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  • infamous114
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    Toronto pushed us. Defense was bad all night. No way to put it. Beasley played well on the offensive end, but it's no surprise when Toronto was super efficient when he was on the floor. He gives effort but dude has no instincts when it comes to defense. This is why we get frustrated with Bosh...games like tonight.

    Oh yea, got this from the Miami Herald.
    Remember Kevin Durant saying in September that James Harden, not Dwyane Wade, belonged in the list of the NBA’s top 10 players? Wade remains the clearly more efficient player --– first in ESPN’s shooting guard efficiency ratings, ahead of Harden.

    Though Harden averages more points (24 to 19.6), that’s the result of taking more shots and playing five minutes more per game. Wade shoots much better (54.1 – highest by a shooting guard in this century - to Harden’s 44.2), averages more rebounds, assists and steals per 36 minutes, and makes more field goals than Harden despite taking fewer shots.
    The Heat has been very pleased with Greg Oden’s progress recently – he has looked good in workouts --– and Heat people would be surprised if Miami pursued Andrew Bynum if the Cavaliers cut him, barring an Oden setback. A Heat official noted Miami had no interest in Bynum last summer.
    Sad to see: Not only has Udonis Haslem slipped to 77th and last among power forwards in NBA efficiency ratings (and 324th of 327 players overall), but the Heat has been outscored by 77 points with Haslem on the floor; every other Heat player has a positive plus/minus. It's difficult to see him cracking the rotation again, barring injury, but don't count out Haslem; his grit, work ethic, tenacity and commitment have enabled him to forge a career much better than anyone expected... Please see the last post for several more Heat notes from Saturday night.
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    I heard Oden been ramping up his workouts slightly but we just want to keep improving strength in his legs and knees. I gave the staff until the new year to get Oden out there in 3 min spurts. I expect that in the next 2 weeks or so
  • rage
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    D Wade is the best SG in the league....
  • infamous114
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    Wade playing 3 games in 4 nights...that knee must be feeling better. And he was efficient last night...9 of 15 shooting. Got the Knicks on deck.
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    miamiherald.com/2014/01/09/3860855/miami-heats-shane-battier-mario.html
    Miami Heat’s Shane Battier, Mario Chalmers to miss game vs. Knicks; White House visit set for Tuesday

    NEW YORK The Miami Heat will again be shorthanded when they play Thursday night’s nationally televised game against the New York Knicks.

    Shane Battier will miss his fourth game due to a strained left quadriceps, and Mario Chalmers will miss his second full game with an injured Achilles. Rashard Lewis and Norris Cole are expected to start in place Battier and Chalmers, respectively.

    Battier participated in Thursday’s shootaround at Madison Square Garden, which is a good sign, but will rest his legs as a precaution. Chalmers did not participate in the morning shootaround due to his tendonitis.

    “You call it tendonitis, I call it painful,” Chalmers said.

    Dwyane Wade is expected to play, but coach Erik Spoelstra said Wade officially would be a game-time decision. The Heat plays the Knicks at 8 p.m. Thursday (TNT) and then plays the Brooklyn Nets at 8 p.m. Friday (Sun Sports, ESPN). If Wade plays against the Knicks, there’s a chance he would rest against the Nets.

    “We’re always day-to-day,” Spoelstra said of Wade’s playing status. “We evaluate, we communicate, see how he’s feeling. He has been feeling better. He has been getting stronger. So, he’s been able to play, but those determinations are always right before the game.”

    Center Greg Oden did not travel with the team to New York, but remained in Miami to work on his conditioning, according to the team.

    WHITE HOUSE VISIT SET

    The Heat will visit the White House on Tuesday to commemorate their 2013 NBA championship.

    It’s the second consecutive year the team will meet with President Obama. Highlights of last year’s visit included Dwyane Wade’s flashy shoes and President Obama telling LeBron James, “It’s your world, man.”

    “It’s an incredible honor and a privilege,” Spoelstra said. “We’re able to do it with our Heat family and then also bring in some of our family. It’s a culmination of all that hard work to be able to celebrate it again in the highest house.”

