If Drake wants to become a legend, he needs a 5 star album...Can he do that

AggyAF wrote: »

for those that say Take Care is classic but jot hip hop are you saying its an r&b classic?

Sion wrote: »

He needs to set the bar creatively & IMO he hasn't done that yet. He does need that definitive classic or he's just dropping songs and freestyles at this point. Sooner or later when know what to expect it's going to get tiring and somebody else is going to come into the picture and the attention will shift.

If we using Jay-Z as a barometer even he did things no one did (Hardknock Life, Big Pimpin aka having UGK on a major single which gave him credibility, clothing lines and publicizing his business accomplishments, etc.) . Drake hasn't done anything major that no one has done yet. He also needs to get outside himself or he'll end up like 50 Cent (lack of progression as an artist). I've said this before, that goofy joke of the internet shtick is going to get old and that's going to be a hard title to shake off. ? are gonna forget that Drake can really spit and clown his ass when he come wit an album.

I do think it's still too early to tell where he's going to go but he does need that ground-breaking album to take him to the next tier or he's no different than Ja Rule, Ludacris, T.I., Fabolous, Fat Joe, etc. while those aren't bad careers per se, they're at the point where they could have been bigger if they stepped outside the box and ventured more creatively and made better decisions. Ja Rule could have been one of the GOATs if he just ignored 50 Cent.

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kingofkingz wrote: »

Drake needs to surpass weezy before he can focus on a 5 star album... like how kanye has surpassed jay

He sure got destroyed alot on WTT for him to surpass Jay

So your telling me that Kanye has not done enough to surpass the teacher or to at least match him?

Late Registration
The College Dropout
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

They both were lazy on that album. Most of the verses (exceptions: Murder To excellence, Why I love you, No Church in the wild) were coasted. Where exactly did Jay destroy Kanye on that album?

I'm too lazy to look up all the verses but everytime I listen to WTT it reminds me of how superior Jay is on the mic compared to Kanye. Thats not to ? on Kanye cause I love his music but in terms of lyrics, flow, delivery overall emceeing Jay in another world. But I could see how one could argue that his discography is not worse than Jays, I cant front on the albums he has under his belt. But Jay will always be the better rapper to me

As a rapper, Jay has always been superior. I take back my statement my friend. From an album to album standpoint, Jay and Manye stand toe and toe. Jay is revered for his lyricism and Kanye was always held to a high standard with production. Again, you win.

Sion wrote: »

AggyAF wrote: »

for those that say Take Care is classic but jot hip hop are you saying its an r&b classic?

This depends now on time.... it's definitely his best piece of work (objectively) and it really took what Kanye did w/ 808s and took it to a higher level. To the younger generation I get why it'd be deemed a "classic" but I feel that it's still too early to say. Definitely marked a time in music. The question tho is who we give props to ? Kanye or Drake ? Rule 3:36 & Pain Is Love were good albums too but how was it diff't than LL's G.O.A.T or 10 ?? Look how Ja's albums aged.... Drake definitely has the potential to become a G.O.A.T but time will tell.

The jury is still out on Take Care. Drake is still very young but he still has to prove himself as a musician overall, he's definitely proven himself as a rapper. At this point only Drake can get in his own way. Feeling bigger than the competition is not a good way to go, while he can use sales as a reason to go at Jay & avoid Kendrick, time has always shown that sales wane & hype dies down but cohesiveness & high quality music stand the tests of time.