Crooked I: Eminem Didn't Belong on J. Cole's "Fire Squad
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Didn't listen but it's a cape
Even Eminem stated he wouldn't sold nearly as much as he has if he wasn't white and he has compared himself to Elvis in this fashion numerous of times.
Doesn't make Em a bad guy or terrible MC or wack or nothing but facts are facts
The color of his skin helped his success TREMENDOUSLY -
Cape...Cole not really dissing just telling the truh. Em is a good MC and he can spit, but that doesn't take away from the fact he bit off black hiphop culture.
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After Cole explained his thought process behind the line, it's definitely camping
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Couple years ago
CROOKED I: “I think the dude is an incredible lyricist, but if you’re a racist, you get no support. If we support a racist, we cutting our own throat. If he’s racist like that, he gotta fall to the side. I want to see him on TV publicly apologize to Black women.” -
Crooked I has a slight point; Em is a Hip-Hop purist, and does his best to preserve the culture the way he can. His shots at Iggy were evident of this.
With that said? This is a ? cape. Cole's point still stands because the fact of the matter still remains. Eminem is a conduit for the Caucasian siege attempt on Hip-Hop whether Em likes it or not. He opened the lane, he provided the breach in the stronghold / dam, and now we have a steady stream of white rappers pouring in. With that comes uneducated, unauthentic, white fans with uninformed opinions placing the people that look like them on a pedestal in a culture that is not theirs, but is dictated in part by them because of their numbers in society, and dollars.
The rule of thumb that white people don't seem to understand is, Hip-Hop is not Hip-Hop if it does not somehow directly reflect contemporary African American life or interest. It has to SOMEHOW tie back to ? in some way, whether your trying to preserve the fundamentals of the game, reflect the walks of life for black people, or push the black agenda. -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Couple years ago
CROOKED I: “I think the dude is an incredible lyricist, but if you’re a racist, you get no support. If we support a racist, we cutting our own throat. If he’s racist like that, he gotta fall to the side. I want to see him on TV publicly apologize to Black women.”
that's y I will never support crook again cuz he sold out playing a housenigga slave on the shady plantation 4 a paycheck callin that shady racist crackkka Marshall massah
suge predicted the future n 2000 wit the Marshall KKK mathers skit
http://youtu.be/ls0kG1TRK_w -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Couple years ago
CROOKED I: “I think the dude is an incredible lyricist, but if you’re a racist, you get no support. If we support a racist, we cutting our own throat. If he’s racist like that, he gotta fall to the side. I want to see him on TV publicly apologize to Black women.”
that's y I will never support crook again cuz he sold out playing a housenigga slave on the shady plantation 4 a paycheck callin that shady racist crackkka Marshall massah
suge predicted the future n 2000 wit the Marshall KKK mathers skithttp://youtu.be/ls0kG1TRK_w
Loooool never heard this.
He said N.W.Aids lmfao -
He's got a point, but if you can say that for Em, you can say it for Elvis too. People always bash Elvis, but don't seem to realize, Elvis was closer to someone like Eminem than he was to someone like Macklemore. Elvis got his style by hanging out at black clubs. Before he got his break he was staying with and working for black artists. Even when he got on, he always gave credit back to the people that helped him up and admitted his style came from black people. Now the people that ran his machine are a different story. They stole from black artists and sold Elvis as some kind of originator, but the man himself was never really like that. At least that's what people like James Brown and B.B. King say.
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People say it about Elvis alsoThe Lonious Monk wrote: »He's got a point, but if you can say that for Em, you can say it for Elvis too. People always bash Elvis, but don't seem to realize, Elvis was closer to someone like Eminem than he was to someone like Macklemore. Elvis got his style by hanging out at black clubs. Before he got his break he was staying with and working for black artists. Even when he got on, he always gave credit back to the people that helped him up and admitted his style came from black people. Now the people that ran his machine are a different story. They stole from black artists and sold Elvis as some kind of originator, but the man himself was never really like that. At least that's what people like James Brown and B.B. King say. -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Loooool never heard this.
He said N.W.Aids lmfao
dr ? lol....Simon was ahead of his time cuz zno made that skit come 2real life n 04 wit the marshall kkk mathers racist tapes every thing n the skit is happening n real life right before our eyes smh -
People say it about Elvis alsoThe Lonious Monk wrote: »He's got a point, but if you can say that for Em, you can say it for Elvis too. People always bash Elvis, but don't seem to realize, Elvis was closer to someone like Eminem than he was to someone like Macklemore. Elvis got his style by hanging out at black clubs. Before he got his break he was staying with and working for black artists. Even when he got on, he always gave credit back to the people that helped him up and admitted his style came from black people. Now the people that ran his machine are a different story. They stole from black artists and sold Elvis as some kind of originator, but the man himself was never really like that. At least that's what people like James Brown and B.B. King say.
