Sony Execs Warned Not To Cast Denzel Washington In Big Flicks Because Black Leads ‘Don’t Play Well’
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BOSSExcellence wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
nah ? ..
yo subservient ass is supporting them and dont even know it..
how bout buildin.. havin yo own??
that ever cross ur mind??
Bruh... what? Stay on topic. What the producer said was misinformed and racist.
no it wasnt..
he's talkin about targeted demographics and maximizing profits..
but IM the one who needs "education in business"?!?! hahaha
yeh okay..
Lol at this ? idiot focus on being a fake internet ? because your thinking skills are woat.
From our perspective him making maximum profits without casting black people does not help us. -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
nah ? ..
yo subservient ass is supporting them and dont even know it..
how bout buildin.. havin yo own??
that ever cross ur mind??
Bruh... what? Stay on topic. What the producer said was misinformed and racist.
no it wasnt..
he's talkin about targeted demographics and maximizing profits..
but IM the one who needs "education in business"?!?! hahaha
yeh okay..
Lol at this ? idiot focus on being a fake internet ? because your thinking skills are woat.
From our perspective him making maximum profits without casting black people does not help us.
how bout helpin urself??
i know the idea os foreign to u..
and u wonder why people like u gets no respect. lol & smh -
ol "why wont the white man help us" ass ? ..
why should he be obligated??
for ? that never had ? yall sure do feel entitled to everything. smh -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »for ? that never had ? yall sure do feel entitled to everything. smh
you sound like a kracker -
BOSSExcellence wrote: »for ? that never had ? yall sure do feel entitled to everything. smh
you sound like a kracker
nah..
jus sound like a go getter..
a ? that reaps rewards cause he takes chamces makes sacrifices..
a do it by any means muthafucka..
somethin yall punch the clock ? will never understand..
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people that want equal representation in a society that benefits from their very existence (and always have) does not = entitled
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NothingButTheTruth wrote: »To me, this just seems like an acknowledgment of racism, not racism itself.
I don't get this train of thought. How is not hiring someone because of race, not racism?
Do they need to hang a 'whites only' sign on the casting call building for it to be racist? When does it start being racist?
Your argument would be good if everything were equal, and if movie investors had an infinite amount of money to invest, but this is not the case.
The amount of funds movie investors have to invest are limited, and all movies don't make the same profits. The kind of movie a person chooses to invest in determines their return on investment, and it makes perfect sense for an investor not to want to tie their money up in a project that is not going to give them the highest return on investment.
Even though it may be morally satisfying to some people to hire Denzel Washington without taken into account his economic potential in comparison to everybody else, it doesn't change the fact that there are other movies to invest in that make way more money than his movies do. -
people that want equal representation in a society that benefits from their very existence (and always have) doesnt not = entitled
if u wit a ? ..
and u givin ur all to said ? and she continuously treat u like ? ..
do u continue to ? wit her??
do u beg her to and plead wit her to treat u right?? to respect u??
i bet u do huh??
u cant live without that ? ..
NEWSFLASH.. that ? will never live u.. never respect u.. cause u dont love and respect ur damn self.. she knows u aint goin nowhere so change for what??
all of what i jus said probably went over u simpletons heads so this'll be my last post..
u ? have no hope.. -
Denzel washington can sell overseas.he grossed 191 million cmon now!!dude is a superstar just like these white big time actors.some of these big white actors arent selling tickets like Denzel and these people want to discredit this man's statue?cmon now!!
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man look...black people arent entitled if they want to continue to see Denzel star in films the ? is a proven box office star
and for all that pseudo ? speak
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damn though, if Denzel can't even get cast then who can? He's arguably the biggest and most known black actor there is. Will Smith might be the only one bigger than him.
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Bruhs,
Denzel is 59 years old. The only part he may be up for in the future is Bad Grandpa 2
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/? _Presents_Bad_Grandpa.jpg[/img] -
NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
If an employer acceded to customers' preferences like that that wouldn't necessarily make it racist. It would be wrong, yes, but not necessarily racist. -
Some people seem to be confusing Denzel's popularity and acting ability with economic achievement. For decades there have been multiple movies every year that have grossed over 500 million dollars, and Denzel has never had a movie past the 300 million mark.
Denzel gets consistent box office numbers, but his consistent numbers have never been high in comparison to all the other movies that Hollywood studios put out. -
A Talented One wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
If an employer acceded to customers' preferences like that that wouldn't necessarily make it racist. It would be wrong, yes, but not necessarily racist.