    The team will also visit with wounded warriors from the Walter Reed Military Medical Center while at the White House.

    Heat president Pat Riley was unable to make the trip to the White House last year due to flu-like symptoms but is expected to visit this time.

    Chris Bosh said the trip will be more of a routine this year, but that “it will always be a big deal because it’s part of a championship.”

    As for asking Obama any questions, Bosh said he’s probably just going to shake the president’s hand.

    “You only get two seconds and then he’s moving on,” Bosh said. “So, you got to make it quick if you want to ask him something. I just shake his hand and say what’s up. You’re going to get a politically correct answer anyway. It’s the President.”
  • stringer bell
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    cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24403434/miami-heat-are-currently-the-best-shooting-team-in-nba-history
    Miami Heat are currently the best shooting team in NBA history

    When you've won back-to-back championships and look to be the favorites in your quest for a third straight title, you don't really need to add much to your résumé. Your accomplishments have already separated you from most teams in NBA history and finding new ways to impress your observers could be challenging. A new way impress the basketball viewer is to become the best shooting team in NBA history.

    Last season, the Miami Heat made 49.6 percent of their shots with an effective field goal percentage (accounting for the extra point on a 3-point shot) of 55.2 percent. That effective field goal percentage was the highest of all time, topping the 1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers that put up a 55.1 effective field goal percentage. During that season, the Lakers had the highest field goal percentage by a team in NBA history with 54.5 percent.

    No other team has ever approached a field goal percentage that high. One reason they shot so high was they didn't use the 3-point line all that much. As a team, the '85 Lakers took just 295 3-pointers on the season. To put that in perspective, Ray Allen, Shane Battier, and Mario Chalmers all individually shot more than 300 3-pointers in 2012-13. Because of the 3-point shot, last year's Heat team ended up having the best shooting season in NBA history.

    It's something the Heat have managed to do through the first 35 games of the season. As a team, they're shooting 51.1 percent from the field, which is historically ridiculous. There have been 17 teams in the 3-point era (since 1979) that have posted a field goal percentage of at least 51.1 percent from the field. The Heat are at the bottom of that list of 17 teams. So if they're 17th of 17 teams on this list, how can you possibly call them the best shooting team in NBA history?

    The 51.1 percent from the field the Heat are shooting this season is historic on its own. But they're doing it with a volume of 3-point shooting we've never seen before. Here are the 17 teams that have shot at least 51.1 percent from the field in NBA history and their 3-point volume attached to it
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    The Lakers of the 1980's dominated field goal percentage but we never saw many 3-point attempts from them. That was just part of the era. While the 3-point shot was there, it wasn't very prevalent in terms of teams taking a lot of shots from downtown. It was nowhere entrenched in the game like it is today. This is part of the reason the Heat's field goal percentage is so historically impressive.

    Not only is the 51.1 percent from the field incredibly rare, but they've more than double the 3-point attempts of the next most voluminous team, the 1994-95 Utah Jazz. By the way, the Jazz took over nine per game when the league moved the 3-point line in. The Heat currently have an effective field goal percentage of 56.4 percent. Guess how many teams have put up at least a 56.0 effective field goal percentage.

    The only team is this current Miami Heat squad.

    A big part of this historic shooting performance is LeBron James. His 58.9 percent from the field on nearly 16 shots per game doesn't even seem possible. His true shooting percentage of 66.9 percent has never been done by a player taking at least 15 shots per game. Only two other players have ever had a true shooting percentage at least 66.0 percent while shooting 15 times each night and one of them never took a 3-pointer.

    But Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh have been incredibly efficient as well. Wade takes 14.7 shots per game and makes 53.8 percent of them. Chris Bosh takes 11.4 attempts each night and makes 53.0 percent. The Big Three account for 49.4 percent of the Heat's total attempts while pouring in a success rate of 55.6 percent. There is only one area of the court in which they struggle and everywhere else is around league average or far above it.


