George Zimmerman Trial Thread (Found Not Guilty Jesus help us...)
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Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
I know the injuries occurred as he stated because he has not been declared crazy by any specialist meaning in order for him to inflict that type of pain on himself (broken nose and laceration to the back of the head) he has to suffer from some type of mental issue to cause it on himself (I work with adults with MR and behavior issues so I see first hand and can produce a video of a client who inflicts serious damage to himself if you want that's how I know you must suffer from a mental illness in order to harm yourself to that extent) unless your saying there was a 3rd party present who helped him hurt himself, I take his word because he has been consistent through out his interviews, he actually does sound convincing to me, I see him as a scary mother ? who did exactly what any scary ma ? would do, (especially nypd, they love to shoot) no it does not make it easier to believe Zimmerman because he is alive, but the injuries are consistent with what he has stated through out the trial, George Zimmerman has not broken any law which is why he is on trial right now and not in jail (trial =A formal examination of evidence by a judge, typically before a jury, in order to decide guilt in a case of criminal or civil proceedings) and no I didn't not serve on a jury, they sent me the jury duty papers and I used it to break down some weed....jury duty does not pay enough for my input, and if im not using comprehension you are thinking like a female and that is with emotion not your head...Zimmerman confronted trayvon, trayvon asked do you have a problem? Zimmerman said no..reached into his pocket to get his phone or the gun, at that point trayvon who was followed sparked Zimmerman because he did not know what he was reaching for and the rest is history...why didn't trayvon keep running if he was running from Zimmerman?? if trayvon didn't hide behing the bushes and seen Zimmerman from a distance why didn't he turn back around and run?? trust me I want to see this fat ? burn just like anybody else but the law does not support that -
desertrain10 wrote: »Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
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and thisZydecoShawty wrote: »Again, a broken nose and 2 minor cuts to the back of the head from an altercation Zimmerman started is not significant enough to justify the use of deadly force to ? a minor in the claim of self-defense when Zimmerman (then a 28 year old man) instigated the events. Sensationalize and exaggerate those injuries all you want. The jury panel isn't a panel made up of lawyers.
again.....the law states if you THINK your life is in danger.....to somebody who has never been in a fight....it can be life or death to them in their minds....certain people were not raised in environments where violence takes place everyday so they may view a fight as life or death where as some may see a fight as a sport...you can not gauge what Zimmerman was thinking that night, but he saved his ass by saying that trayvon said "your gonna die tonight" and stating that he feared for his life...in that sense the law gave him every right to shoot him whether you like it or not....maybe instead of waiting in line for jordans you ? heads will wait in line to vote for new representatives and new laws..... -
are yall ? ? ??? how do you know those injuries occurred as stated.... how the ? else to get you a broken nose and cuts on the back of your head??!?!?!?! please give me one logical explantion in the scenario where a boy was just shot and your thinking o ? lemme break my own nose and give myself cuts on the BACK of my head....yall ? reaching hard
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the law states "if you THINK your life is in danger you have the right to use enough force to change that"
so going by that law, at what point was TM able to stand his ground? If u were being followed by a creepy ? in a vehicle then he got out in foot to pursue u, its plausible that u could have the THOUGHT of your life being in danger -
the law states "if you THINK your life is in danger you have the right to use enough force to change that"
so going by that law, at what point was TM able to stand his ground? If u were being followed by a creepy ? in a vehicle then he got out in foot to pursue u, its plausible that u could have the THOUGHT of your life being in danger
exactly which is why trayvon was correct for defending himself against Zimmerman but once trayvon has knocked George Zimmerman to the ground at that point he should fled because Zimmerman at the time posed no threat to trayvon on the ground but once he got on top of Zimmerman and continued to beat him is when George Zimmerman in turn because the victim because trayvon being on top of him was a threat but not a threat before he got on top -
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you are a threat to me following me around then getting out of your vehicle and following me but once I knock your ass out or to the ground you are not a threat....once I get on top of you and continue to beat you up, I am the threat to you
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You seem to be vert emotional about this. I never.said.he self inflicted those injuries. I asked how do you kno they occured as he stated? Your comprehension is non existent.
