When Will it End? 18yr Old Antonio Martin killed by Cop
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I don't believe he was pointing a ? gun at a cop. What Black kid do you know with all that's going on would raise a deadly weapon at a cop? What a crock of ? .
Chief Keef
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This is one of the most naive comments I've seen...these youngins don't give a ? lol
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »
After further looking at this video, the kid with the bookbag on the left is Antonio Martin. I really can't tell if he has anything in his hand but he did have something in his pocket walking in camera view. The cop in front has a flashlight in one hand and empty in the other. Antonio moves closer and a light goes off Martin's side then the witness runs. If Martin was not shooting why would the light go off on his side instead of from the 2nd cops side.
Either the cop out of the frame shot Martin or Martin did shoot first. The other witnesses were women pushing the stroller. I don't wanna take sides but something seems off. -
I always say ? these crakkkers but where's the other cameras?
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Turfaholic wrote: »but white men do draw on the police all the time and dont get shot
Dublin got the answers.......
http://youtu.be/Aeoca-VmpcM
Lol yeah if Dublin CA I bet they took his ass right over to Santa Rita.
You know that ? ain't gon work for black folks tho. It's gon be "drop your weapon" "I felt threatened" "shoot to ? " .
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? does keef have to do with this?
Common sense tells me that with Tamir Rice being shot, there would be a fear if being shot. As much as ? fear cops, pointing a gun at a pig doesn't make plausible sense.
Also, I've seen how cops lie to justify using force. I was at a protest and saw cops antagonize protesters, 5 of them jump a kid for nothing, then charge him with a felony so they could be seen as justified. So I have no problem believing they'd lie--it's naive to believe otherwise -
They really out here with these struggle cameras in 2015? I got better cameras than police departments in my home? Man them ? need to quit playing and turn on these damn cameras! I know that store got better video than that too.
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? does keef have to do with this?
Common sense tells me that with Tamir Rice being shot, there would be a fear if being shot. As much as ? fear cops, pointing a gun at a pig doesn't make plausible sense.
Also, I've seen how cops lie to justify using force. I was at a protest and saw cops antagonize protesters, 5 of them jump a kid for nothing, then charge him with a felony so they could be seen as justified. So I have no problem believing they'd lie--it's naive to believe otherwise
The justice system is built on lies so even when the rarely follow the correct protocols, it's hard to believe them. -
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Stevie Wonder selfie ass cameras -
? does keef have to do with this?
Common sense tells me that with Tamir Rice being shot, there would be a fear if being shot. As much as ? fear cops, pointing a gun at a pig doesn't make plausible sense.
Also, I've seen how cops lie to justify using force. I was at a protest and saw cops antagonize protesters, 5 of them jump a kid for nothing, then charge him with a felony so they could be seen as justified. So I have no problem believing they'd lie--it's naive to believe otherwise
Sometimes cops do ACTUALLY get shot tho..it happens
no cape. no cape. no cape.
cape no.
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Breezy_Kilroy wrote: »Seem like the cop was ready to shoot.
Look how dude steps back and that's when Antonio approaches the cop.
and sealed his fate........
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At first I was gonna say they could have rushed him. Then I got to the end of the video and that ? drew that gun like he was a muthafukkin Cowboy/Outlaw in a former life gotdamn that was a quick ass draw.Billy_Poncho wrote: »Dude from where I grew up who drew on a cop, it does happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlhM-HJ3U0o
Plus he was literally asking for it lol
As for this particular situation I dont trust anything police say. Like I put on FB, if he didnt have a gun he will by the time he gets to the coroner and he'll have gun metal traces on his hands and finger prints will be on the gun they put at the scene and all. -
BTW this is one of the problem with the BodyCams cops purposely turn them off and pretend they "forgot" to turn them on. So implementation needs to be improved. Failure to activate bodycam should result in immediate suspension without pay & desk duty until a review of your Excessive force complaints is completed.
This idiot could have avoided all kinds of questioning and controversy by simply saying, "everything's recorded...run the tape." So it just lets me know he's a crooked cop because if you're not a crooked cop you have no issue with turning that ? on. In fact you'd want it on 24/7. -
To echo that sentiment.
The police done ? their credibility up so much within the black community
even when ? should be a open & shut case we STILL question their actions...leaving us suspicious of any given incident
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so it looks like this will immediately erase any goodwill those two cops being murdered gained
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Bartholomew_Jenkins wrote: »
? does keef have to do with this?
Common sense tells me that with Tamir Rice being shot, there would be a fear if being shot. As much as ? fear cops, pointing a gun at a pig doesn't make plausible sense.
Also, I've seen how cops lie to justify using force. I was at a protest and saw cops antagonize protesters, 5 of them jump a kid for nothing, then charge him with a felony so they could be seen as justified. So I have no problem believing they'd lie--it's naive to believe otherwise
The justice system is built on lies so even when the rarely follow the correct protocols, it's hard to believe them.
Good point, it's why I can see why some are skeptical about what cops are saying in this case -
twitter is not a reliable source of information.Breezy_Kilroy wrote: »My mans on facebook said they put his body in back of a van instead of an ambulance.
How do you post tweets?
There was a twitter user who posted a Vine clip of people screaming about a body being loaded into a van.
The twitter post and the vine clip have been removed.
#https://t w i t t e r.com/ceesolano/status/547724551992672257#
(^^^Remove the spaces in the address to open in a new tab, it will read: "Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!")
https://twitter.com/ceesolano
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Found the clip:
Is it possible this was the moment the coroner took his body away?
