Would Manny Fresh Be Considered GOAT/Top 5 Producer If He Was From New York?
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Mannie always been dope but always been a two trick pony. There's been hundreds of producers n beat makers in the 40 yrs of this music yet only a few get mentioned consistently in goat discussions. Not to be sarcastic but I think there's a reason why. Hate primo n his loops all y'all want mannie don't got as much critically acclaimed or classic HipHop music. And he ain't 1 of my personal favorites. I just respect the game.
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Beats by the pound anybody. lol
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but Mannies Cash Money catolog >>>>> most ? back then and now
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Mannie Fresh made Cash Money but that's another story.Cash Money went Pop Now
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Would DJ Premier and his expired ass beats be worth a damn if he represented the South like he was born and raise instead of so badly wanting to be from Brooklyn?
He would get the same recognition as he's getting now. Just like we do with Dilla being from the D. -
Wait till yall hear his work on Carter 5
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Here's the point:
As good as Manny is - and he's a legit Top 3 from the South - he ain't cracking the Top 5 in Hip-Hop producers. I just named five dudes, and some came with a few more that are both more sonically and critically acclaimed than Fresh.
And don't start that "hating the South" cop-out ? .
Timbo & the Neptunes - VA (SOUTH)
Kanye - Chi-Raq (MIDWEST)
Dre - Cally (WEST)
Only consistent names that get that kind of mention of the East is Primo and Just Blaze, and Blaze is from Jersey.
Wrapping this ? up:
Is Manny Fresh a Top 15 producer? Hell yeah!
Is he Top 10? Sure
Is he Top 5? Nah, fam. He'd be about 8 or 9 on the list if we did the whole thing for real.
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To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blaze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Dre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbaland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptunes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed -
Top 5 off the strength that he PRODUCED ENTIRE ALBUMS WITHOUT OTHER PRODUCERS! He did it consistently and gave you and entire sound all his own. Today, producers don't really do that, well artist don't stick with one producer. So that in itself is amazing. There are only a few who can produce entire ALBUMS with consistency and Fresh is one of them.
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No. If Manny was from NY, his should would be totally different and he wouldn't be the Manny Fresh we know today. Even if we are talking about just in a vacuum, with him being from NY and his sound still being the same...no. His sound still wouldn't appeal to the ? who are hip hop taste makers so he still wouldn't get the credit he deserves.
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To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blazehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Drehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbalandhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptuneshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k0R38E_H-8 -
To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blazehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Drehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbalandhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptuneshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed
This is really all subjective. I could name you plenty of Manny tracks I think are better than the ones you named. But what does that mean? Just that I personally like them better and think they are better. Nothing more. There is no qualitative way to determine which is 'better'. But to play along...even though I dig the tracks you posted, I think this is better than any of them...
http://youtu.be/-YE1p_M5g7I -
To much Regional strife on this site but truthfully its just a reflection of how people think & feel IRL
Them devils got us dividing and bickering amongst each other but what u expect when we cant apprciate the
unique qualities of the people, how they came up and the music that stems from it, on EVERY Coast
Gotta walk in the shoes of anouther brother to understand him
Once you walk in the Timbs of a cat from NY , the chucks of a brother out in Watts or the Bay and the Soulja Ree's of somebody in the N.O./ the South then you can appreciate all RAP music for what it is, "BLACK" music cuz its universal -
? 's gonna be biased at the end of the day, whether it's nostalgia or regionalism. I know what Mannie meant to the South, and how he was killin beats in the late 90s to early 2000s, so I'ma put him in my top 5 on the strength.
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Off the top of the head my top 5 producers would look sumthin like this
Dungeon Family
Pete Rock
Mannie Fresh
Easy Mo Bee/Grand Wizard
DJ Quik/Daz
In no particular order and i gotta couple of em tied -
That's a wack reason to give someone top 5. there were plenty of producers throughout the 80's and 90's that produced entire albums that were dopeTop 5 off the strength that he PRODUCED ENTIRE ALBUMS WITHOUT OTHER PRODUCERS!