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    Percentage-wise, the Heat are the best team in the restricted area, the best in the paint on non-restricted area attempts, 11th in midrange shots, and the best corner 3-point shooting team. The only spot they struggle is on above-the-break 3-point attempts in which they're 23rd in the NBA but shoot the fifth fewest attempts per game.

    The Heat excel with the players they're supposed to excel with and shoot from the spots they're supposed to shoot from. Considering their biggest roadblock in the Eastern Conference is the Indiana Pacers (the league's stingiest defense in field goal percentage and 3-point percentage allowed), being able to make shots at a historic rate seems to be pretty important.

    If the Heat are able to be one of the few teams in NBA history to successfully execute a three-peat, it may just simply come down to making shots in a way we've never seen before.
  • infamous114
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    It's something about losing to the Knicks that disgusts me lol. The animosity has never left me from the 90s. Bosh and our defensive effort can be frustrating to watch sometimes
  • infamous114
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    Lol I know by now, we shouldn't look too much into regular season games but I hate when we play with no effort on the defensive end. I haven't really been bothered by any of the Ls this season until the last two. Spo is going to have sleepless nights and drill that ? in practice. Next game on Wednesday.
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    This describes how I felt about this game and mr spice lately..I said all I had to say in the NBA thread

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    nba.com/heat/news/heat-trade-joel-anthony-exchange-toney-douglas
    HEAT Trade Joel Anthony in Exchange for Toney Douglas


    MIAMI, FL – The Miami HEAT announced today that they have traded center Joel Anthony and two future draft choices to the Boston Celtics, in a three-team trade, in exchange for guard Toney Douglas from the Golden State Warriors. To complete the trade, Boston will send MarShon Brooks and Jordan Crawford to the Warriors.

    “It’s always difficult trading a player like Joel who was a big part of the past two championship teams and will always be a part of the Miami HEAT family,” said HEAT President Pat Riley. “This trade gives us great flexibility moving forward in our journey to win an NBA Championship. Joel was a true professional who worked hard every day and we wish him the best in the future.”

    Douglas has appeared in 270 career NBA games (30 starts) and averaged 8.1 points, 2.2 rebounds and 2.2 assists while shooting 40.6 percent from the field, 35.7 percent from three-point range and 82.9 percent from the foul line. The Florida State University product has appeared in 24 games with the Warriors this season averaging 3.7 points and 1.0 rebounds while shooting 37.2 percent from the field.

    Anthony, who was originally signed by the HEAT as a free agent on July 3, 2007 and was a part of two NBA titles in Miami, appeared in 382 career games (110 starts) with the HEAT and averaged 2.4 points, 3.1 rebounds and 1.27 blocks while shooting 50.8 percent from the field.
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    touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78908186/
    Cult of Riley never more essential in wake of trade

    This isn't about Joel Anthony and isn't about Toney Douglas.

    This also isn't about Greg Oden, who only now is moving into the Miami Heat's rotation at center, and it's also not about Andrew Bynum, and how money freed up from Wednesday's three-team trade might make such a signing more financially palatable.

    No, this is about Pat Riley.

    Now, more than ever.

    With the dump of Anthony's salaries for both this season and next, the Heat continue to thin their tax roll, one that the NBA made especially onerous in the current collective-bargaining agreement.

    Last summer, it was the amnesty release of Mike Miller, who might just have come in handy during the Heat's recent spate of injuries.

    Now it's moving Anthony and his tax burden off the books, a move, when accounting for his 2014-15 salary could save the Heat in excess of $10 million in luxury-tax payments.

    And next could be a look at Udonis Haslem, whose contract also extends into next season, and who, like Anthony, has spent almost the entire season in his warmups.

    Beyond the Heat's Big Three -- with LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh all able to opt out of their contracts by July 1 -- the only salaries on the books for next season now belong to Norris Cole (at $2 million), Haslem (at $4.6 million) and Chris Andersen (a $1.5 million player option he well could bypass). Douglas, the combo guard acquired from the Golden State Warriors, has a $1.6 million expiring contract.

    With the move of Anthony, it becomes clearer that the plan going forward is the hope of more Big Three and then plenty of cheap labor.