1. In cases like these, I've found the legitimate twitter users to be more reliable than the MSM.
2. It's possible that the coroner is shown in the video taking away his body. Still doesn't explain why EMTs weren't called to the scene.
3. I posted an example on page 2 of this thread of an attempted robbery that happened at a gas station on the south side of Chicago in February of this year. The man who was nearly robbed happened to be an off-duty sheriff deputy. The individual he shot was 16. He called an ambulance after he shot the teen. Multiple cameras (near and far) caught the incident, and were immediately shown once obtained by local news. The camera footage released in the incident involving Antonio Martin comes from the cameras furthest away from the incident.
We do not know for sure if no ambulance was called, maybe he was dead and there was no need? couldn't one of the many people standing around have called one? all the information is not known, unless I missed it I haven't read everything.
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latimes.com/nation/la-na-berkeley-grandmother-20141224-story.htmlBerkeley suspect's grandmother: 'I want to see the gun in his hand'
The grandmother of the 18-year-old black man shot and killed by a white police officer in Berkeley, Mo., on Tuesday night was quite clear about how she felt about the shooting.
“I ain't thinking about Ferguson, ain't thinking about anything else," Margret Chandler, 65, of St. Louis, told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday. "I’m just thinking about my grandson. ... I ain't interested in what people are talking about. I want the facts."
And the only thing she wants to know is whether her grandson, Antonio Martin, who died outside a gas station near Ferguson, Mo., pointed a gun at a police officer, as officials have said.
“If he was in the wrong, I want to know he was in the wrong. I want to see the gun in his hand," Chandler told The Times. "I don't want them to tell me he had it. I want to see it. These police do some ? things. They just wait until nightfall to see some young black men and gun them down.”
Martin died in what police and city officials on Wednesday tentatively deemed a justified shooting, largely because of a loaded 9-millimeter handgun reported found at the scene and gas-station surveillance footage that shows Martin lifting up his arm at the unidentified officer.
The unidentified officer had a dash camera in his car and a body camera, but neither was activated, officials said. The gas-station footage released by police shows the encounter only from a distance, and police said they trimmed the footage to end at the moment before Martin was shot in order to spare his family the pain of seeing that.
Chandler made it clear that seeing her grandson being shot wasn't an issue, and that only the facts mattered.
"We want to see the whole thing," she said. "They can show it to us in private, or in the media, or whatever."
Chandler, who said she hadn't seen Martin in a while, described him as being interested in sports and making music videos. “When he was around me, he was quiet, because he knew I didn’t go for no foolishness," Chandler told The Times.
Chandler added: "I want to know if Antonio was in the wrong. If he was in the wrong, it’s all over. But if they can’t show me he's in the wrong, then something's wrong."
Police officials said Martin had already been in trouble during his young life. Since turning 17, he had been arrested on suspicion of assaults, armed robbery, armed criminal action and theft, according to St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar.
Belmar said the 9-millimeter handgun found at the gas station had its serial number filed off, raising the possibility it had been stolen. Missouri law, with a few exceptions for military members, does not allow residents younger than 19 to carry concealed handguns.
"This doesn't make any sense for them to ? my son like this," Toni Martin-Green told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch from her home near the University of Missouri-St. Louis. "I am trying to be calm."
Martin's father, Jerome Green, told the newspaper that Martin was the oldest of four siblings and took medication for being hyperactive.
"He was not a violent person, to our knowledge," Green told the Post-Dispatch. "Around us there weren't any pistols. It's hard to believe that." -
Looks like hes pointing something at the officer. in the other video i seen on CNN
Thats not how you hold.. ID or hotdogs... soooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfK5HcQrgOQ
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Lol @ who pulls out guns on cops?
Like 3 days ago some dude didnt ? 2 cops -
. . . My homie used to be a Cop in Houston, he told me they would hurry and call EMT's to the Scene regardless if they knew the victim was dead or not & then would say the Person died at the Hospital in order to prevent Riots & Uprisings like the one you see here .
So the cops in STL in general are Stupid ? when it comes to handling Deaths . -
nbcnews.com/news/us-news/crowd-protesting-antonio-martins-death-shut-down-highway-n274646Crowd Protesting Antonio Martin's Death Shut Down Highway
A small group of protesters twice shut down a highway near Berkeley, Missouri, a day after an 18-year-old was fatally shot by police after authorities said he pointed a 9mm handgun at the officer.
The group of about 70 people brought traffic on I-170 southbound to a halt after protesters entered it at about 7:30 p.m. local time (8:30 p.m. ET). The group later exited the highway. There was no reports of arrests. Protesters then reentered the highway in the northbound lanes about an hour later, NBC station KSDK reported.
The highway shut downs occurred after demonstrators gathered at the Berkeley gas station where Antonio Martin was fatally shot by a police officer late Tuesday. -
Witness #40 knows what really happened. Lets wait on her remarks
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Apparently ? are turning up in the hood where Martin got killed.. Throwing bottles @ the pigs & running off the lying ass media...
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A. It's possible he did not point a gun and the cops are on their ?
B. It's possible he did point a gun and got shot
C. It's possible this guy pulled out a phone with a camera with a flash activated (to record) held it up and got shot. But, that is an alternative speculation of mine only based on 1 angle of the release videos
http://youtu.be/0G3q3yPrKoU
