Sexual Harassment and How Men Can Take Responsibility For Their Actions
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Nah...she wouldn't do that to me
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JerryfromJerz wrote: »Knives Amilli wrote: »JerryfromJerz wrote: »Knives Amilli wrote: »pissedoffnobody wrote: »When men start wandering out in shorts with their ? half hanging out and their shirts unbutton or tied together to show of their upper bodies and abs, then we can really get into this. Only time men get shirtless with shorts on is at the beach, at the park, at the pool, on the court or at the gym. I'm seeing men dressing up in their finest threads to show out for a night out, not wearing the skimpiest, tightest ? the can find, wearing shoes and make up to make them look taller and different from how they normally appear.
It's not the same game we're playing, women use their looks a lot more than men do because feminine wiles matter more, ain't no man getting served quicker at the bar by winking at the bartender and leaning forward further. Damn sure will have a girl roll up on him if he's swagged out talking about "I'm here with my girls and we're looking to party, what you doing tonight?" to get some free drinks for their table though.
....So basically what you're saying is..."Look at how she was dressed!! She was asking for it"
Women dressing provocatively doesn't justify being sexually objectified, demeaned, or disrespected.
I like watching porn and have several fav. female porn stars just like every other straight red blooded male, but its kinda creepy how we as men view real life women as "the sexual objects that are just asking for it!!" that the porn stars portray on camera....Naw fam....IDGAF if a women approaches me ass naked....we still going thru the proper motions of consent....
Do you know what provocatively means?
I know what it means.
And Women will dress like that to flaunt or maybe they want to arouse male attention...but thats not justification for MEN to treat women like tools or disrespectfully.
pro·voke
prəˈvōk/
verb
stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.
Purposely provoking an action then getting mad at the action you provoked doesn't make sense to me
And this is where the problem lies.
I do think women do wear or do certain things because they are going for a certain reaction. They want to be admired. Wanted. Pined after.
But wanting to feel wanted and attractive does not justify the sexual harassment and disrespect that a lot of women receive by men.
The very fact that a lot of men feel that whenever a woman is being sexual/attractive, she is actually wanting to be objectified is very telling about gender relations and our feelings about sex. -
yo what the ? are u talking about?
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the way I look at what if it was your mother getting this kinda of msg sent to her or you're Girl or wife than how would you like it would you be agreeing that its ok to say this kinda ? to women?
Respect a women because with out one you would never of been
she carried you for 9 mths
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don't get me wrong I love looking at women but respect them
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the way I look at what if it was your mother getting this kinda of msg sent to her or you're Girl or wife than how would you like it would you be agreeing that its ok to say this kinda ? to women?
Respect a women because with out one you would never of been
she carried you for 9 mths
so women impregnate themselves? -
Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
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don't get me wrong I love looking at women but respect them
Does the woman in you avi have your respect?
Does she know that she is in your avi?
Is it the woman you respect in yo avi or DAT ASS?
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yes she does
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no disrespect
but the obvious absence of female response, other than the TS tells me one thing...
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Already Home_17 wrote: »the way I look at what if it was your mother getting this kinda of msg sent to her or you're Girl or wife than how would you like it would you be agreeing that its ok to say this kinda ? to women?
Respect a women because with out one you would never of been
she carried you for 9 mths
so women impregnate themselves?
I knew some one would say this
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lawd, that 'respect' argument got derailed pretty fast
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Women love the attention
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Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
True.....
.....but common sense will not be tolerated on the IC. lol -
Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
Just because I don't see it doesn't mean it does not happen
My understanding is that it is not unheard of in Muslim countries, and typically the woman is stoned to death afterwards while the man is dapped up and rewarded with a goat -
Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
Just because I don't see it doesn't mean it does not happen
My understanding is that it is not unheard of in Muslim countries, and typically the woman is stoned to death afterwards while the man is dapped up and rewarded with a goat
How about here in the United States fam?
Oh.....
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Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
Just because I don't see it doesn't mean it does not happen
My understanding is that it is not unheard of in Muslim countries, and typically the woman is stoned to death afterwards while the man is dapped up and rewarded with a goat
Are we talking about some Muslim men punishing/mistreating their women OR any man sexually harassing a fully clothed Muslim woman? Me thinks you're referring to a different continent and/or topic broham. -
Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
Just because I don't see it doesn't mean it does not happen
My understanding is that it is not unheard of in Muslim countries, and typically the woman is stoned to death afterwards while the man is dapped up and rewarded with a goat
Are we talking about some Muslim men punishing/mistreating their women OR any man sexually harassing a fully clothed Muslim woman? Me thinks you're referring to a different continent and/or topic broham.
he aint a dumb dude bro...he knows...just being a contrarian....
I've NEVER witnessed/hear of a Muslim woman be sexually harrassed in any manner.
I went to a college with a lot of them too. Maybe...just maybe it had something to do with how they dress and carry themselves in public. -
Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
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@trillfate I do not need the assistance of other women within this thread to speak about the sexual harassing nature from men.
I am well-equipped intellectually to hold my own.
Good day, sir. -
Knives Amilli wrote: »JerryfromJerz wrote: »Knives Amilli wrote: »JerryfromJerz wrote: »Knives Amilli wrote: »pissedoffnobody wrote: »When men start wandering out in shorts with their ? half hanging out and their shirts unbutton or tied together to show of their upper bodies and abs, then we can really get into this. Only time men get shirtless with shorts on is at the beach, at the park, at the pool, on the court or at the gym. I'm seeing men dressing up in their finest threads to show out for a night out, not wearing the skimpiest, tightest ? the can find, wearing shoes and make up to make them look taller and different from how they normally appear.
