If Ice Cube was from New York would he be considered better than Jay Z?
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I mean he has a better discography better subject matter 4 classic albums was apart of one the top 5 rap group ever and overall his music just bumps. So I'm guessing the only reason he isn't considered better cause he was born on the wrong side of the map. Lethal Injection>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Jay Z album.
U had me until u said Lethal Injection>. Any real Cube fan knows Lethal Injection was ass cheeks compared to his previous albums. Matter of fact id say when LI came out is when Cube fans started deserting him.
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I think Cube made better music than Pac. Apparently Cube thinks so too, cause I've heard him get asked twice who his favorite top 3 rappers, and he never sayscPac.
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When Will They Shoot?
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Can't relate to Jay Z's music
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Cube fell off hard after his double album, but his early catalog cant be ? with.
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"? the police comin straight from the underground
A young ? got it bad cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
they have the authority to ? a minority"
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Jayz impact on hip hop -
If pots and pans was stacks of grands I'd be rich...stop hating on the WestCoast. step ya rap game up NYC.
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for people saying ice cube had a bigger impact on the music than jay z...their impact is equal..n.w.a. did not start gangsta rap. along with other groups they help raise the bar. jay z didnt create mafioso rap but helped push the bar with it. cube went the movie route later in life along with others and that helped show our versatility. jay z went corporate along with others and that helped show our business side. the impact that both had is equal.
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semi-auto-mato wrote: »for people saying ice cube had a bigger impact on the music than jay z...their impact is equal..n.w.a. did not start gangsta rap. along with other groups they help raise the bar. jay z didnt create mafioso rap but helped push the bar with it. cube went the movie route later in life along with others and that helped show our versatility. jay z went corporate along with others and that helped show our business side. the impact that both had is equal.
Wtf any of this got to do with their lyrical ability -
semi-auto-mato wrote: »for people saying ice cube had a bigger impact on the music than jay z...their impact is equal..n.w.a. did not start gangsta rap. along with other groups they help raise the bar. jay z didnt create mafioso rap but helped push the bar with it. cube went the movie route later in life along with others and that helped show our versatility. jay z went corporate along with others and that helped show our business side. the impact that both had is equal.
What has that gotta do with Ice Cube being a far superior artist than Jay Z and having a far superior catalouge? -
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BeardedFreak wrote: »"? the police comin straight from the underground
A young ? got it bad cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
they have the authority to ? a minority"
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Jayz impact on hip hop
Jay Z influenced rappers like Fabolous, Jadakiss, Cassidy, Crooked I, Juelz Santana
His style influenced their style and they all also said he was their biggest influence -
No way.
That's like saying, "If your mom had a ? would she be considered your dad?" -
Cube fell off hard after his double album, but his early catalog cant be ? with.
No 1 has fell of harder in the history of hip hop than Jay Z has after The Blueprint
After that album he released extremley terrible albums like Blueprint 2, Kingdome Come, Blueprint 3, Magna Carter Holy Grail
Average albums like The Black Album
Below average albums like American Gangster -
@ guntown and @mrJrsemi-auto-mato wrote: »for people saying ice cube had a bigger impact on the music than jay z...their impact is equal..n.w.a. did not start gangsta rap. along with other groups they help raise the bar. jay z didnt create mafioso rap but helped push the bar with it. cube went the movie route later in life along with others and that helped show our versatility. jay z went corporate along with others and that helped show our business side. the impact that both had is equal.
What has that gotta do with Ice Cube being a far superior artist than Jay Z and having a far superior catalouge?
this was geared towards the posts a few pages back that talked about cube's impact. as u can clearly see i said for people saying...now with that said the superior catalog is based on opinion. lyrics are based on opinions. if u feel cube is better than cool. i dont but u know what i might have a little east coast bias in me so thats that.
@guntown we know u hate jay z so stop with the far superior ? . smh -
I don't hate Jay Z i don't know him to hate him
I just think his music is terrible and that his style of rap is terrible. He doesn't have 1 song i enjoy -
@guntown
ok thats cool but u spend way too much energy on trying to prove so many others are better. there are plenty of artists who's music i dont enjoy but have no problem with those that do. is it an obsession? -
I just wanna see artistic rappers appreciated on the IC regardless of sales even someone like ZRO who may not sell much he is an artistic rapper
With Jay Z it's like this -
Freestyle three 16 Bar verses about selling ? being a ? king pin, money, cars, jewellrey, being a better rapper than other rappers, being a thug.
Use Punchlines, Entrendres, Similies, Word Play in the verses
Use a skippy Flow in the verses
Call an RnB singer like Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, R Kelly, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Mariah Carey etc to write and feature performing the hook. Paying them a lotta money to feature and craft the hook
Call a producer like Timbaland, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Premier etc to produce the song. Paying them a lotta money to produce and mix the song
^^^^That is Jay Z's formula for a song and exactly what he does -
@semi-auto-moto
This what i always tell @usmarin @AlreadyHome_17 and other Jay Z fans on why a lotta people don't think his music is decent and that a lotta people don't think rappers with that style make enjoyable music -
but what u may not consider art some other folks will. there is no right or wrong to this ? . if u love em there is a reason for it and its ur own reason. if someone loves pac, or big, or jay, or nas, or wayne they have a reason for that. u just dont viewit the same as other people.
for the record jay not a thug...he's a hustler...there is a difference. his art is geared towards people with a hustler's mentality. when u say he has no substance his core audience wont agree with u. respect everyone's opinion. i respect urs. u crazy bout em and i dont see why but hey thats u. i have no reason to try and point out all of em's flaws. -
Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs
It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy
I like artistic rappers -
Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs
It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy
I like artistic rappers
But you stay talking about hood ? like you blimy bloaks be ruffling feathers. -
Cube fell off hard after his double album, but his early catalog cant be ? with.
No 1 has fell of harder in the history of hip hop than Jay Z has after The Blueprint
After that album he released extremley terrible albums like Blueprint 2, Kingdome Come, Blueprint 3, Magna Carter Holy Grail
Average albums like The Black Album
Below average albums like American Gangster
And the ? button has been pushed. Now the opinion of other albums can be whatever but Black Album and American Gangster are great albums. I can name u SEVERAL people whose dip in hip hop was WAAAAYYYY more severe than Jay's. Ummmmmm 50 Cent, Ja Rule, and EMINEM to name a few. Its funny that you say that but whenever Jay drops a song, featured on a song, or an album....EVERYBODY listens.
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I just wanna see artistic rappers appreciated on the IC regardless of sales even someone like ZRO who may not sell much he is an artistic rapper
With Jay Z it's like this -
Freestyle three 16 Bar verses about selling ? being a ? king pin, money, cars, jewellrey, being a better rapper than other rappers, being a thug.
Use Punchlines, Entrendres, Similies, Word Play in the verses
Use a skippy Flow in the verses
Call an RnB singer like Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, R Kelly, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Mariah Carey etc to write and feature performing the hook. Paying them a lotta money to feature and craft the hook
Call a producer like Timbaland, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Premier etc to produce the song. Paying them a lotta money to produce and mix the song
^^^^That is Jay Z's formula for a song and exactly what he does
yep you don't really listen to Jay.....now that's a fact.
