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In regards to regular observation, they think the mention of race, calling upon someone unknown to you by a racial identifier is "racist"
For instance if you say something as mundane as oh its the black dude over there..
Alot of people dont know the difference of stereotypes and racist comments.
some stereotypical comments can be racist if they are rooted in racism obviously
But saying Asians are bad drivers isnt a racist comment
Just as saying someone looks Mexican
What makes comments racist is usually what the person says next.. when speaking of stereotypes
Everyone does this but I see this in white people especially in innocuous comments.. they'll say well that was racist with a little amused chuckle. That ? right there is just as bad because although its not racist.. they take it as a joke thinking what was said was racist
For instance if you say something as mundane as oh its the black dude over there..
Alot of people dont know the difference of stereotypes and racist comments.
some stereotypical comments can be racist if they are rooted in racism obviously
But saying Asians are bad drivers isnt a racist comment
Just as saying someone looks Mexican
What makes comments racist is usually what the person says next.. when speaking of stereotypes
Everyone does this but I see this in white people especially in innocuous comments.. they'll say well that was racist with a little amused chuckle. That ? right there is just as bad because although its not racist.. they take it as a joke thinking what was said was racist
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"Some people"
"Alot of people"
Just say these crackers b -
"Some people"
"Alot of people"
Just say these crackers b
Lol I changed the thread title
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“those karate chopping yellow ? over there!"
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Bigotry is the minor ? . It's a comment, a thought, an opinion. Can be based on a perceived stereotype.
Prejudice is just that, pre-judging. Can be based on an accepted stereotype.
Racism is the major ? . It effects people and their future generations. It has actual mechanisms, tools, and systems to push one race back, while allowing another race to run/race forward. -
White people love to play coy about black people's race when in the presence of black people, but they are not really coy when we are not around.
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playmaker88 wrote: »In regards to regular observation, they think the mention of race, calling upon someone unknown to you by a racial identifier is "racist"
For instance if you say something as mundane as oh its the black dude over there..
Alot of people dont know the difference of stereotypes and racist comments.
some stereotypical comments can be racist if they are rooted in racism obviously
But saying Asians are bad drivers isnt a racist comment
Just as saying someone looks Mexican
What makes comments racist is usually what the person says next.. when speaking of stereotypes
Everyone does this but I see this in white people especially in innocuous comments.. they'll say well that was racist with a little amused chuckle. That ? right there is just as bad because although its not racist.. they take it as a joke thinking what was said was racist
Why isn't the bolded racist? -
if i refer to someones race when describing their actions or behavior...
its racist. -
There's no objective measure of race
It's a highly subjective order of classification, and once someone starts classifying people in accordance to it they have racialized them
so how exactly is it not racist?
Seems you want to be able to racialize people without being called out on it -
Prejudice/Racism/Bigotry...technically all "different" terms but usually just categorized as racism.
There is overlap though
Most racism is prejudice and bigoted
but not all bigotry or prejudice is racist -
We'll racist and it has nothing to do with power. Fin.
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Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place. -
We'll racist and it has nothing to do with power. Fin.
If racism is completely separate to power then why are racialized groups typically revoked of theirs?
Does not make sense -
Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place.
And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...? -
Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place.
And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?
Their ain't levels to this ? IMO. Racism is racism is racism. ? is wrong thats it.
Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference. -
Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place.
And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?
Their ain't levels to this ? IMO. Racism is racism is racism. ? is wrong thats it.
Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.
There is a difference
but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups -
Is that what the liberals are tellling you, bruh?
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The comments, opinions, and thoughts "can be" pretty inconsequential.
It is the systematic industrialization of that hatred,prejudice and bigotry=racism
that has been so detrimental and counterproductive -
Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place.
And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?
Their ain't levels to this ? IMO. Racism is racism is racism. ? is wrong thats it.
Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.
There is a difference
but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups
My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is acism at play.
I never denied the bold. -
Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place.
And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?
Their ain't levels to this ? IMO. Racism is racism is racism. ? is wrong thats it.
Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.
There is a difference
but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups
My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.
I never denied the bold.
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That's what's observable when you look at history and see the trends between oppressor and oppressed
Presumably why voting rights was such a contentious issue in SA and the States -
Here in the United States
there has been a systematic industrialization of white supremacy
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White Supremacy is a myth.
That's what's observable when you look at history and see the trends between oppressor and oppressed
Presumably why voting rights was such a contentious issue in SA and the States
*Jay-Z's Voice* Uh Huh -
Here's what he is saying,
this is a post I made about the difference of a Al Sharpton calling another black person a "? " to emphasise a point and some like Donald Sterling showcasing his disdain of "a person of color"Not just Sharpton, but the ideal that ANY black person that calls another black person a "? " is a intolerant bigoted racist is beyond ridiculous.
With that
When has ANY black person in America has ever had the power and influence to symptomatically belittle, demonize,denigrate, disparage,marginalize and oppress a significantly large percentage of white people?
And in return have OTHER black people directly/indirectly benefit from it.....for countless years...countless generations?
NEVER.
A Donald Sterling has power and influence.
A Mark Cuban has power and influence.
An Al Sharpton DOES NOT have the power,influence nor wealth, to detrimentally effect/affect the life and livelihood of a significantly large percentage of white people
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Whats ? up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.
People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the ? which is more ? up because they really never cared in the first place.
And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?
Their ain't levels to this ? IMO. Racism is racism is racism. ? is wrong thats it.
Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.
There is a difference
but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups
My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.
I never denied the bold.
You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds
If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process. -
White Supremacy is a myth.
That's what's observable when you look at history and see the trends between oppressor and oppressed
Presumably why voting rights was such a contentious issue in SA and the States
*Jay-Z's Voice* Uh Huh
Are you serious with the bold?