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NothingButTheTruth wrote: »To me, this just seems like an acknowledgment of racism, not racism itself.
I don't get this train of thought. How is not hiring someone because of race, not racism?
Do they need to hang a 'whites only' sign on the casting call building for it to be racist? When does it start being racist?
It's discrimination and it is wrong. But neither necessarily makes it racist. -
How about looking at the raw numbers and see where they are wrong.
http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross
The highest ranked film with a black lead that I found was #79 'I am Legend' (2007)- Will Smith ( not Denzel )
*Correction #43 'Independence Day' (1996) - Will Smith ( not denzel )
A lot of actors ( this may be a surprise ) care more about the movie than the revenue it generates, Denzel is one of those. He might not want to be in the next transformers movie and that is totally cool.
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BOSSExcellence wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
nah ? ..
yo subservient ass is supporting them and dont even know it..
how bout buildin.. havin yo own??
that ever cross ur mind??
Bruh... what? Stay on topic. What the producer said was misinformed and racist.
no it wasnt..
he's talkin about targeted demographics and maximizing profits..
but IM the one who needs "education in business"?!?! hahaha
yeh okay..
Lol at this ? idiot focus on being a fake internet ? because your thinking skills are woat.
From our perspective him making maximum profits without casting black people does not help us.
how bout helpin urself??
i know the idea os foreign to u..
and u wonder why people like u gets no respect. lol & smh
we are supposed to build our own economic and media infrastructure and also enjoy the mainstream benefits of society you ? idiot. -
A Talented One wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
If an employer acceded to customers' preferences like that that wouldn't necessarily make it racist. It would be wrong, yes, but not necessarily racist.
Whose preferences? The customers? If so, I disagree. The employer might just be concerned with making money and actually against the preferences of its customers. That would still be wrong, but not racist. -
Some people seem to be confusing Denzel's popularity and acting ability with economic achievement. For decades there have been multiple movies every year that I have grossed over 500 million dollars, and Denzel has never had a movie past the 300 million mark.
Denzel gets consistent box office numbers, but his consistent numbers have never been high in comparison to all the other movies that Hollywood studios put out.
Certian movie genres, do those type of numbers consistently. The super heroes alien action robot type flicks etc.
.Denzel never did those type of movies.
infact, if u do the reasearch, the genres Denzel do part take in, most of his movies do better than the average movies, in that paticular genre. -
A Talented One wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »To me, this just seems like an acknowledgment of racism, not racism itself.
I don't get this train of thought. How is not hiring someone because of race, not racism?
Do they need to hang a 'whites only' sign on the casting call building for it to be racist? When does it start being racist?
It's discrimination and it is wrong. But neither necessarily makes it racist.
WOW!! ...? wow
Really??
Yo imma leave this thread before I get heated
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Darth Sidious wrote: »Bruhs,
Denzel is 59 years old. The only part he may be up for in the future is Bad Grandpa 2
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/? _Presents_Bad_Grandpa.jpg[/img]
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A Talented One wrote: »A Talented One wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
If an employer acceded to customers' preferences like that that wouldn't necessarily make it racist. It would be wrong, yes, but not necessarily racist.
Whose preferences? The customers? If so, I disagree. The employer might just be concerned with making money and actually against the preferences of its customers. That would still be wrong, but not racist.
if the customers preferences are racist and the company sets rules based on said preferences then those rules are racist -
A Talented One wrote: »A Talented One wrote: »NothingButTheTruth wrote: »So for everyone saying this isn't racist, how about someone not hiring a young black man as a salesman because generally, "people are less comfortable around black men" and the sales will be lower? And there are millions of other examples I and others can come up with.
The conditioning is real. You're supporting them and don't even know it.
If an employer acceded to customers' preferences like that that wouldn't necessarily make it racist. It would be wrong, yes, but not necessarily racist.
Whose preferences? The customers? If so, I disagree. The employer might just be concerned with making money and actually against the preferences of its customers. That would still be wrong, but not racist.
if the customers preferences are racist and the company sets rules based on said preferences then those rules are racist
No. That would make the rules discriminatory, but not necessarily racist.
How would the rules become racist (as opposed to merely racially discriminatory)? -
A Talented One wrote: »Darth Sidious wrote: »Bruhs,
Denzel is 59 years old. The only part he may be up for in the future is Bad Grandpa 2
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/? _Presents_Bad_Grandpa.jpg[/img]
Lol, that stung a bit when I hit you with that didn't it?
It's okay, it's natural for a ? -made man like you to have feelings. Get in them!