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Hyde Parke wrote: »You seem to be vert emotional about this. I never.said.he self inflicted those injuries. I asked how do you kno they occured as he stated? Your comprehension is non existent.
no where did I say I feel in my post so there is no emotion in it, just the facts.... you however, sir, stated that the law is only a fraction of the case at this point....the law is the case nimrod, it wont be decided on feelings and emotion........what public school system did you make it out of??? -
The jury will determine if Zimmerman is guilty. If you think emotion wont play a part this with an all woman jury you are deluding yourself. Im fairly certain my educational background exceeds yours on multiple levels.
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One alternative is that Zimmerman is a martial arts master; able to inflict damage without leaving any evidence. Using this ancient and forbidden secret technique (静风剥离普通话, pronounced "jìng fēng bōlí pǔtōnghuà"; meaning "calm winds peeling the mandarin")--passed down from his grandfather--he was fighting Treyvon and winning with ease.are yall ? ? ??? how do you know those injuries occurred as stated.... how the ? else to get you a broken nose and cuts on the back of your head??!?!?!?! please give me one logical explantion in the scenario where a boy was just shot and your thinking o ? lemme break my own nose and give myself cuts on the BACK of my head....yall ? reaching hard
Treyvon screams for help, Zimmerman relents not; for his plan has already been set in motion.
At some point, Zimmerman senses the chi of a witness approaching close enough to see; this witness is John Good. Quickly, yet silently and swiftly as the spider running across its web, Zimmerman uses Treyvon's center of mass to roll them both over to the concrete and flip Treyvon over on top of himself.
Using Treyvon's pressure points to cause Treyvon's arms to move as though he is attacking Zimmerman, Zimmerman bangs his head into the concrete to make this puppetry undeniably convincing. Treyvon has not given up yet though, he is still screaming for help. Also a master of ventriloquism, Zimmerman matches Treyvon's voice exactly and redirects his screams towards John Good. To the untrained eye and ear, it appears as though Zimmerman is screaming for help, while being beaten.
Zimmerman then uses his own overwhelming chi to fill John Good with fear, the same fear the mouse feels when looking into the eyes of the snake.
Frozen in place momentarily under Zimmerman's evil gaze, the only thing John Good can do is to retreat into his home to call 9/11. Zimmerman seizes this chance to act, "This is the part where you die.", he tells Treyvon. It would be the last thing Treyvon ever heard, for before he could even process those words, Zimmerman quickly removes his gun and shoots him in the heart.
Now all that's left for Zimmerman to do is act; act like the victim and relish in his victory. -
lol your last statement speaks volumes just as this case, fairly certain = reasonable doubt, so since you are unsure if your education background exceeds mine save the pointless remarks for another person whom you are sure your educational background exceeds, im not into extended peeing contestHyde Parke wrote: »The jury will determine if Zimmerman is guilty. If you think emotion wont play a part this with an all woman jury you are deluding yourself. Im fairly certain my educational background exceeds yours on multiple levels.
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lol your last statement speaks volumes just as this case, fairly certain = reasonable doubt, so since you are unsure if your education background exceeds mine save the pointless remarks for another person whom you are sure your educational background exceeds, im not into extended peeing contestHyde Parke wrote: »The jury will determine if Zimmerman is guilty. If you think emotion wont play a part this with an all woman jury you are deluding yourself. Im fairly certain Po my educational background exceeds yours on multiple levels.
