List The Modern MCs That Are More Advanced Than Melle Mel

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5 Grand
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edited July 2014 in The Reason
In the other thread (Where Do You Guys Rank Melle Mel) People said that Melle Melwas a pioneer but rap has advanced since the early/mid 80s. But those same people failed to name an MC that was more advanced than Melle Mel.

So let's hear it. Who are these MCs that are more advanced?

Live Convention 81 freestyle
The Message
Survival
New York New York
White Lines
Step Off
The Truth
Jesse
Beat Street
I Feel For You (Chaka Khan feat Melle Mel)
Susie (Emanon feat Mell Mel, Bronx Style Bob and Afrika Islam)
The Beach (Zulu Kings- Melle Mel, Ice T, Bronx Style Bob and Afrika Islam)
Back On The Block - (Quincy Jones feat Melle Mel, Ice T, Big Daddy Kane and Kool Moe Dee)

Not to mention the stuff he did with the Furious Five

Superrappin
Freedom
It's Nasty

INB4 somebody makes Ad Hominem attacks at the thread and threadstarter
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  • a_list
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    Cmon 5 dude gets his props, but do we really have to make a list of more advanced rappers? True sun was ahead of his time, but we're talking 30 plus years if I cant name at least 20 then something is wrong with rap....
  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nas
    Chino Xl
    Ras Kas
    Royce
    crooked I
    talib
    Em
    MOST of Wu Tang


    Gucci ( JK LOL )
  • 5 Grand
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    a_list wrote: »
    Cmon 5 dude gets his props, but do we really have to make a list of more advanced rappers? True sun was ahead of his time, but we're talking 30 plus years if I cant name at least 20 then something is wrong with rap....

    Well I was just listening to Power 99 and there's no way you can tell me that today's rappers are more advanced
  • 5 Grand
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    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Nas
    Chino Xl
    Ras Kas
    Royce
    crooked I
    talib
    Em
    MOST of Wu Tang


    Gucci ( JK LOL )

    Out of everybody you listed I'll use Nas as an example. because I've heard most of his stuff. Nas raps faster (When I made this thread I was thinking somebody would mention Busta Rhymes) I concede that Nas raps faster and puts more words per bar. Butt as far as literary techniques, metaphors, similis, etc. Nas doesn't have anything on Melle Mel.

    Most of the other people you named have deeper discographies as rap was more difficult to record in the 80s. But those guys aren't more advanced than Mel and if they are, explain how.
  • a_list
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    a_list wrote: »
    Cmon 5 dude gets his props, but do we really have to make a list of more advanced rappers? True sun was ahead of his time, but we're talking 30 plus years if I cant name at least 20 then something is wrong with rap....

    Well I was just listening to Power 99 and there's no way you can tell me that today's rappers are more advanced

    Damn...I missed the {Modern} part....So what are we talking the last 5-10 years?
  • Busta Carmichael
    Busta Carmichael Members, Moderators Posts: 13,161 Regulator
    edited July 2014
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    www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hip_hop_musicians
  • macadonwoo
    macadonwoo Members Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    macadonwoo wrote: »
    Nas
    Chino Xl
    Ras Kas
    Royce
    crooked I
    talib
    Em
    MOST of Wu Tang


    Gucci ( JK LOL )

    Out of everybody you listed I'll use Nas as an example. because I've heard most of his stuff. Nas raps faster (When I made this thread I was thinking somebody would mention Busta Rhymes) I concede that Nas raps faster and puts more words per bar. Butt as far as literary techniques, metaphors, similis, etc. Nas doesn't have anything on Melle Mel.

    Most of the other people you named have deeper discographies as rap was more difficult to record in the 80s. But those guys aren't more advanced than Mel and if they are, explain how.


    Chino XL on the Wake Up Show: http://youtu.be/yOIUWzxRDGY
  • LUClEN
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    Shad K
    Lupe Fiasco
    Mac Lethal
  • The_Man
    The_Man Members Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • _Goldie_
    _Goldie_ Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 30,349 Regulator
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    My entire top 50

    Ill just name Pac , Nas and Big
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    are you a melle mel stan? I think that's a first
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    are you a melle mel stan? I think that's a first

    Why should I be making threads about Drake, Lil Wayne and Chief Keef?
  • waterproof
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    Salute to One of the Greatest Ever.

    To tell the truth hip hop been stagnated for a long time, The originality and innovative spirit is missing
  • _Lefty
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    Lupe fiasco is light years ahead of Melle Mel. LIGHT. YEARS.
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lupe fiasco is light years ahead of Melle Mel. LIGHT. YEARS.

    Can you elaborate?

    I heard his Food and Liquor album when it first came out but I haven't heard much else. What literary techniques does he use that make you say he's "Light Years" ahead of Grandmaster Melle Mel?
  • waterproof
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    are you a melle mel stan? I think that's a first

    This is the youth of today
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    are you a melle mel stan? I think that's a first

    Why should I be making threads about Drake, Lil Wayne and Chief Keef?
    did I say you should? I just asked why you were on the melle mel ? so much in the last couple days
  • DarthRozay
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    waterproof wrote: »
    are you a melle mel stan? I think that's a first

    This is the youth of today

    shut your life support ass up before someone pulls the plug
  • _Lefty
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Lupe fiasco is light years ahead of Melle Mel. LIGHT. YEARS.

    Can you elaborate?

    I heard his Food and Liquor album when it first came out but I haven't heard much else. What literary techniques does he use that make you say he's "Light Years" ahead of Grandmaster Melle Mel?

    Bruh, I respect Mel, he's nice, but he's dated. Nothin wrong with that, it's called evolution. Walkmans was the ? back in the G, You can still use one, but ? has evolved. You gotta understand that. But to keep it on subject, Melle Mel can't do this. The metaphors, the wordplay, the rhyme schemes. Lupe got these for days. If Melle Mel all the way black out he can't do this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDZyO-w9pQ
  • IceBergTaylor
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    Lmaoooo at Melle Mel being better than Lupe this ? here had one too many viagras ? ? up his old ass brain
  • Apoptosis
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    I hope you ain't serious about this...melle mel? Better than Lupe?? He's a legend, but he ain't better than Lupe. You musta had some bad tapioca old ? .
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Lupe fiasco is light years ahead of Melle Mel. LIGHT. YEARS.

    Can you elaborate?

    I heard his Food and Liquor album when it first came out but I haven't heard much else. What literary techniques does he use that make you say he's "Light Years" ahead of Grandmaster Melle Mel?

    Bruh, I respect Mel, he's nice, but he's dated. Nothin wrong with that, it's called evolution. Walkmans was the ? back in the G, You can still use one, but ? has evolved. You gotta understand that. But to keep it on subject, Melle Mel can't do this. The metaphors, the wordplay, the rhyme schemes. Lupe got these for days. If Melle Mel all the way black out he can't do this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDZyO-w9pQ

    That didn't impress me at all.
  • Apoptosis
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    But all jokes aside, there's no point in you trying to convince everyone about Mel. You grew up with him rapping so you already have a bias on his skills just like we grew up on other dudes so we got bias. Some people my age think Lil Wayne got the hottest bars, I don't agree but I won't be able to chage their mind.

    So even if it's true Lupe raps miles around old ass Mel, you'll continue to see him as better.
  • macadonwoo
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    YOU 53 and you still rapping ugh