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mryounggun wrote: »To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blazehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Drehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbalandhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptuneshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed
This is really all subjective. I could name you plenty of Manny tracks I think are better than the ones you named. But what does that mean? Just that I personally like them better and think they are better. Nothing more. There is no qualitative way to determine which is 'better'. But to play along...even though I dig the tracks you posted, I think this is better than any of them...http://youtu.be/-YE1p_M5g7I
man I use to ride for hours in the summer time to this ?
Also this use to be my ringtone for a long time
You can't tell me this song won't make you jump in the whip & swerve side to side & holla at random hoes in traffic -
mannie dope as ? no matter if he from NY or not
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T. Sanford wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blazehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Drehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbalandhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptuneshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed
This is really all subjective. I could name you plenty of Manny tracks I think are better than the ones you named. But what does that mean? Just that I personally like them better and think they are better. Nothing more. There is no qualitative way to determine which is 'better'. But to play along...even though I dig the tracks you posted, I think this is better than any of them...http://youtu.be/-YE1p_M5g7I
man I use to ride for hours in the summer time to this ?
Also this use to be my ringtone for a long time
You can't tell me this song won't make you jump in the whip & swerve side to side & holla at random hoes in traffic
Best track Mannie ever made, IMO. I could be wrong, there's a lot of his ? I never heard. -
mryounggun wrote: »T. Sanford wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blazehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Drehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbalandhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptuneshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed
This is really all subjective. I could name you plenty of Manny tracks I think are better than the ones you named. But what does that mean? Just that I personally like them better and think they are better. Nothing more. There is no qualitative way to determine which is 'better'. But to play along...even though I dig the tracks you posted, I think this is better than any of them...http://youtu.be/-YE1p_M5g7I
man I use to ride for hours in the summer time to this ?
Also this use to be my ringtone for a long time
You can't tell me this song won't make you jump in the whip & swerve side to side & holla at random hoes in traffic
Best track Mannie ever made, IMO. I could be wrong, there's a lot of his ? I never heard.
This song/beat is super ridin' (one of fat Webbie tracks), but Mannie got better stuff out there. Trust!
Keep diggin' my guy, keep diggin'.
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mryounggun wrote: »T. Sanford wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »To close this ? , find me a Manny Fresh beat that better than any of these:
DJ Premierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSR6Wntiyzk
Just Blazehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrVO3pPDP4
Kanyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5I5uXHj4j8
Dr. Drehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQxp-CRAMw
Timbalandhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnA94-hTC8
Bonus: The Neptuneshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouAu2L-pXY
NOW, the thread is closed
This is really all subjective. I could name you plenty of Manny tracks I think are better than the ones you named. But what does that mean? Just that I personally like them better and think they are better. Nothing more. There is no qualitative way to determine which is 'better'. But to play along...even though I dig the tracks you posted, I think this is better than any of them...http://youtu.be/-YE1p_M5g7I
man I use to ride for hours in the summer time to this ?
Also this use to be my ringtone for a long time
You can't tell me this song won't make you jump in the whip & swerve side to side & holla at random hoes in traffic
Best track Mannie ever made, IMO. I could be wrong, there's a lot of his ? I never heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMvjZ7lHrfY
The beat @ :47 & 1:24. Top notch ? . -
Hes a good producer but i dont rank him in my top 10 or 20
And just blaze is way better -
This ? produced all the albums all the way up to 2004 by himself, he carried that label on his back production wise.....I don't think people realize just how many albums that was ....he's one of the greats...where he's ranked shouldn't matter at this point...
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Its funny cats talking about Primo getting his props because he is from NY but he's not. Primo is from Houston Tx. Lol. He came to NY in his twenties. I thought this was public knowledge.
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Mannie Fresh>>>>Primo IMO