serve on a jury then come back with an opinion. probably wouldnt hurt to take a course or two on critical thinking while you are at it. -
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Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
I know the injuries occurred as he stated because he has not been declared crazy by any specialist meaning in order for him to inflict that type of pain on himself (broken nose and laceration to the back of the head) he has to suffer from some type of mental issue to cause it on himself (I work with adults with MR and behavior issues so I see first hand and can produce a video of a client who inflicts serious damage to himself if you want that's how I know you must suffer from a mental illness in order to harm yourself to that extent) unless your saying there was a 3rd party present who helped him hurt himself, I take his word because he has been consistent through out his interviews, he actually does sound convincing to me, I see him as a scary mother ? who did exactly what any scary ma ? would do, (especially nypd, they love to shoot) no it does not make it easier to believe Zimmerman because he is alive, but the injuries are consistent with what he has stated through out the trial, George Zimmerman has not broken any law which is why he is on trial right now and not in jail (trial =A formal examination of evidence by a judge, typically before a jury, in order to decide guilt in a case of criminal or civil proceedings) and no I didn't not serve on a jury, they sent me the jury duty papers and I used it to break down some weed....jury duty does not pay enough for my input, and if im not using comprehension you are thinking like a female and that is with emotion not your head...Zimmerman confronted trayvon, trayvon asked do you have a problem? Zimmerman said no..reached into his pocket to get his phone or the gun, at that point trayvon who was followed sparked Zimmerman because he did not know what he was reaching for and the rest is history...why didn't trayvon keep running if he was running from Zimmerman?? if trayvon didn't hide behing the bushes and seen Zimmerman from a distance why didn't he turn back around and run?? trust me I want to see this fat ? burn just like anybody else but the law does not support that
Smh @ this dude here. Zimmerman had a very clear and plausible reason 2 self inflect those wounds on himself tho. Like u really think just cuz he hasn't been professionally diagnosed as mentally unstable, hes incapable of self inflicting those wounds?? That sounds naive and silly as ? . Crazy ppl hurt themselves just for the hell of it, GZ had a very good reason 2 self inflict his wounds: and that's to save his ass & give credibility to his self defense claim. -
? _i_look_like wrote: »Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
I know the injuries occurred as he stated because he has not been declared crazy by any specialist meaning in order for him to inflict that type of pain on himself (broken nose and laceration to the back of the head) he has to suffer from some type of mental issue to cause it on himself (I work with adults with MR and behavior issues so I see first hand and can produce a video of a client who inflicts serious damage to himself if you want that's how I know you must suffer from a mental illness in order to harm yourself to that extent) unless your saying there was a 3rd party present who helped him hurt himself, I take his word because he has been consistent through out his interviews, he actually does sound convincing to me, I see him as a scary mother ? who did exactly what any scary ma ? would do, (especially nypd, they love to shoot) no it does not make it easier to believe Zimmerman because he is alive, but the injuries are consistent with what he has stated through out the trial, George Zimmerman has not broken any law which is why he is on trial right now and not in jail (trial =A formal examination of evidence by a judge, typically before a jury, in order to decide guilt in a case of criminal or civil proceedings) and no I didn't not serve on a jury, they sent me the jury duty papers and I used it to break down some weed....jury duty does not pay enough for my input, and if im not using comprehension you are thinking like a female and that is with emotion not your head...Zimmerman confronted trayvon, trayvon asked do you have a problem? Zimmerman said no..reached into his pocket to get his phone or the gun, at that point trayvon who was followed sparked Zimmerman because he did not know what he was reaching for and the rest is history...why didn't trayvon keep running if he was running from Zimmerman?? if trayvon didn't hide behing the bushes and seen Zimmerman from a distance why didn't he turn back around and run?? trust me I want to see this fat ? burn just like anybody else but the law does not support that
Smh @ this dude here. Zimmerman had a very clear and plausible reason 2 self inflect those wounds on himself tho. Like u really think just cuz he hasn't been professionally diagnosed as mentally unstable, hes incapable of self inflicting those wounds?? That sounds naive and silly as ? . Crazy ppl hurt themselves just for the hell of it, GZ had a very good reason 2 self inflict his wounds: and that's to save his ass & give credibility to his self defense claim.
im the idiot but you guys are steady reaching, where is the evidence that supports he hurt himself?, there is evidence that supports that trayvon was on top of GZ and that is the gunshot wound that went through his clothes and into his chest, the holes through the clothing and his body are upward supporting the claim that trayvon was on top and shot from GZ who was on the bottom, you guys are reaching with not facts at all like NONE nothing just posing ? questions and making ? statements because you are mad at the circumstances of the case take race out of it and look at the facts, we DONT know if Zimmerman hurt himself but we DO know trayvon was on top of him, and I imagine he wasnt riding him like a ? horse or a ? so what was he doing on top of Zimmerman?? we do know that Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations on the back of his head that night and we also know that trayvon martin was on top of him, we do know that a fight happened because u can hear the 911 tapes and the caller saying that there was a fight going on outside so what we know so far is that there was a fight, trayvon was on top of George Zimmerman, and George Zimmerman got a broken nose and lacerations on the back of his head and trayvon martin was shot, we also know that trayvon was shot at the end of the altercation due to 911 tapes so we know that fight happened before trayvon was shot obviously, those are facts not ? questions or statements you guys have not stated one fact besides the fact that GZ was following trayvon unfortunately that has nothing to do with the murder PER FLORIDA LAW its what happends during and after the altercation not what happened before.... -
Guess what genius? At some point Zimmerman was on top of Trayvon too. Now what?
