Who owns the Black Music Publishing?

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  • blackgod813
    blackgod813 Members Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bro if we disturbed the music we own the culture the clothes are women hair care products next we wouldnt need the white man for nothing next black farms they know we wanna re segregate this time owning our own ? with out whites an they hate it
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Michael Jackson acquired the entire Beatles catalogue (and possibly publishing rights) back in the day and that highly infuriated Paul McCartney (he was the one who actually put Mike on game about acquiring back catalogues) ..


    I dunno the status of those catalogues now

    don't think it was the entire Beatles catalogue, a good amount but not the whole thing.

    No! It was the WHOLE thing! He sold 'SOME' of it back to Paul McCartney!


    "In 1984, ATV Music Publishing, which had the copyrights to nearly 4000 songs, including the Northern Songs catalog that contained the majority of the Lennon–McCartney compositions recorded by The Beatles, was put up for sale by Robert Holmes à Court."

  • poindexter2
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    bossflossy wrote: »

    When Irv Gotti, Suge, dame dash, and j-prince wanted to start a distribution company thats when the feds started targeting those guys

    Same with Master P. When he started talking about distribution, thats when all of the propaganda about him being broke came out. What a way to deter investors, right?


    yep, thats what it was. the fact that they were actively hanging with people that were still committing crimes and had rosters full of artists that had crews that contained active individuals had nothing to do with it. irv gotti falling all over himself to associate himself and do business with preme who was actively moving weight and having murders being down in several cities wouldn't make the goverment look into them, also suge's whole history and active involvement with dudes who was putting in work didn't do it, j prince having close associates arrested in cars with kilo's of ? in them while driving cars registered to his company and telling the polcie that they worked for his label didn't do it. nope feds only came around when they started talking about distributing their own records independently. yep, the whole billion dollar industry would have collapsed if has been suge (and he was washed up at that time with no major artists) irv who only had ja rule (ashanti had already started to fall off) prince who only had scarface really (who while a legend was no longer a big seller) yep the secret powers that control billion dollar industries noticed that these dudes were making moves and told the gov quit worrying about the trillion dollar economy, wall street where billions change hands every day and wars on foreign soil but go ? down on these dudes who might put something together that will sell a million copies. they definitely did that and the fact that none of them went to jail except suge by his own actions, no need for a gov conspiracy there, is proof that the gov decided they must be stopped. because the irs and dea and the senate give a ? to stop these dudes who were all past their glory days were talking big in a magazine.
    the feds also teamed up to stop master p and spread those rumors which ere not true at all, because we know that anyone who lets their mother's house get foreclosed, lets their studio get foreclosed and owes millions in taxes and hadn't had a hit in 10 years is obviously sitting on bill gates level dough

    You're naive as hell, you must be either A. white B. a Troll or C. a white supremacy sympathizer
    JP Morgan, Rockerfeller, and the rest of the american financial tycoons committed some of the biggest financial crimes in the history of the world to control the US finances. So what ever associations prince, irv, suge, and dame have on a street level pale in comparison to what economic atrocities these guys committed OWN THEIR OWN not by association. the government NEVER came down on any of those guys

    You must have never heard of the term group economics. the value of the dollar increases 10 fold when your own community controls it. if you control the economics of your culture you control everything else. So while you think 1 million copies aint ? , the revenue from that bounces 10 times more when you circulate that money. A distribution company would have created jobs for BLACKS, that would have encouraged BLACKS to patronize other BLACK businesses which would have made even more money for the BLACK community. Blacks have amassed 1.1 TRILLION dollars of spending power WITHOUT the use of group economics so while you think we aren't a threat to BILLION dollar industries your either ? or cant count.

    And what does not having hit record in 10 years have to do with distribution? All these guys have business savvy. They control the distribution of the music not the CONTENT. That would have been up to all of the indie labels, and the last time I checked there are indie artist who are doing way better than major artist, and those indie artist don't have one song on the Hot 100 chart(tech nina). So your argument is irrelevant

    Donald trump has filed for bankruptcy a ? load of times, but you still see he can get his good ole boys to invest in him. Its a double standard in amerikkka when it comes to black businessmen and white business men. when the system freezes credit for your race, cuts off your resources, and mis educate you, its harder to build something on your own (that's where pooling your money and resources come in)