That was my point. Everyone compares white rappers to Elvis. The implication is that they are all culture vultures. I get the point Crooked I is trying to make with Eminem, but if you consider Elvis a culture vulture, then Eminem is too because they are pretty much the same artist just in two different eras and genres of music.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »
That was my point. Everyone compares white rappers to Elvis. The implication is that they are all culture vultures. I get the point Crooked I is trying to make with Eminem, but if you consider Elvis a culture vulture, then Eminem is too because they are pretty much the same artist just in two different eras and genres of music.
feminem is the worse culture vulture between him& Elvis cuz Marshall got on the MIC & recorded himself rappin white supremacy dissin blk women.....i never heard Elvis on record sayin "I DONT LIKE THAT ? ? ....IM JUST HERE 2MAKE A BIGGER HIT" like that crackkka Marshall all while making a living off Blk culture/music -
Cant agree with Cole. Because without EM alot of Brothas wouldn'tve been successful or been able to make hits without his help. Wouldve made more sense if Cole said Vanilla Ice or Bieber imo, because unlike them Em actually came from the slums thus a product of his environment.
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damn i bet you any $ that MrCee757 is going to post on this topic
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Without Em theres no 50, Dre wouldn't have as many hits without producing Em albums, no obie trice, no D12, no collabs wit Jay, not to mention all the artists hes produced for
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sapp08_2001 wrote: »Without Em theres no 50, Dre wouldn't have as many hits without producing Em albums, no obie trice, no D12, no collabs wit Jay, not to mention all the artists hes produced for
Dog, none of that really takes away from Cole's point. Dre would not have as many hits from Em if Em wasn't white either. Think about it.
The success of those ? should not have had to ride on such a shallow point. Not to mention, there is no guarantee 50 wouldn't have had prospered. He was, after all heavily involved with Jam Master Jay before Em. I think it's suffice to say, he would have found a way. -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Couple years ago
CROOKED I: “I think the dude is an incredible lyricist, but if you’re a racist, you get no support. If we support a racist, we cutting our own throat. If he’s racist like that, he gotta fall to the side. I want to see him on TV publicly apologize to Black women.”
Never knew this step-n-fetch said that ? but regardless, why would anyone take Crooked I serious? This ? got a misspelled "Slaughterhouse tat on his arm
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sapp08_2001 wrote: »Cant agree with Cole. Because without EM alot of Brothas wouldn'tve been successful or been able to make hits without his help. Wouldve made more sense if Cole said Vanilla Ice or Bieber imo, because unlike them Em actually came from the slums thus a product of his environment.
You are out of your ? mind. You do realize that there was hip-hop long before eminem right? -
sapp08_2001 wrote: »Without Em theres no 50, Dre wouldn't have as many hits without producing Em albums, no obie trice, no D12, no collabs wit Jay, not to mention all the artists hes produced for
he explained his point in an interview
He was simply saying white people had gotten their foot in the door like they did with Jazz and Rock n Roll
Like somebody said, the rappers named are conduits for the mass of whites being exposed to and eventually ? the culture
and lol @ "the artists he's produced for"
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These ? a turn on their mama to protect their almighty Eminem.
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Yep. Leave Eminem out of that.
Did he get rich off of something created by black people? ... Sure he did ... But he carved out a completely new lane that other brothers followed and he shows respect to the culture and the history. -
disqus_nzlknyhgQR wrote: »Yep. Leave Eminem out of that.
Did he get rich off of something created by black people? ... Sure he did ... But he carved out a completely new lane that other brothers followed and he shows respect to the culture and the history.
What lane would that be? -
hip hop hasnt been exclusively black since the basement parties. regardless of race if u rep the culture well i give no ? .
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Why not? Cuz he ur fake ass friend? Gtfoh
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Multiple styles and personalities displayed in a single song like 'My Name Is'. It's not too much different than what Kendrick now does in songs like 'Swimming Pools'.Busta Carmichael wrote: »disqus_nzlknyhgQR wrote: »Yep. Leave Eminem out of that.
Did he get rich off of something created by black people? ... Sure he did ... But he carved out a completely new lane that other brothers followed and he shows respect to the culture and the history.
What lane would that be?