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at the end of the fight he was on top as he admitted he spread his hands out to "eliminate the threat", he shot him then "disarmed" trayvon by holding his hands out so he could not attack him anymore he said he thought trayvon had something in his hand that's how hard he was hitting him, you cant be mad at Zimmerman he has said the right things that support self defense, he only shot trayvon one time....which helps him even more, yall ? have 0 facts and im starting to think yall aren't even paying attention and just are talkin out of yall ? , yall can do all the name calling and jabs and shots all you want yall ? don't got ya facts straight nor do yall know the law, yall ? probly would copp a plea deal if ever faced with jail time....
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Treyvon had ZERO traces of GZ's DNA under his finger nails. The medical officials even stated in court the other day the tiny cuts/bruises on Treyvons knuckles were so insignificant, its a strong possibility that he already had them on his knuckles. Those are FACTS from professionals under oath. If Treyvon was really beating that ? ass so violently, why do these facts prove otherwise. I don't put much value in these neighborhood witnesses cuz' some of them admitted they could hardly see what was going on, and being too scary to go outside and get a closer look. But we're supposed to believe these testimonials from an event that occurred almost 1.5 years ago? Nobody truly knows what happened during that altercation, but more evidence shows that treyvon wasn't the violent agressor. Not to mention the help scream being silenced by the gunshot and the MMA style blows (GZ was trained in MMA).It don't get much clearer than that. Im done yo..
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desertrain10 wrote: »Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
lol word
and thisZydecoShawty wrote: »Again, a broken nose and 2 minor cuts to the back of the head from an altercation Zimmerman started is not significant enough to justify the use of deadly force to ? a minor in the claim of self-defense when Zimmerman (then a 28 year old man) instigated the events. Sensationalize and exaggerate those injuries all you want. The jury panel isn't a panel made up of lawyers.
again.....the law states if you THINK your life is in danger.....to somebody who has never been in a fight....it can be life or death to them in their minds....certain people were not raised in environments where violence takes place everyday so they may view a fight as life or death where as some may see a fight as a sport...you can not gauge what Zimmerman was thinking that night, but he saved his ass by saying that trayvon said "your gonna die tonight" and stating that he feared for his life...in that sense the law gave him every right to shoot him whether you like it or not....
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if they follow the letter of the law, it's hard to see, based on everything we know now, how they find him guilty of murder unfortunately...no one said differently
but juries don't always follow the letter of the law....juries are notoriously impossible to predict so if gz is convicted i wouldn't be too surprised
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at the end of the fight he was on top as he admitted he spread his hands out to "eliminate the threat", he shot him then "disarmed" trayvon by holding his hands out so he could not attack him anymore he said he thought trayvon had something in his hand that's how hard he was hitting him, you cant be mad at Zimmerman he has said the right things that support self defense, he only shot trayvon one time....which helps him even more, yall ? have 0 facts and im starting to think yall aren't even paying attention and just are talkin out of yall ? , yall can do all the name calling and jabs and shots all you want yall ? don't got ya facts straight nor do yall know the law, yall ? probly would copp a plea deal if ever faced with jail time....
Body wasn't found in that position, stop trolling this board you ? fraud.
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desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
lol word
and thisZydecoShawty wrote: »Again, a broken nose and 2 minor cuts to the back of the head from an altercation Zimmerman started is not significant enough to justify the use of deadly force to ? a minor in the claim of self-defense when Zimmerman (then a 28 year old man) instigated the events. Sensationalize and exaggerate those injuries all you want. The jury panel isn't a panel made up of lawyers.
again.....the law states if you THINK your life is in danger.....to somebody who has never been in a fight....it can be life or death to them in their minds....certain people were not raised in environments where violence takes place everyday so they may view a fight as life or death where as some may see a fight as a sport...you can not gauge what Zimmerman was thinking that night, but he saved his ass by saying that trayvon said "your gonna die tonight" and stating that he feared for his life...in that sense the law gave him every right to shoot him whether you like it or not....