    Like I said you are naive as hell to not think that the gov doesn't keep tabs on black businessmen who aren't trying to depend on white money. it was just convenient for them to target those black guys because of their street ties. The Black Wall Street in Tulsa, and Rosewood here in florida are two prime examples of how whites and the powers that be respond when blacks take the power of money back into their own communities.
  • MarcusGarvey
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    What a dumb way to phrase a question.
    Sony/ATV owns a lot of ? . MJackson owned most of ATV if I'm not mistaken.
    Use google
  • Rock_Well
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    And this is one reason why i say more blacks should team up with asians (the chinese maybe)...or somebody. we really need to get out the mindset of feeling like we have to do everything ourselves in order to reach the ideal success on 'our own'. this is not possible, everybody has a position they play, we can't play every damn position at da same time, plus u gonna always need pull and need allies. if we learned to team up with the asians we could rule the whole world, exclusively. Like, asian ? be having their own lil cities withIN major US cities at da same damn time, like how thr f u do that?
  • illedout
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    Bruh George Clinton aint dead..
  • Trollio
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    we need to unite as internet people since ? on the street dont want to learn
  • CracceR
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    bro if we disturbed the music we own the culture the clothes are women hair care products next we wouldnt need the white man for nothing next black farms they know we wanna re segregate this time owning our own ? with out whites an they hate it

    to be fair most whites wouldnt care or would support it if artists wouldnt get screwd over in the music biz
  • Vader_F_Kennedy
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    Dead at mcartney puttin mj on to game then mj like guess what ? I own yo ? ..thx for the advice
    Smart/ruthless
  • judahxulu
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    Vader wrote: »
    Dead at mcartney puttin mj on to game then mj like guess what ? I own yo ? ..thx for the advice
    Smart/ruthless

    mike was a g.i. ( gary, indiana ? ) at the end of the day. dont believe that peter pan soprano interview voice lol. that dude was gangsta but too reckless.. got to talking that ? overseas. so they hit him with a hot dose..
  • a_list
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    Vader wrote: »
    Dead at mcartney puttin mj on to game then mj like guess what ? I own yo ? ..thx for the advice
    Smart/ruthless


    They had a beef because Mike outbid him when the publishing was auctioned off

  • illedout
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    the girl is mine,
    ? the gat damn girl is mines
    ..
    ~Michael Jackson~..
  • hiphop12345
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    bro if we disturbed the music we own the culture the clothes are women hair care products next we wouldnt need the white man for nothing next black farms they know we wanna re segregate this time owning our own ? with out whites an they hate it
    The great trick. Black people wanted discrimination to end, but were later tricked into thinking that segregation WAS discrimination as a whole so the goal became to end segregation, while whites flipped the ending of segregation to mean Black people sending money with white business.


    People love to use the phrase "This is checkers, I'm playing chess", well that was a chess move. ? league had Black owners then MLB is integrated and how many Black owners do you have? Black people have built brands with they hard earn money(Nike) but non of it go to Black persons beside the endorsed athlete.

    Integration without a plan. Now watch how the Japanese integrated into the West.

    Having a home nation does help though.
  • Vader_F_Kennedy
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    a_list wrote: »
    Vader wrote: »
    Dead at mcartney puttin mj on to game then mj like guess what ? I own yo ? ..thx for the advice
    Smart/ruthless


    They had a beef because Mike outbid him when the publishing was auctioned off

    Dame thing..in the end he still owned there ?
  • BelovedAfeni
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    bro if we disturbed the music we own the culture the clothes are women hair care products next we wouldnt need the white man for nothing next black farms they know we wanna re segregate this time owning our own ? with out whites an they hate it
    The great trick. Black people wanted discrimination to end, but were later tricked into thinking that segregation WAS discrimination as a whole so the goal became to end segregation, while whites flipped the ending of segregation to mean Black people sending money with white business.


    People love to use the phrase "This is checkers, I'm playing chess", well that was a chess move. ? league had Black owners then MLB is integrated and how many Black owners do you have? Black people have built brands with they hard earn money(Nike) but non of it go to Black persons beside the endorsed athlete.

    Integration without a plan. Now watch how the Japanese integrated into the West.

    Having a home nation does help though.

    Slept on post
  • A1000MILES
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    "If we disturbed the music...next, black farms"

    -BlackGod
  • RickyRich
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    irv and suge & prince was goin to do this but they some how all end up catchin case around the time it was going to form
  • BelovedAfeni
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    irv and suge & prince was goin to do this but they some how all end up catchin case around the time it was going to form

    thank you sir
    this was part of the reason I made this thread
    but its deeper than that
  • NoCompetition
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    edited November 2013
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    People kinda do things on an individual basis. "race" has nothin to do with how people think. Thats some ignorance from the past. Its about business savy vs. not. Puttin people in imaginary boxes your only playin yoursels. But i get how people been victimized by that "race" whatever. But fck that.
  • BelovedAfeni
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    ^^stop it
    race in america is just as important as currency
    not saying that we are inferior
    just laying all the cards out there