It's not the same game we're playing, women use their looks a lot more than men do because feminine wiles matter more, ain't no man getting served quicker at the bar by winking at the bartender and leaning forward further. Damn sure will have a girl roll up on him if he's swagged out talking about "I'm here with my girls and we're looking to party, what you doing tonight?" to get some free drinks for their table though.
....So basically what you're saying is..."Look at how she was dressed!! She was asking for it"
Women dressing provocatively doesn't justify being sexually objectified, demeaned, or disrespected.
I like watching porn and have several fav. female porn stars just like every other straight red blooded male, but its kinda creepy how we as men view real life women as "the sexual objects that are just asking for it!!" that the porn stars portray on camera....Naw fam....IDGAF if a women approaches me ass naked....we still going thru the proper motions of consent....
Do you know what provocatively means?
I know what it means.
And Women will dress like that to flaunt or maybe they want to arouse male attention...but thats not justification for MEN to treat women like tools or disrespectfully.
pro·voke
prəˈvōk/
verb
stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.
Purposely provoking an action then getting mad at the action you provoked doesn't make sense to me
And this is where the problem lies.
I do think women do wear or do certain things because they are going for a certain reaction. They want to be admired. Wanted. Pined after.
But wanting to feel wanted and attractive does not justify the sexual harassment and disrespect that a lot of women receive by men.
The very fact that a lot of men feel that whenever a woman is being sexual/attractive, she is actually wanting to be objectified is very telling about gender relations and our feelings about sex.
i really cant with you people. I'm supposed to respect every woman even if she dresses like a ? ? foh
"A" does something purposely to elicit action. "B" responds with action. "A" offended at action she elicited. "U" capes.
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pissedoffnobody wrote: »pissedoffnobody wrote: »When men start wandering out in shorts with their ? half hanging out and their shirts unbutton or tied together to show of their upper bodies and abs, then we can really get into this. Only time men get shirtless with shorts on is at the beach, at the park, at the pool, on the court or at the gym. I'm seeing men dressing up in their finest threads to show out for a night out, not wearing the skimpiest, tightest ? the can find, wearing shoes and make up to make them look taller and different from how they normally appear.
It's not the same game we're playing, women use their looks a lot more than men do because feminine wiles matter more, ain't no man getting served quicker at the bar by winking at the bartender and leaning forward further. Damn sure will have a girl roll up on him if he's swagged out talking about "I'm here with my girls and we're looking to party, what you doing tonight?" to get some free drinks for their table though.
Women don't really act on their perverse thoughts like that. A half nekkid man walking around might garner some cat calls from women; A half nekkid woman might get ? .
So, all these female teachers ? their male students, committing statutory ? , what about them?
http://www.vocativ.com/underworld/crime/hard-truth-girl-guy-? /
People want to talk about equality? Women do ? men but men can't even press charges against women, only if another man has ? them. So, if we want to talk equality and sexual harrassment, how about women fighting for the right to be charged just like men rather than only able to press charges? Or is that the kind of equality that's not really wanted so only men can face ? and sexual harrassment charges?ale victims were actually excluded from the legal definition of ? until the Department of Justice updated it in 2012, 85 years after the fact. Even now, it only accounts for those men who were anally or ? ? by males. In other words, an ill-intentioned ? and a vulnerable orifice are imperative to a ? indictment. Similarly, the Oxford English Dictionary maintains that only “a man who commits ? ” can be called a ? . While quibbling over the semantics might seem petty, there are real implications, not only for victims, but also for the way statistics are influenced.
What? Lol
i agree the FBI's definition of ? which you are referring to is problematic for men AND women .... but to say men can't press charges of ? against women is a lie... a very small minority of states do use the FBIs definition of ? , however most as in 95% have amended their ? laws to make them gender neutral. under these statutes, women can be charged with ? men, or other women.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/05/woman-charged-with-? -man-bond-set-at-75k/
http://wreg.com/2014/06/24/memphis-woman-charged-with-aggravated-? /
http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2014/06/05/woman-arrested-? -charges-involving-three-young-boys/10010871/
just a few instances of women being charged with the ? of a man ( or boys)
Women especially ? women across the country are the few leading the charge to change the definition so that everyone will have protection under the law -
Let me ask yall a question.....
When's the last time you've seen a Muslim women fully covered be sexually harassed?
Oh....
Just because I don't see it doesn't mean it does not happen
My understanding is that it is not unheard of in Muslim countries, and typically the woman is stoned to death afterwards while the man is dapped up and rewarded with a goat
Are we talking about some Muslim men punishing/mistreating their women OR any man sexually harassing a fully clothed Muslim woman? Me thinks you're referring to a different continent and/or topic broham.
he aint a dumb dude bro...he knows...just being a contrarian....
I've NEVER witnessed/hear of a Muslim woman be sexually harrassed in any manner.
I went to a college with a lot of them too. Maybe...just maybe it had something to do with how they dress and carry themselves in public.
I never really thought about it until you mentioned it, but I can honestly say that I have never in my life witnessed it either. There are a shitload of Muslim women (fully clothed traditional garb) w/in a 50 block radius of where I work. I see them every day walking unscathed through areas where the thirstiest nigguhs dwell....lol. I also see a lot of Muslim women who have abandoned traditional garb & culture for a more "American-influenced" style of dress. There is a clear and obvious distinction between how men treat and interact w/ them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18dyguzBug0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