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if they follow the letter of the law, it's hard to see, based on everything we know now, how they find him guilty of murder unfortunately...no one said differently
but juries don't always follow the letter of the law....juries are notoriously impossible to predict so if gz is convicted i wouldn't be too surprised
Yea.. I believe tomorrow is the closing argument for the defense.. See what ? they bring up tomorrow.. Prosecutor closing argument was very strong.. on friday -
That wasn't really a closing argument; that was just them arguing against the acquittal.desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
lol word
and thisZydecoShawty wrote: »Again, a broken nose and 2 minor cuts to the back of the head from an altercation Zimmerman started is not significant enough to justify the use of deadly force to ? a minor in the claim of self-defense when Zimmerman (then a 28 year old man) instigated the events. Sensationalize and exaggerate those injuries all you want. The jury panel isn't a panel made up of lawyers.
again.....the law states if you THINK your life is in danger.....to somebody who has never been in a fight....it can be life or death to them in their minds....certain people were not raised in environments where violence takes place everyday so they may view a fight as life or death where as some may see a fight as a sport...you can not gauge what Zimmerman was thinking that night, but he saved his ass by saying that trayvon said "your gonna die tonight" and stating that he feared for his life...in that sense the law gave him every right to shoot him whether you like it or not....
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if they follow the letter of the law, it's hard to see, based on everything we know now, how they find him guilty of murder unfortunately...no one said differently
but juries don't always follow the letter of the law....juries are notoriously impossible to predict so if gz is convicted i wouldn't be too surprised
Yea.. I believe tomorrow is the closing argument for the defense.. See what ? they bring up tomorrow.. Prosecutor closing argument was very strong.. on friday
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This armagodess ? is soft as ? . First he says trayvon should have fled after getting zimmerman on the ground, then he made some weird ass reference to trayvon riding Zimmerman like a ? or a horse. Wtf? ? is a ? and a troll.
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That wasn't really a closing argument; that was just them arguing against the acquittal.desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »Hyde Parke wrote: »How do you know those injuries occurred as he stated? no witness actually observed a physical fight or.a head being beat into concrete. What just makes you take his word? Does he sound convincing to you? does it make it easier to believe h because the dead guy isnt here to tell his events of what happened? At this point the law is only a fraction of this case. If Zimmerman would have been following the law to the exact letter, there would be no trial right now. I doubt you have ever served on a jury or use everyday comprehension or problem solving skills just by your thought process in this thread.
lol word
and thisZydecoShawty wrote: »Again, a broken nose and 2 minor cuts to the back of the head from an altercation Zimmerman started is not significant enough to justify the use of deadly force to ? a minor in the claim of self-defense when Zimmerman (then a 28 year old man) instigated the events. Sensationalize and exaggerate those injuries all you want. The jury panel isn't a panel made up of lawyers.
again.....the law states if you THINK your life is in danger.....to somebody who has never been in a fight....it can be life or death to them in their minds....certain people were not raised in environments where violence takes place everyday so they may view a fight as life or death where as some may see a fight as a sport...you can not gauge what Zimmerman was thinking that night, but he saved his ass by saying that trayvon said "your gonna die tonight" and stating that he feared for his life...in that sense the law gave him every right to shoot him whether you like it or not....
lol
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if they follow the letter of the law, it's hard to see, based on everything we know now, how they find him guilty of murder unfortunately...no one said differently
but juries don't always follow the letter of the law....juries are notoriously impossible to predict so if gz is convicted i wouldn't be too surprised
Yea.. I believe tomorrow is the closing argument for the defense.. See what ? they bring up tomorrow.. Prosecutor closing argument was very strong.. on friday
The defense hasn't even been at it for a whole day.
hmm.. I forgot all about the acquittal from the defense.. on Friday.. That right.. the prosecution was arguing against the acquittal and the judge ended up denying it.. i heard tomorrow that the defense.. will be bringing in more witnesses..
http://youtu.be/AGBdKt91v1M
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