Kurupt Says Tha Dogg Pound's "New York, New York" Was Not A Diss Song
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Even though Tha Dogg Pound’s “New York, New York” was viewed by many Rap fans as a diss of New York, Kurupt says that the 1995 song started out as a tribute to the birthplace of Hip Hop culture.
“It wasn’t even going after New York,” Kurupt says during an interview with xxlmag.com. “It wasn’t a diss record. It really wasn’t. ‘New York, New York’ was a record that we made in dedication to New York. We really felt that New York created Hip Hop. New York created battle rap and the whole ball of wax so what I did was a battle rap on this beat DJ Pooh did.”
The song almost didn’t come to fruition, though, Kurupt says to xxlmag.com, because DJ Pooh had given the instrumental to The Notorious B.I.G. for a St. Ides commercial. But since the music was only used for a commercial, Tha Dogg Pound made the song nonetheless.
“Snoop [Dogg] came in the studio when I was laying my second verse,” Kurupt says to xxlmag.com. “I laid the first verse in one day and then the next day I laid the second verse. And then when I laid the second verse Snoop came through and he came in and he just got finished listening to Melle Mel, Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five. He came in saying ‘New York, New York. Big city of dreams and everything in New York ain’t always what it seems. You might get fooled when you come from out of town but I’m down by law and know my way around.’ He was singing the Melle Mel chorus [from Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five’s ‘New York New York’]. He was singing the chorus and we was like, ‘That’s ? ’s perfect. It fits perfect.’”
It was during the so-called East Coast-West Coast rivalry when Tha Dogg Pound went to New York to film the video for “New York, New York.” Snow was falling and the crew was filmed having fun.
“We wanted Nas and everybody from New York to be in the video,” Kurupt says. “It was a dedication to New York, but then we got shot at it while we were shooting it. New York felt we were disrespecting them. [Laughs] The New Yorkers wasn’t going for it. They was like, ‘Oh, no. You ain’t gonna shoot this ? out here dissing us.’ They shot at us the next day, so I mean after they shot at us, we went back home and Snoop was like, ‘Man, ? that.’ Then we shot the other part of the video where we started kicking everything the ? over. That’s why we started kicking things over because we got shot at it.”
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interesting bit of history.
but I kinda always knew something like this was the case. since other than the lil intro "Jus finish the blunt man. Yo ? , Yo ? ." lol. their raps really were not disses. Kurupt was jus rappin bout some random jibberish. -
I never did take that song as a diss. If you listen to the lyrics there isn't a lot of dissing. I guess the illustration in the video is what people took offense to
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From how snoop told it the song was to show love but when they was shootin te video some funk popped off and the direction of the video changed to some ? these ? ?
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Kurupt was a cold ass ? back then. You can play Dogg Food from front to back.
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Never knew that, perfect song really
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smh. Never new Biggie used it first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-vVn3gBXZM -
FuriousOne wrote: »smh. Never new Biggie used it first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-vVn3gBXZM
Glad Tha Dogg Pound picked it up! -
They wanted Nas on the video damn. Biggie & Jay was nas sons back then.
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Because funk flex got on the radio telling the whereabouts of where the video was being shot & told ? they were disrespecting NYC and to go see them.
Flex was and still is a hoe made ? -
For the life of me im not understanding why Flex Hogan aint got beat up on worldstar by now.
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aladdin1978 wrote: »Because funk flex got on the radio telling the whereabouts of where the video was being shot & told ? they were disrespecting NYC and to go see them.
Flex was and still is a hoe made ?
I thought it was BIG who did that -
Ive never thought of New York New York as a diss song. I mean the lyrics dont seem like hes dissing anybody.
Great song and classic album. -
"...what he drinking? The Crooked letter, no other beer feel better."
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aladdin1978 wrote: »Because funk flex got on the radio telling the whereabouts of where the video was being shot & told ? they were disrespecting NYC and to go see them.
Flex was and still is a hoe made ?
? hate on NY for letting people live and hate on NY for letting people know what's up. Big was having that. Communication should of been better. -
I heard that back in the day, that it wasnt a diss song. Again Newyork started beef with someone from somewherelse that said Newyork, and gave a opinion about the city.
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Kicking buildings down and ? ain't a diss? Lol ok
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vageneral08 wrote: »Kicking buildings down and ? ain't a diss? Lol ok
They added that after their trailer got shot up -
Yea the song wasnt a diss, but the video was another thing....The original concept wouldve been dope, tho
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aladdin1978 wrote: »Because funk flex got on the radio telling the whereabouts of where the video was being shot & told ? they were disrespecting NYC and to go see them.
Flex was and still is a hoe made ?
wow thats news to me. Flex a ? for that -
aladdin1978 wrote: »Because funk flex got on the radio telling the whereabouts of where the video was being shot & told ? they were disrespecting NYC and to go see them.
Flex was and still is a hoe made ?
Least hes not sucking 2Pacs ? -
All thanx to flex big mouth. yeah man
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vageneral08 wrote: »Kicking buildings down and ? ain't a diss? Lol ok
Read -
D.P.G.
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for the record st ides is nasty as ? ....211,OE, and my fav Private stock>>>> St ides
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because of the timing and the fact they crushed the buildings in the video I think it was a diss and always will
Kurupt was talking about murdering NY and any other Mcs IMO, but he knows better than I do I guess