Black women are killed by the police, too--we just don't hear about it.

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Cunt_Lyfe
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edited December 2014 in For The Grown & Sexy
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The Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, a non-profit organization whose mission is to defend the human rights of black people, found that every 40 hours, a black man, woman, or child is killed by police, security guards, or self-appointed law enforcers. In fact, since the killing of Mike Brown, more than 14 black teens have been killed by the police, including 12-year-old Tamir Rice, a boy in Cleveland, Ohio who was murdered less than two seconds after police arrived at a playground to answer a 911 call related to a black child carrying a pellet gun. We know another Eric Garner is coming, and it is impossible to prepare for the onslaught of grief that will accompany the next traumatic injustice.

But one of the largest injustices is how little we collectively discuss the many women of color who are also killed by police. Take Aiyana Jones, 7, who was killed by a Detroit police officer as she slept on her father’s couch. Or Rekia Boyd, 22, whose life ended in Chicago when she was killed by a police officer. Or Yvette Smith, 48, who was unarmed when she was killed by a police officer in Texas. Or Pearlie Smith, 93, who was fatally shot in her home. Or Tarika Wilson, 26, whose one-year-old son was also injured when she was killed by a Ohio police officer. Or Tyisha Miller, 19, who was killed by a police officer in Los Angeles. Or Kathryn Johnson, 92, who was killed by a police officer in Atlanta. Or Gabriella Nevarez, 22, who was killed by a Sacramento police officer. Or Eleanor Bumpurs, 66, who was killed by a police officer in the Bronx. I could go on and on, but you still probably wouldn’t recognize their names.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/52433-police-? -black-women-all-the-time-too-we-just-dont-hear-about-it
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  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    No, don't.

    If this is going to be an important movement, the lives of Black women, Black ? and trans people should be just as important.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    I'd just like to say that before any other ? comes in here and implies this is a feminist tirade, remember that reading is fundamental. The article makes a good point, as other Black women involved in protests have discussed this with me.

    Also, even if you do hear about the murders of Aiyana Jones or Rekyia Boyd, there is no mass outcry to the extent of it sparking mass protests around the world. There's generally not the same sense of urgency, which should be changed.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    ? _Lyfe wrote: »
    No, don't.

    If this is going to be an important movement, the lives of Black women, Black ? and trans people should be just as important.

    That's why the slogan is BLACK LIVES MATTER

    Not just black men.

    Yes, the Black lives matter was created actually created by Black ? women.

    What the author is pointing out is that the murders of Black women have not incited as much anger from the community as it should, at least not until now.
  • dwade206
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    Yes, Black lives matter. Your beef is with mass media disregarding these stories.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    Yes, Black lives matter. Your beef is with mass media disregarding these stories.

    If she does not have a point, can you explain why the cops murdering Aiyana Jones in her sleep didn't spark mass outrage, even though it was in the media? The reason why the stories with Trayvon and Mike made serious headlines was because local community media and community pressure to do so.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Here's my problem with articles and viewpoints like this. What good are they? What purpose do they serve?

    Do black women just want attention and want to be part of the spotlight or do you want things to change for the better? If it's the latter, does it really matter who gets the attention as long as change is made? For example, if all this unrest leads to stricter regulations on the cops, black women would benefit from that too. So what difference does it make if Aiyana Jones' name never rang out as loudly as Michael Browns'? It seems like a lot of women understand that and work towards the change regardless of whether or not black women are getting the same attention. But there always seem to be those black women who want to derail the unity and drive present in order to get black women headlined too. Is that really productive?

    Also, the article kinda glosses over some important considerations. What happened to the police officer in all those cases? Were they all intentional slayings or was some of it collateral damage? Were there eye witnesses and video evidence? See it's not black males or even black people that determine which of these stories blows up. It's the white run media, and they pick and choose based on what's going to get the best ratings. It's not like those stories mentioned in the article aren't told. Hell, half those stories have been posted on here at some point. It's just that a lot of them don't have the angle the media can use to light a fire, so they fade away. The same thing happens with a lot of cases involving Black men.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    divide and conquer!

    Instead of automatically brushing Black women's concerns off as divide and conquer tactics, why not simply listen to our concerns and offer more solidarity? That's what being an ally is about, yes?
  • THIRDSUPREME
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    ? _Lyfe wrote: »
    divide and conquer!

