have the right to physical assault that crazy person?

    Who hit who first? And how do you know?
    Can u threaten someone with a gun that refused to answer you?
    Do u have the right to ? someone and claim self defense after u chased them?
  • Beech Oss Neega
    Beech Oss Neega Members Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kingkilla wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Krakas always screaming about personal rights...u have the right to not answer a crazy person in the middle of the night demanding you're name and address...

    But do you have the right to physical assault that crazy person?

    It's called self defense. He had every right to beat Zimmermans punk ? ass.
  • stringer bell
    stringer bell Members Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fox News Turns To Mark Fuhrman For Comment on Zimmerman Trial

    Mark Fuhrman should be in jail somewhere, but instead he's the go-to guy for Fox News when it comes to criminal trials. Not just any criminal trial, either. No, former Detective Mark Fuhrman is the guy Fox News is using for commentary on the high-profile George Zimmerman trial. Zimmerman, you may recall, is on trial for the murder of Trayvon Martin, after a firestorm of protest was unleashed at law enforcement's initial refusal to prosecute Zimmerman due to Florida's ALEC-authored "Stand Your Ground" law.

    For those of you reading this who are younger than age 30 or so, Mark Fuhrman was the policeman who blew up the OJ Simpson criminal trial because of his deep, ingrained hatred of black people.

    Media Matters:

    "During the 1995 murder trial of O.J. Simpson, the defense produced a tape of Fuhrman, who collected evidence in the case, using the word n*****more than 40 times over a 10 year period. The person who made the tape said Fuhrman used the slur "in a very casual ordinary pattern of speech. It was nothing extraordinary. It was just conversation." During the O.J. Simpson trial, a number of other witnesses testified that Fuhrman was a racist. Fuhrman, who testified during the trial that he had not used a racial slur in the past 10 years, pled no contest to perjury charges and was sentenced to three years of probation.

    During a 2006 appearance on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Fuhrman, who is a Fox News contributor, said that the type of "people" he "dealt with ... for 20 years" while working in law enforcement will "? somebody and go have some chicken at KFC. You will catch them eating chicken and drinking a beer after they just murdered three people." Co-host Alan Colmes challenged Fuhrman for using racially charged language, an allegation Fuhrman denied. Fuhrman has also appeared on Fox to defend a group of white police officers who were videotaped beating an African American man."

    This is not a surprise to anyone who has lived in Los Angeles for any period of time. Not all LAPD officers are bigots, but there are bigots in the LAPD, and Fuhrman was just one of the boys back then. The only thing that's changed between now and then is that Fuhrman gets paid a lot more to spew his racist garbage on the air than he ever did while working for the LAPD. His racism allowed the OJ defense team to successfully argue that evidence had been tampered with to frame Simpson for the crime. It wasn't until a civil trial with a lower standard of proof that Simpson was held accountable at all for the murders of his wife and friend Ronald Goldman, and that miscarriage of justice can be laid at the feet of Mark Fuhrman.

    It takes a high lack of self-awareness for Fox News to put Fuhrman on to comment on the Trayvon Martin case, which is loaded with racial overtones. In this segment, former Detective Fuhrman tells Megyn Kelly jury selection "is the entire case." It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what he's really saying there, but in case anyone missed it, Fuhrman's message is simple: Pick jurors who don't care about evidence and do care about race.

    Keep it classy, Fox.

    Faux News at its best...
  • Real Lady2
    Real Lady2 Members Posts: 749 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Im sick of people acting like street and ghetto is fictional like it's just a attitude and swag. Street and ghetto is environment and some people wouldn't act that way if they didn't come out of that type of environment
  • powerman 5000
    powerman 5000 Members Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kingkilla wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Krakas always screaming about personal rights...u have the right to not answer a crazy person in the middle of the night demanding you're name and address...

    But do you have the right to physical assault that crazy person?


    after it's WELL documented that you tried to RUN away from them......
  • kingkilla
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    Copper wrote: »
    kingkilla wrote: »
    Copper wrote: »
    Krakas always screaming about personal rights...u have the right to not answer a crazy person in the middle of the night demanding you're name and address...

    But do you have the right to physical assault that crazy person?

    Who hit who first? And how do you know?
    Can u threaten someone with a gun that refused to answer you?
    Do u have the right to ? someone and claim self defense after u chased them?

    I dont know who hit first..but how do you know he threaten tm with a gun? maybe it was tucked away and he had to pull it out when tm was bashing his skull into the ground
  • sweetheart93
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    kingkilla wrote: »
    I dont know who hit first..but how do you know he threaten tm with a gun? maybe it was tucked away and he had to pull it out when tm was bashing his skull into the ground

    Zimmerman wouldn't have gotten his skull bashed into the ground if he wasn't stalking teenagers in the middle of the night. :|

  • Chi Snow
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    lol @ anyone who thinks Sly Fox ain't got an agenda

    they the Maury of the news world

    As long as they rating are up and they checks are cut, they give no ?

    I personally don't watch any Fox or Fox Affiliated channels *cept for Football on Sunday, I need that in my life*
  • Ajackson17
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    If he wore proper clothing and especially in hot ass florida than his ass would be alive right now. Now zimmerman should have listen to the police, but sometimes you have to blend in to protect yourself.

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  • sweetheart93
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    If he wore proper clothing and especially in hot ass florida than his ass would be alive right now. Now zimmerman should have listen to the police, but sometimes you have to blend in to protect yourself.

    No, he would still be alive if Zimmerman would have listened to the police. Zimmerman would have still thought he was suspicious even if he wasn't wearing a hoodie.