Did J. Cole open the door for Kendrick Lamar?
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MikeydaGawd wrote: »So yall think kendrick would be this big without being on take care
It's not bout that...Kendrick and Cole have a similar lane/approach to songwriting...They're pretty conscious for mainstream artists...Cole's success/acclaim was a precursor to Kendrick's...Plus Cole was talkin about/tryna collab with Kendrick before Drake ever extended that hand... -
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Idk about that .... I think if kendrick were to look back and thank any of his immediate contemporaries it should be Drake... for taking him out on that big ass college tour with him which allowed Drakes audience (which was huge considering Drake being the hottest young ? in the game at the time) to be introduced to Kendrick's music ..... That type of CS can't be measured ... Same can be said for the other dude on that tour ASAP Rocky
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I first heard about Kendrick Lamar when Cole was pushing him on one of those streams he did before the 1st album came out....but thats where the opening door stops to me.
I think the whole West Coast (Dre, Snoop, Game, etc) coining him the next king out West is what put him on. Musically he's opened his own doors tho. No one else is dropping singles like Swimming Pools and ? Dont ? My Vibe successfully reaching the mainstream while maintaining substance. For as much as I like Cole, all of his singles are just about females. That door has been opened.
I hope Kendrick starts opening doors for dudes like Cole when it comes to making cohesive, concept albums with a variety of topics. Lupe has done it, but his success in that realm is too far removed to say he opened the door. -
Drake putting Kendrick on Take Care and then putting him on his tour did more for Kendrick's career than anything Cole did. Cole's debut was bland
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soul rattler wrote: »If Cole opened the door for "real rappers", then why Big KRIT only sell 41k his first week?
KRIT didn't get that big cosign yet. Like Cole on A Star Is Born and K Dot on Buried Alive, KRIT has gotta get that big feature. And T.I. and Big Boi don't count, they're not exactly super mainstream anymore. -
Kendrick's albums are fire and their greatness is not dependent on Cole
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I found out about Kendrick from J Cole, dude was talking about how dope overly dedicated was.
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How can J Cole open the door for a guy who's better than him? Lol
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Is Kendrick better than cole bar for bar though?
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RodrigueZz wrote: »Is Kendrick better than cole bar for bar though?
Man...HELL YEAH!!! -
And K. Dot was killin ? on the underground when Roc Nation was taking a long ass ? time to drop Coles album and before his verse on Drakes ?
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BET recognizing his talent and letting him do that tour helped him the most.
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I think Cole got K.Dot bar for bar.
His music is not as exciting as K.Dot's tho. -
soul rattler wrote: »If Cole opened the door for "real rappers", then why Big KRIT only sell 41k his first week?
KRIT didn't get that big cosign yet. Like Cole on A Star Is Born and K Dot on Buried Alive, KRIT has gotta get that big feature. And T.I. and Big Boi don't count, they're not exactly super mainstream anymore.
He got cosigned by Ludacris, Bun B, and 8 Ball & MJG. -
Maybe KRIT should shop around his beats a tad more?
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soul rattler wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »If Cole opened the door for "real rappers", then why Big KRIT only sell 41k his first week?
KRIT didn't get that big cosign yet. Like Cole on A Star Is Born and K Dot on Buried Alive, KRIT has gotta get that big feature. And T.I. and Big Boi don't count, they're not exactly super mainstream anymore.
He got cosigned by Ludacris, Bun B, and 8 Ball & MJG.
bun b co-sign damn near everbody luda is washed 8 ball and mjg meh -
ghostf4cekilla wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »If Cole opened the door for "real rappers", then why Big KRIT only sell 41k his first week?
KRIT didn't get that big cosign yet. Like Cole on A Star Is Born and K Dot on Buried Alive, KRIT has gotta get that big feature. And T.I. and Big Boi don't count, they're not exactly super mainstream anymore.
He got cosigned by Ludacris, Bun B, and 8 Ball & MJG.
bun b co-sign damn near everbody luda is washed 8 ball and mjg meh
This, plus neither of them are big mainstream names like that. Getting a Jay Z/Drake cosign in the 2010s>>>>>>>>>>>>... word to Frank Ocean and The Weeknd. -
I think Cole got K.Dot bar for bar.
His music is not as exciting as K.Dot's tho.
Kendric will rap absolute circles around that boy. Im neither a Lamar stan nor a Cole hater but some things should be obvious to the general public and Kendric lyrically better than Cole is one of them -
I'm not saying Cole got it hands down.
I just think he got them. -
lol @ this bs
nobody can rap circles around cole
Cole's best songs >>>>>>>> Any rapper to come out since Cole best songs -
lol @ this bs
nobody can rap circles around cole
Cole's best songs >>>>>>>> Any rapper to come out since Cole best songs
Pshhhhh..... ? outta here wit that ? . His style is very basic, I havent really heard but a few things hes spat that made me reach for the rewind button, most of his singles that get radio play get mad watered down and trite quickly, i mean ? ...nosign me all you want, I dont see what it is Cole does better than Kendric -
lol @ this bs
nobody can rap circles around cole
Cole's best songs >>>>>>>> Any rapper to come out since Cole best songs
K.R.I.T. best songs>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »
lol @ this bs
nobody can rap circles around cole
Cole's best songs >>>>>>>> Any rapper to come out since Cole best songs
K.R.I.T. best songs>>>>>>>>>>>>
you can't prove this -
soul rattler wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »If Cole opened the door for "real rappers", then why Big KRIT only sell 41k his first week?
KRIT didn't get that big cosign yet. Like Cole on A Star Is Born and K Dot on Buried Alive, KRIT has gotta get that big feature. And T.I. and Big Boi don't count, they're not exactly super mainstream anymore.
He got cosigned by Ludacris, Bun B, and 8 Ball & MJG.
That's like getting co-signed by Kweli or Mos Def. Sure it'll get you some respect in the hip hop circles, but it's not exactly going to take your career to a new height. Now a co-sign might not always make you a star or whatever, but that's because the artist has to actually put in the work to realize that potential, but when someone gets a cosign from a heavyweight like jay, kanye, or dre, people perk their ears up. you might not like the artist, but most people will at least check out a song or two to see what made _____ co-sign him or her.