    Instead of automatically brushing Black women's concerns off as divide and conquer tactics, why not simply listen to our concerns and offer more solidarity? That's what being an ally is about, yes?

    Because that ? is petty as ? .

    Eric Garner and Mike Brown are only 2 of what will be well over a hundred blacks unjustly murdered by police. Let's focus on the real problem instead of trying to create new ones.

  • dwade206
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    ? _Lyfe wrote: »
    dwade206 wrote: »
    Yes, Black lives matter. Your beef is with mass media disregarding these stories.

    If she does not have a point, can you explain why the cops murdering Aiyana Jones in her sleep didn't spark mass outrage, even though it was in the media? The reason why the stories with Trayvon and Mike made serious headlines was because local community media and community pressure to do so.

    I'm not saying she doesn't have a point. Again, your beef is with mass media. The fight has already picked up national attention. What's your objective exactly?
  • Will Munny
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    The Mike Brown stories get way more press because of the narrative they push. They are very controversial and people get to express their identity by picking a side. When that happens, it usually blows up.
  • taeboo
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    I get what she's trying to point out, but I think most of her beef should be with the media not black people.

    Most of coverage and discussion I've seen has been more focused on police and black males then both genders.
  • BEAM
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    ? _Lyfe wrote: »
    I'd just like to say that before any other ? comes in here and implies this is a feminist tirade, remember that reading is fundamental. The article makes a good point, as other Black women involved in protests have discussed this with me.

    Also, even if you do hear about the murders of Aiyana Jones or Rekyia Boyd, there is no mass outcry to the extent of it sparking mass protests around the world. There's generally not the same sense of urgency, which should be changed.

    The current outcry isn't differentiating between Black men and Black women tho; It's just that the mainstream stories feature Black men. But as it's been said, what came of this was that #BlackLivesMatter .

    No worries shorty, no one's devaluing / ignoring the lives of women/? /trans. We all in this together.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    Here's my problem with articles and viewpoints like this. What good are they? What purpose do they serve?

    Do black women just want attention and want to be part of the spotlight or do you want things to change for the better? If it's the latter, does it really matter who gets the attention as long as change is made? For example, if all this unrest leads to stricter regulations on the cops, black women would benefit from that too. So what difference does it make if Aiyana Jones' name never rang out as loudly as Michael Browns'? It seems like a lot of women understand that and work towards the change regardless of whether or not black women are getting the same attention. But there always seem to be those black women who want to derail the unity and drive present in order to get black women headlined too. Is that really productive?

    Also, the article kinda glosses over some important considerations. What happened to the police officer in all those cases? Were they all intentional slayings or was some of it collateral damage? Were there eye witnesses and video evidence? See it's not black males or even black people that determine which of these stories blows up. It's the white run media, and they pick and choose based on what's going to get the best ratings. It's not like those stories mentioned in the article aren't told. Hell, half those stories have been posted on here at some point. It's just that a lot of them don't have the angle the media can use to light a fire, so they fade away. The same thing happens with a lot of cases involving Black men.

    They serve as a conversation point for Black women involved in the movement and those who are not to see our community fight just as much for our lives as we do theirs. Especially ? and trans Black women. And we need Black men's help to do that.

    And yes, it is important that our stories are heard. There is a hierarchy of pain when someone who is of a specific gender has their murders silenced because we're supposed to move together as a people. For example, you have churches coming together to pray for our males. That isn't an extension of love to other people in the hood who are victims of police brutality at all.

    Again, you say it's the media's fault, but as I told someone else, Trayvon's case was ignored by the media until WE made sure that we kept reporting and marching for justice. We have to take responsibility for it.

    I don't think the point of the article was to go extensively into investigative research, either. Her Pont was just to bring attention to this. Criticism is not divide and conquer--if anything, it should bring more unity because we're finally discussing it.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    That ? is so true. It's kinda sad that black feminists don't see it. Since when did our community not care about black women? Name one achievement the community has made that black women have benefited from as much or more than black men. So if black women also reap the benefits from the work we all put in, what is there to argue about?
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    These conversations are hard to have because brothers get defensive and feel attacked. No one is attacking you.

    It's just her saying that in order for this to be successful, we need your help in order to really turn this into a movement that is really about something and not just lip service.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    And please, nobody don't let this thread deteriorate into a name calling thread. Thank you.
  • Cunt_Lyfe
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    the movement is already moving. get down or lay down.

    Exactly.

    Her point is show us that you have our back.