    Like convincing Oden to return on a minimal deal.

    And Birdman.

    And Michael Beasley.

    And Rashard Lewis.

    And the replacement for Shane Battier.

    Riley said of Wednesday's trade, "This was not a money move; this was a flexibility move."

    Fine, semantics. In today's NBA, money is flexibility.

    So now, never will the Riley cult of personality be as significant. This past offseason, he convinced Ray Allen not to opt out, after a playoff shot that assuredly could have placed him (and possibly the Heat) in a higher tax bracket.

    He got Lewis and James Jones back on their minimal deals.

    He got Andersen to bypass a minimal raise that was assumed as a given.

    And now Riley will have to do it again.

    With anyone else in charge, there might be a critical eye from James, Wade and Bosh when it would come to rounding out a lineup with flotsam at power forward and, possibly, jetsam at point guard.

    But even with reduced salary-cap leverage these past two seasons, Riley has found a way for Erik Spoelstra to have enough to make it to the NBA Finals.

    And it's not as if the NBA Draft is going to change the equation. The Heat's upcoming 2015 first-round pick goes to the Cleveland Cavaliers as part of the sign-and-trade for James in 2010. Now, the 2014 or 2015 first-round pick due from the Philadelphia 76ers goes to the Boston Celtics (one that likely will turn into a pair of second-round picks unless the 76ers make the playoffs this season or next).

    But it's never been about the draft since it's been about the Big Three.

    It's been about the subtle additions, Allen at the mini-midlevel, Birdman, Ronny Turiaf, Lewis, Oden, possibly yet Bynum, at the minimum.

    Now the trick is to maintain the mantra of "sacrifice" with those who walk into Riley's office, while convincing James, Wade and Bosh that by re-upping they wouldn't be sacrificing their championship visions alongside a minimal-wage supporting cast.

    Those who doubt Riley were out in force in the middle of last summer's free agency period. Then Oden arrived, followed by Beasley. Then Lewis regained his legs and Cole continued his growth under the tutelage of Riley's development staff. Suddenly, the Heat were reinvigorated, on the cheap.

    The tax savings produced by the trade of Anthony open no cap space, create nothing more in terms of exceptions than what the Heat already had going forward.

    No, this is all about the Pat Riley trust fund, trust that he can again by buy low and sell high hopes to the three players on his roster who matter most.
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    Greg Oden last game matched Joel's point total for the season lol
  • infamous114
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    Even on his bday, Wade gotta be promoting those kicks of his lol...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdvIezS-GoQ
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    ayo is battier's time up from a production standpoint?

    Between him, Ray, and Udonis its becomimg a trifecta of useless guys out there now. Gotta get younger too..
  • infamous114
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    This is the last year we can win with this current roster...we definitely need younger reinforcement next year
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    ray,shane,rashard,roger,james,udonis,dwyane,and birdman

    More than half the roster is 32 and older..

    I feel like we need to bring in james ennis,jarvis varnado,and possibly eric griffin from' preseason to help be youthful replacements from the inside. I just worry about the dilemma of maybe too many guys from this current roster being gone next season which would make it harder because everyone would have to learn how to play with each other again and that process might be difficult.

    But on the other hand, I dont want a bunch of dead weight on the roster..Battier is done, Udonis is done, Ray is just about done, james jones needs to move out the country, and it doesnt look that great for the others..

    This upcoming offseason will be interesting, I just hope things work out. But lets finish with this season first.

    Ray and shane have to start hittin shots again
  • usmarin3
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    If Riley even attempt to give Wade a max contract. Smh Offer him 12 a year or tell him to kick rocks. Same for Bosh.
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    Got lazy and started slacking on D late in the game but Bosh has been stepping it up and playing like the star hes supposed to be when Wade is out. Greg Oden got more mins tonight and looked pretty good with no concerns about the kness so all in all I wish Wade would play but Im pretty satisfied right now..

    The Defense will come..
  • stringer bell
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    Always good to see the Heat give the Fakers that work...
  • infamous114
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    I'm fed up with us playing like trash.
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